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http://dirtracingreport.com/racers-seek-millions-faulty-disqualifications/

I know this is a late model story but figured a lot of you might find this to be an interesting article.

Ohio's continuing problem with weights and measures....the only way you can drive a half mile lap at Eldora is to mow the grass around the perimeter.

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Saw this today also,its going to get interesting 

Yet another reason to dislike Blooquust.

There isn't anything to like or dislike here.  These guys race for a living and his ability to put food on the table for their family has been impacted terribly I would imagine.  Additionally I'm certain the future of their ability to provide for their families is most certainly in question due to the negative impact on their reputation.  Know any corporate sponsors that are willing to sponsor a "cheater".  Only folks that can get away with that is NASCAR, and even then there is only so much.   

There isn't anything about this to like or dislike.  If Eldora and the World Racing Group fucked up then they need to pay up, every single red cent they are owed.  This isn't about racing, this is about their families.  

My only concern is if this indeed is true and the defendents are ruled against then how would this impact the WRG and Eldora?  Would they in turn turn around and file against the lab?  Would their insurance cover this?

What a mess. 

I don't care if the scales were 200lbs off, everyone weighed on the same scale and only a couple came up light. As long as all weigh on the same scale the playing field is equal.

If the scale gave a consistent reading every time, then you may have a point. But the article says the scale gave readings from i think 15 to 51 lbs light over six different tests. So even if someone used the track scale to check their car ahead of time, it could have given a different reading at a later time even if the car was the same weight as before.

That seems to be the main problem, that the scale would not even repeat to itself.

Also then you didn't address the isdue of the tires that were found to be legal after they were ruled illegal.

to indy and beyond!!

Additionally what if the teams set the car up on their own scales which they had validated and verified?  What reason would they have to use the track scale?  A set of portable scales is $1500 or so, so it's not unreasonable for some of the teams to have their own scales

Additionally the track scales, I would expect to have been certified by the appropriate weights and measures department.  The fact that everybody had access to that scale doesn't carry any validity at all particularly given that it was not only inaccurate, but random in it's inaccuracy. 

Like a previous poster said if you got a 15 lbs off measurement when you checked and when you came back through the next time it was 60 lbs off, that's a swing of 45 lbs

Bloomquist is a known cheater.  As was mentioned below, how many other cars were weighed throughout that night at the Dream?  So that scale was just "inconsistent" for Bloomquist and a few others. Oh, and the tire testing was "off" too......BS.

I find it laiughable that Bloomquist wants $$ for "damage to his reputation".   The guy has been DQd so many times, (not to mention his other transgressions) that he crafted his whole brand image over being a bad boy.   I know of one track that he weighed light in three straight UMP SN appearances....the guy has a problem with math a fuel burnoff.  (prrobably hard to convert from grams to pounds) 

Somewhere else I read that the lawsuit was filed in the same court as the Ward family lawsuit.....coincidence or scumbag lawyer move?   (I know,  the word scumbag and lawyer are one in the same) 

It's actually the opposite.  Who's to say the teams have validated scales.  Most tracks/sanctions have rules in place that state their scales are official.  That way everyone is using the same variance.  Tracks will let you check your weight before the night starts. 

You can't let people show up and say my scales say I'm at proper weight, so I'm good.

Didn't say that.  What I said was if the team had their own set of scales that they knew were right what reason would they have to "double check" the track scale?  Again, I would be of the impression the track scale would be correct and verified given there was thousands of dollars on the line.  

Because a veteren like Bloomquist knows the track's scales are the official numbers. He weighs in on a track's scales every night he races. He cheated and got caught. Now he's throwing this horseshit lawsuit out there to try to deflect blame. The other four teams are just pliling on.

The fact he's cheated before has absolutely no bearing here.  The underlying facts here are that the scale according to the Department of Agriculture was VERIFIED inaccurate and inaccurate to varying amounts.  Bloomquist feels he was wrongly disqualified due to the findings of the Department of Agriculture.

It's for the courts to figure out does Bloomquist have a valid complaint.

Did you even read the entire story??????

Only Bloomquist is filing for the weight issue.  

Bloomquist and the other teams were tied up in the "Tire Doping" at the prelims a few months back which I would think would be a separate filing, but none the less it's part of the same suit.  As for the doping itself, I have no idea what to think about it other than I sure hope the lab has their shit together.  

Does anyone know if any sprint car series or tracks tests sprint car tires?  As big of a deal as tire doping is in the fender cars and karts I find it hard to believe that no sprint car guys do it.  But I'm not sure I've ever read or heard of any tires being tested. 

Did you even read my entire comment?????

How many other cars that night at the Dream came across the scales light? Or was it just Bloomquist who got "screwed"?

And the fact that Bloomquist has been caught cheating before DOES have a bearing on this? Do you you not think that is going to come up in court (assuming this farce ever make it that far)?

What a bunch of losers. Late Model group has been bragging for quite sometime about their so called undectable treatments. Now they get caught and have to sue! 

Why yes.  I took the time to read your entire rant.  All I merely was doing was pointing out the facts and other particulars.  I have no dog in this fight (apparently you think I do).  

SO FUCK OFF.....