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WoO format sucks. Sweet did not have to make a competitive pass all night. And Johnny Gibson said this format would make for better racing. 

Save your money & stay home tonight. Knoxville regular weekly shows are way better than this WoO crap.

Ha ha, Now you sound like the Pa Posse fans when the Outlaws were at Williams Grove a few weeks ago. Over the course of the long season, the current format has a way of working out....last night, just like a fews weeks ago, it didn't.

No, I don't care if a Knoxville regular wins or not. Would like to see some passing however. Does me no good if it "works out" when they are 5 states away.

They claim to be "the greatest show on dirt", they should have a format that gives them a chance to live up to that claim every race night.

You prefer a rule where they pull a spark plug wire off any car starting on the front row to gauranty passing.  You feel in  no way can the the fastest car start up front and stay there?   You want restrictor plates so every car is equal and running in a big pack so we all sit on the front of our seats waiting for "The Big One".  You want to make the fastest cars start in the back so they is penalized for getting the qualifying setup right and running a faster lap and doing well in his heat race and doing well in the dash.  Maybe you want the fastest cars to start in the back so we can have hundreds of threads about Donny Shatz sandbagging in qualifying so he can start up front.  You want it like the good ol days when every fast driver we voted into the Hall of Fame had to start last and with one hand tied behind is back.  You want it like when Karl Kinser's cars were never allowed to start on the front row at any Outlaw race.  You want to take away any Knoxville win away from any driver that won from the front row, because that would be embarrassing to count those in your win totals.  I agree with you, now let's got to the Cafeteria and eat our Jello because we are too immature and dangerous to be trusted with solid food..

You're right.....it sucks! When close to 90% of all races run by the WoO, heats and Features are won from the front row, it's a format that sucks. Of course you'll need to suffer through some senseless posts in response to yours but oh well. Of course Gibson is going to defend the format and the series......thay pay him! The format is designed to give the WoO's big teams the advantage, so they can haul out the majority of the money. It's a protect your own format. Truth is, the big teams have the means and equipment to overcome any track condition or qualifying slot to set the fastest times and then start up front. By far the best racing is found on the All Star series. Considerably more racing and passing with that format. Especially in the heat races. And the best teams still win most of the Feature races, which is always going to be the case. But it does seem as though a win on the All Star Circuit is more readily earned during the race. 

You sure claim "I want" a lot of things I never said. And I cannot find any mention of restrictor plates anywhere in my post. Seems inverts work real well at the Nationals. Inverting 4 and the top 2 finishers make the dash could make for better heats. Starting Schatz, Gravel, Sweet, etc on the front row in clean air does make it very hard for anyone to pass them.

And I love the phrase you used, " so they is penalized". Are you 8?

 You don't want to penalize the fast cars with inverts but it's okay to penalize the fans with boring races. Ok

  Knoxville regular show heat races serve no purpose now that they can't get enough cars for a B main.

It's almost retarded they have them. How about 2 A mains instead.  Straight up and fully inverted. I feel stupid watching heats where you don't have to race.

 Or ther could skip qualifying and auction starting spots to the team's. 

I is many more than 8, but didn't proof read.  I iwll be more carful.

I agree dropping the heat invert was bad for the spectators enjoyment.  You are 100% right on that.    The practice of inverting 4 works, and I could see taking it one step farther to invert 6.  Top four to main. top two to dash, remainder to B on time.  You will see some strong heat races and mixed up main event lineups like we get in USAC and ASCS.  Way more stressfull for the teams, but better for the fans, and therefore the sport overall. 

I doubt that will ever happen in WoO rules, as I'm sure over the winter behind closed doors, the WoO organization along with the owners voted the fast cars to the front of heats, knowing that was their best chance for a good finish all night long, and all year long.  I like running with the Outlaws when they come to town and following the finishes and videos the rest of the year, but even back to Ted Johnson, the Outlaws made rules to best protect the regulars.  We were called on our top wing design back at Ascot, it met the rules and we ran it, but the WoO rules were different the following year. There will always be several locals in the big markets that qaulify up front and get a podium here and there, but week in and week out, in places like BF Egypt, they know they will always be racing amongst themselves at the front.  Follow the $$.

Actually knoxville's format awards points for TT and heats to determine who makes the A and who's in the top 8 for the invert draw so, yes, the heats at Knoxville do have a purpose.

