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egras
April 13, 2017 at 11:57:35 PM
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10 days ago, everyone was speaking of sprint car (or, more to the point WOO) armageddon.  Donny was winning at a pace never before seen in the history of the world.  (Even though it had been seen at an even higher level for 20+ years before)

I've been in awe of what Donny has been able to accomplish the last 10 years.  However, in the here and now----there is a new sheriff in town.  

Congrats Mr. Gravel!!!!!




meatbag
April 14, 2017 at 01:59:13 AM
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wait til they get on the dry/slick bigger tracks, it will all go back to normal.

the tighter bullrings that hold good moisture keep the younger guys fighting with him 


do it in the dirt

Scoanut
April 14, 2017 at 02:12:34 AM
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Plus you can be a second slower on a short track and race all night with that faster car I'm no schatz fan but it will go back to him winning all the time again



maddog53
April 14, 2017 at 08:13:23 AM
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Sarge, here is the annual Blackhawk's in the playoffs comment........Boring ass game last night.  4 losses in a row going back into the regular season.  They had better start getting something back.........That is all.......................



GTigers55
April 14, 2017 at 08:17:39 AM
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Gravel will be the next great one but we'll see if it happens this year or later. I'd imagine later I think Donny and team have been toying around a bit with setups maybe. Also, keep in mind how much of a lead brad sweet had in points at this time last year. Guess who won the championship.



egras
April 14, 2017 at 06:51:58 PM
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Posted By: meatbag on April 14 2017 at 01:59:13 AM

wait til they get on the dry/slick bigger tracks, it will all go back to normal.

the tighter bullrings that hold good moisture keep the younger guys fighting with him 



Gravel had 9 wins last year.  1 of them came before May 14th.  (for those keeping score, that's a month from now)

He is way ahead of where he was last season.  I expect him to challenge the 15 all year.  



minthess
April 14, 2017 at 08:29:24 PM
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TSR 410 Ford parts probably exist by now.  Just the evil spirit of such uniqueness is already killing him.


Of ALL hands-off WoO sprint car owners in history, 
only Smoke (maybe the best racer ever) has had the 
success Luna's Ford had and anything similar to it is 
outlawed! Hagerstown's Mopar powered track record is 
18 years old. Are we seeing the best?

saphead
April 15, 2017 at 08:28:46 AM
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Another poor showing from the 15 last night. I hope the Ford Performance factory is working 24/7 to get TSR what they need or they may not recover in 17'.



Dryslick Willie
April 15, 2017 at 08:37:31 AM
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Posted By: saphead on April 15 2017 at 08:28:46 AM

Another poor showing from the 15 last night. I hope the Ford Performance factory is working 24/7 to get TSR what they need or they may not recover in 17'.



LMAO...good one!



Pedro UK
April 15, 2017 at 04:43:27 PM
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How short the memory gets. Was thinking must be a long time since the15 went 8 features without a win. So looked back and realised it was only last year when it was 11 events. From afar, its certainly a good and varied period of the calendar to follow the WoO.

Hi bye the way, first post and all that.



madsen
April 15, 2017 at 11:02:27 PM
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I was told just last night by a friend of Donny's that they still have the Shaver Chevy in the #15 car.  I'm positive he wasn't wrong.  And 8 races, that's not much to figure a season on.  Once the Ford is ready, guarantee you crew chiefs that take a look at her will say the same thing Napscar crewchiefs said about the tooyota--a Chevy knockoff with a different name on the valve covers. 


Today's Europe died during Hitler's deathcamps. If not 
for WWII, Jewish people in Europe would number 30 
million-all making important contributions. Instead 
Europe has 30 million people of another persuasion 
trying to destroy Europe. We are next.

egras
April 16, 2017 at 09:53:43 AM
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Donny is far from done and will likely win titles to come for years.  However, the point to the original post?  2 weeks ago the talk on the forum is that he would not be challenged and he was doing something never seen before which would be bad for sprint car racing.  I thought it was too small of a sample size of races to make that statement and this type of dominance HAD been seen before and in a much greater scope. 

If I was held at gunpoint and forced to gamble my life-savings on a driver to win, I would have to bet on Donny.  However, I didn't think 2 weeks ago he would run away with the title unchallenged and that is exactly what we are seeing.  Could it change?  Sure.  But, right now, Donny is not keeping up with the 5 car just like nobody was keeping up with the 15 for the first month of the season. 

As far as Donny's dominance on the big, slick tracks?  Sounds right.  Thing is, they don't run from here on out on big, slick racetracks.  Small, tacky bullrings are still on the schedule so he will still be challenged.

