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Topic: TDN Releases Pos. 11-15 in the National Media Sprint Car Top 40 Countdown Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Tyler Beichner
December 04, 2016 at 07:30:32 PM
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TDN Releases Pos. 11-15 in the National Media Sprint Car Top 40 Countdown




revjimk
December 05, 2016 at 01:12:12 AM
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DeWease 13th? Jason Johnson 15th? I'm waiting to see 12 guys who are better, besides Schatz, Hodnett & 1 or 2 others...



Tyler Beichner
December 05, 2016 at 08:35:08 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 05 2016 at 01:12:12 AM

DeWease 13th? Jason Johnson 15th? I'm waiting to see 12 guys who are better, besides Schatz, Hodnett & 1 or 2 others...



It takes an entire season to be at the top. I'm in no way disagreeing that Lance is up there, but the points are based on how they were ranked in our Weekly Sprint Polls. When he takes a couple of weeks off, he drops down and earns less points. Similar with Jason Johnson, who wasn't getting onto many of the ballots until late July/August




HoldenCaulfield
December 05, 2016 at 05:25:55 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 05 2016 at 01:12:12 AM

DeWease 13th? Jason Johnson 15th? I'm waiting to see 12 guys who are better, besides Schatz, Hodnett & 1 or 2 others...



Agree, Rico should be higher too. Big wins against stout competition should trump being out there every week. Like in baseball, the batting champ isn't the guy with the most AB's. It's the guy with the highest average.

 


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revjimk
December 06, 2016 at 05:58:12 PM
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Posted By: Tyler Beichner on December 05 2016 at 08:35:08 AM

It takes an entire season to be at the top. I'm in no way disagreeing that Lance is up there, but the points are based on how they were ranked in our Weekly Sprint Polls. When he takes a couple of weeks off, he drops down and earns less points. Similar with Jason Johnson, who wasn't getting onto many of the ballots until late July/August



So you're just adding up weekly totals? I guess thats one way to do it, but seems pretty mechanical to me, misses the big picture. Shane Stewart in the Top 5 with 2 wins??? Lance won 10 out of what, 21?

Ratings are ratings, I guess it keeps us occupied in Silly season....



dsc1600
December 06, 2016 at 07:27:18 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 06 2016 at 05:58:12 PM

So you're just adding up weekly totals? I guess thats one way to do it, but seems pretty mechanical to me, misses the big picture. Shane Stewart in the Top 5 with 2 wins??? Lance won 10 out of what, 21?

Ratings are ratings, I guess it keeps us occupied in Silly season....



2 wins? Stewart had 8 outlaw wins, a winter heat title and the cappy classic. 




Tyler Beichner
December 06, 2016 at 10:20:13 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on December 06 2016 at 07:27:18 PM

2 wins? Stewart had 8 outlaw wins, a winter heat title and the cappy classic. 



I actually had 12 wins based on Sprint Source. His official site just links to the WoO schedule where he had 8.

 

But yes it did say 2, not 12. Hell of a time for a typo. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.



Tyler Beichner
December 06, 2016 at 10:21:22 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 06 2016 at 05:58:12 PM

So you're just adding up weekly totals? I guess thats one way to do it, but seems pretty mechanical to me, misses the big picture. Shane Stewart in the Top 5 with 2 wins??? Lance won 10 out of what, 21?

Ratings are ratings, I guess it keeps us occupied in Silly season....



Adding up weekly totals is the only way I could think of that weighed races early in the year the same as races late in the year. I'll continue to look for ways to improve this poll, and I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks for the feedback.



revjimk
December 06, 2016 at 11:50:45 PM
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Posted By: Tyler Beichner on December 06 2016 at 10:21:22 PM

Adding up weekly totals is the only way I could think of that weighed races early in the year the same as races late in the year. I'll continue to look for ways to improve this poll, and I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks for the feedback.



Soitenly welcome. Thanks for having an open mind...

Ratings are just an abstraction anyway, each race is different

 




revjimk
December 06, 2016 at 11:52:06 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on December 06 2016 at 07:27:18 PM

2 wins? Stewart had 8 outlaw wins, a winter heat title and the cappy classic. 



Oops.... I was going by stats printed on his poll

Now it makes more sense...



HoldenCaulfield
December 07, 2016 at 04:41:52 PM
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Guess 2 wins and an all-star championship carries more clout than 2 wins that include the Knoxville Nats and World finals? Lasoski 7 wins - 5 of which were weekly Knoxville shows(other 2 nsl) is better than drivers who won more times and bigger races(WOO and ASCoC) in less starts, hmmm. That wasn't even good enough to keep his ride.
 


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