Lets look at Gator Motorplex in Texas their were only 28 cars, 24 in the A and like I said 16 Outlaws and not all made the A. 

Lets see who was in the dash and started the race up front : Craftsman Club Dash (8 Laps) - 1. 7S-Jason Sides [3]; 2. 4K-Kasey Kahne [1]; 3. 4-Paul McMahan [2]; 4. 15-Donny Schatz [5]; 5. 49-Brad Sweet [6]; 6. 93-Sheldon Haudenschild [4]

Feature (40 Laps) - 1. 5-David Gravel [10][$10,000]; 2. 4-Paul McMahan [3][$5,500]; 3. 7S-Jason Sides [1][$3,200]; 4. 15-Donny Schatz [4][$2,800]; 5. 41-Jason Johnson [8][$2,500]; 6. 17-Joey Saldana [15][$2,300]; 7. 2X-Parker Price-Miller [11][$2,200]; 8. 99-Brady Bacon [14][$2,100]; 9. 2-Shane Stewart [19][$2,050]; 10. 1S-Logan Schuchart [22][$2,000]; 11. 19-Brent Marks [12][$1,500]; 12. 11K-Kraig Kinser [18][$1,200]; 13. 67-Christopher Bell [21][$1,100]; 14. 82-Cap Henry [17][$1,050]; 15. 9-Daryn Pittman [9][$1,000]; 16. 84-Scott Bogucki [7][$900]; 17. W20-Greg Wilson [20][$800]; 18. 49-Brad Sweet [5][$800]; 19. 93-Sheldon Haudenschild [6][$800]; 20. 4K-Kasey Kahne [2][$800]; 21. 87-Aaron Reutzel [13][$800]; 22. 17G-Dustin Gates [23][$800]; 23. 33-Danny Lasoski [16][$800]; 24. 2C-Wayne Johnson [24][$800]; Lap Leaders:Jason Sides 1-13, Paul McMahan 14-29, David Gravel 30-40; KSE Hard Charger Award: 1S-Logan Schuchart[+12]

Qualifying - 1. 49-Brad Sweet, 11.479; 2. 15-Donny Schatz, 11.517; 3. 93-Sheldon Haudenschild, 11.53; 4. 7S-Jason Sides, 11.573; 5. 4-Paul McMahan, 11.618; 6. 4K-Kasey Kahne, 11.631; 7. 87-Aaron Reutzel, 11.651; 8. 41-Jason Johnson, 11.661; 9. 9-Daryn Pittman, 11.663; 10. 84-Scott Bogucki, 11.681; 11. 82-Cap Henry, 11.687; 12. 19-Brent Marks, 11.773; 13. 5-David Gravel, 11.805; 14. 2X-Parker Price-Miller, 11.838; 15. 17-Joey Saldana, 11.854; 16. 33-Danny Lasoski, 11.93; 17. 99-Brady Bacon, 11.947; 18. 11K-Kraig Kinser, 11.991; 19. W20-Greg Wilson, 12.027; 20. 2-Shane Stewart, 12.044; 21. 17G-Dustin Gates, 12.054; 22. 2C-Wayne Johnson, 12.081; 23. 67-Christopher Bell, 12.106; 24. 1A-Jacob Allen, 12.163; 25. 99T-Skylar Gee, 12.385; 26. 1S-Logan Schuchart, 12.385; 27. 88-Scottie McDonald, 12.672; 28. 13-Clyde Knipp, 12.69

of the top 10 finishers in the A main only 3 of them were in the dash all other 6 drivers weren't the quick qualifiers, heat winners or in the dash. Looks to me as they weren't the ones to start up front but the ones who seemed to pass cars, gravel qualified 13 started 10 and finished first, Johnson timed 8th not in the dash started 8th finished 5th, Saldana qualified 15th was not in the dash and finished 6th, shane s qualified 20th not in the dash and finishes 9th, quick guy sweet times 1st finished 18th, Sheldon 3rd quick in dash finishes 19th

Johnny Gibson will defend the format, cuz he admittedly is the one who came up with the format.   I say the format is absolutely garbage, and i also am Not a huge fan of provisionals. 

On the subject of provisionals I thought it used to be if an outlaw got a provisional then a local nonoutlaw got a provisional? Sheldon made it through used of a provisional and they started 25 cars. Curious why Selvage wasn't next man up or Kerry Madsen if it's based on points at the local track.