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Is it still a legitimate sprint car race if there is a mandatory fuel stop?  Key word is mandatory, understand if there has been an unusual number of yellows it can become necessary.  

Seems like that would depend on what kind of cars they are racing.  Of course, the stop is mandatory, but there's probably nothing that says they have to add fuel. 'Seems we're kind of talking about twin 20's. The catch is, the first one pays $0 and the second one lines up based on finishing order of the first one.

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I dunno. I just took it as someone who didn't like the fuel stop format.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if they are racing sprint cars, then it's a sprint car race.

If the length of the race is fifty laps they should race fifty laps with no stops except for an excessive amount of yellow flags. Late models and Silver Crown cars can do it. If they don't want to make the cars run that distance  then they should go back to running a 30 or 35 lap feature like they did before. That mandatory stop at the nationals is boring as hell. Also no cars should be allowed in the work area under red flags unless they were involved in the accident bringing out the red flag-I'm referring to the open red fiasco at the WOO race at Knoxville 6-11-2016.

Think of it as a twin 25 lap race.  You get to see 2 features for the price of 1.  If you are talking about Knoxville, I like it.

The Silver Crown cars have 75 gallon tanks.

Personally I like the 50 lap format with the mandatory stop at the Nationals. It adds a level of excitement and an anticipation factor that was not there before in the 30 lapper. The fans I hang with love it....we discuss who might make the right changes to make a move the remaining "half" of the race....or who might go backwards...or if someone is coming from deep in the pack, will he continue.....there's a lot that goes on during that break. A lot of fans don't understand what to make of it, or what might come from it. I can understand both sides of the discussion. 

Same thread every year.  This one is just a week earlier than normal.  This place is like a broken record sometimes.

I would like to see it go to twin 30's or 25, fuel, then 35. I love lap traffic playing a part and seeing who is the best at dicing through the field. I feel in the 25 lapper there is not enough laps in lapped traffic to make it as exciting for the fans. Don't get me wrong, there has been some great racing, just 5-10 more laps of that would've been awesome! 

My thoughts. Of cousre it's legitimate race and the biggest event is sprint car racing should be 50 laps to make it even more legitimate. With 50 laps on a half-mile, we all know a fuel stop is gonna be neccesary. Personally, I would prefer that re-fueling to happen during a yellow(or red) instead of a scheduled fuel stop. That way it doesn't interrupt the racing and potentially break up a good race for the lead. We also know that an open red changes the complexion of a race dramatically, usually for the worse(everyone is locked down after). IMO, there should NEVER be an open red in a sprint car race in which crews are given oodles of time to make whole-sale changes. That's just plain ole nascar-ish BS. Fuel stops and open reds should be brief with only 2 crew personnel allowed per car and no changes other than fuel and tire pressures. 

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   I think it would become an illegitimate sprint car race once they allow fenders and starters.

Not sure how you can claim that I was being a troll from your keyboard jockey position.  The question was presented to simply get some thoughtful responses, of which yours was not one.  FYI I was at Knoxville for the first time in 1968 ( probably before you were born ) and many Nationals thereafter and have been around sprint car racing for 6 decades.  

Agreed.  Stop the cars right on the track at a natural break in the action (yellow/red) instead of automatic 25 laps.  No work on the car, just fuel, then go.  Like Schatz or not, the idea that someone can win out of the B is by far a better outcome to me than no one after the first 5 rows having any shot at winning.

Yes it is. Period.

No it isn't. Mandatory fuel stops and open reds violate the spirit of sprint car racing. The race should be 40 laps and what should be mandatory is a fuel cell large enough to go the distance along with a reasonable number of laps under yellow. JMO

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This is getting so old and dumb.  There are plenty of other sprint car races across the country to attend where there are no fuel stops.  Just avoid the ones that do.  Then you will be able to sleep at night.