 

All of that being said, anyone surprised Shane Stewart is so far off the grid right now? 



dsc1600
April 16, 2017 at 10:01:46 AM
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People who like to bash the WoO like to point to Schatz's dominance and call it a one man show. It's far from that, however I'm sure the Schatz team will be more motivated than ever. Lot of bullrings coming up, but once Mid May hits, I'm sure he'll be dominant again.



egras
April 16, 2017 at 10:40:17 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on April 16 2017 at 10:01:46 AM

People who like to bash the WoO like to point to Schatz's dominance and call it a one man show. It's far from that, however I'm sure the Schatz team will be more motivated than ever. Lot of bullrings coming up, but once Mid May hits, I'm sure he'll be dominant again.



Maybe----but at least someone has him thinking right now.  And, let's not forget--8 of the #5 car's 9 wins came after mid-May last year.  



alum.427
April 16, 2017 at 11:26:02 AM
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Why are people thinking the Ford is new to sprint car racing ?  Dave Blaney had 1 in the 10 car for years. I'm pretty sure he won a WoO title with the Ford between the rails. I understand it was years ago, but, in theory sprint car motors have not changed as SLM motors have. Remember they're pulling 1400 # compared to 2400. Again if memory serves me correctly Shaver built those fords. 



revjimk
April 16, 2017 at 11:48:25 AM
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Yea, Gravel is actually within striking distance of Schatz in terms of points. Very impressive

However, in the mere 7 years I've been following sprints, Donnie has a tendency to "run the table" after Knoxville Nats, dosn't he?

At least Gravel is putting up a challenge....



Johnny Utah
April 16, 2017 at 01:03:19 PM
Joined: 07/15/2014
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Posted By: alum.427 on April 16 2017 at 11:26:02 AM

Why are people thinking the Ford is new to sprint car racing ?  Dave Blaney had 1 in the 10 car for years. I'm pretty sure he won a WoO title with the Ford between the rails. I understand it was years ago, but, in theory sprint car motors have not changed as SLM motors have. Remember they're pulling 1400 # compared to 2400. Again if memory serves me correctly Shaver built those fords. 



Trust me, we here at Hoseheads are all aware of Fords in 410s and every other goddamn thing associated with them. Have you ever seen a minthess post?? 

His average post on this website makes me want to stab myself in the eyes and ears with a rusted awl.



Dryslick Willie
April 16, 2017 at 01:33:23 PM
Joined: 12/17/2009
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Schatz will get hot as the weather does... For the next week he may struggle.    Next Friday they are at West Memphis.   The last time they were there Tim Kaeding won and was just about to lap Donny when the feature ended.   



GTigers55
April 16, 2017 at 03:43:05 PM
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Posted By: egras on April 16 2017 at 09:53:43 AM

Donny is far from done and will likely win titles to come for years.  However, the point to the original post?  2 weeks ago the talk on the forum is that he would not be challenged and he was doing something never seen before which would be bad for sprint car racing.  I thought it was too small of a sample size of races to make that statement and this type of dominance HAD been seen before and in a much greater scope. 

If I was held at gunpoint and forced to gamble my life-savings on a driver to win, I would have to bet on Donny.  However, I didn't think 2 weeks ago he would run away with the title unchallenged and that is exactly what we are seeing.  Could it change?  Sure.  But, right now, Donny is not keeping up with the 5 car just like nobody was keeping up with the 15 for the first month of the season. 

As far as Donny's dominance on the big, slick tracks?  Sounds right.  Thing is, they don't run from here on out on big, slick racetracks.  Small, tacky bullrings are still on the schedule so he will still be challenged.

 

All of that being said, anyone surprised Shane Stewart is so far off the grid right now? 



Regarding the Shane Stewart bit. He's had a really rough year so far. Shane had a few races last year where he slipped up and spun/wrecked/got caught up in a wreck but this year the frequency of that seems to be much higher. He's still certauinly fast and one of the better drivers on the tour, just can't let the mishaps get in his head.

On a different note, Jason Sides is having a pretty good year for himself. He isn't all that high in points (11th) but he's seemed to be more towards the front this year than I remember.



egras
April 16, 2017 at 06:28:48 PM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on April 16 2017 at 03:43:05 PM

Regarding the Shane Stewart bit. He's had a really rough year so far. Shane had a few races last year where he slipped up and spun/wrecked/got caught up in a wreck but this year the frequency of that seems to be much higher. He's still certauinly fast and one of the better drivers on the tour, just can't let the mishaps get in his head.

On a different note, Jason Sides is having a pretty good year for himself. He isn't all that high in points (11th) but he's seemed to be more towards the front this year than I remember.



Sides does seem to be running up front over the last handful of races, that is for sure!





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