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Topic: POWRi to Introduce 410-Wing Outlaw Sprint League to Heartland
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ColtanW
November 17, 2021 at 11:23:52 AM
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This is an interesting development. A new Missouri-based 410 winged sprint car series with a projected 20-35 events next season.

http://www.powri.com/news/?i=98899


Ask Frank

JonR
November 17, 2021 at 11:47:47 AM
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Good Grief!   POWRi will put it's name on anything.   I guess they really need all of those registration/liscnese fees.   

I guess the real question is where are all of these 410 winged sprint cars in the Missouri Valley?  and how many of them are close to Lake of the Ozarks?

 



dsc1600
November 17, 2021 at 12:19:28 PM
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The hope I'm sure is it will entice existing 360 teams and new teams to invest in a 410. 



revjimk
November 17, 2021 at 12:46:24 PM
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Its a good thing

WAR series is doing OK with sprint cars in that area

Are they 360s or 410s?



Michael_N
November 17, 2021 at 02:45:39 PM
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If they go with Dain's rules nobody would have to buy a new anything. 



linbob
November 17, 2021 at 03:00:22 PM
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Posted By: ColtanW on November 17 2021 at 11:23:52 AM

This is an interesting development. A new Missouri-based 410 winged sprint car series with a projected 20-35 events next season.

http://www.powri.com/news/?i=98899



be nice if ascs went from 360 to 410 s.  They want to go to aluminum block 360, so why not just go to 410s>



NeverWasRcr
November 17, 2021 at 03:08:12 PM
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Missouri

scarce 360 car counts 

starting to get a decent 305/RS car count

410's???? zero



MoOpenwheel
November 17, 2021 at 03:48:28 PM
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Posted By: linbob on November 17 2021 at 03:00:22 PM

be nice if ascs went from 360 to 410 s.  They want to go to aluminum block 360, so why not just go to 410s>



Many of them wouldn't have to change anything. 



MoOpenwheel
November 17, 2021 at 03:54:14 PM
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Posted By: NeverWasRcr on November 17 2021 at 03:08:12 PM

Missouri

scarce 360 car counts 

starting to get a decent 305/RS car count

410's???? zero



If you think there's no 410s in MO then you don't pay very much attention. There's a lot more of them then 305s. If Powri pays decent they'll get decent car counts. It should only grow. 



miledirtfan
November 18, 2021 at 06:10:49 AM
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Posted By: MoOpenwheel on November 17 2021 at 03:54:14 PM

If you think there's no 410s in MO then you don't pay very much attention. There's a lot more of them then 305s. If Powri pays decent they'll get decent car counts. It should only grow. 



yep 



JonR
November 18, 2021 at 08:51:54 PM
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So when the All Stars were at the "home" of the POWRi 410's in July.  (Lake of the Ozarks)  Look at all of the Missouri drivers.

Qualifying

00:00:38.610Presented by Dixie Vodka

Pos Start Driver Hometown Car Time
1 8 Justin Peck Monrovia, IN 13 12.238
2 4 Paul McMahan Nashville, TN 5 12.240
3 2 Kyle Reinhardt Neptune City, NJ 91 12.290
4 25 Cale Thomas Fairland, IN 11 12.328
5 13 Christopher Bell Norman, OK 39 12.329
6 5 Cap Henry Bellevue, OH 4 12.337
7 16 Zeb Wise Angola, IN 10 12.346
8 12 Tyler Courtney Indianapolis, IN 7BC 12.358
9 3 Jake Bubak Arvada, CO 1X 12.415
10 15 Sam Hafertepe Jr Sunnyvale, TX 15H 12.442
11 20 Cory Eliason Visalia, CA 26 12.485
12 24 Giovanni Scelzi Fresno, CA 18 12.515
13 19 Ayrton Gennetten Versailles, MO 3 12.543
14 17 Brinton Marvel Pittsboro, IN 21BP 12.578
15 10 Kameron Key Warrensburg, MO 21 12.591
16 9 Noah Gass Mounds, OK 20G 12.612
17 6 Tanner Holmes Jacksonville, OR 18T 12.671
18 11 Derek Hagar Marion, AR 9JR 12.687
19 1 Slater Helt Harrisonville, MO 22S 12.690
20 27 Joe B. Miller Millersville, MO 31 12.778
21 23 Skylar Gee Leduc, AB 07 12.807
22 14 Tucker Klaasmeyer Paola, KS 27 12.811
23 18 Marcus Dumesny Sydney, NSW 47N 12.862
24 7 Ben Brown Marshall, MO 7B 12.892
25 26 Bill Balog North Pole, AK 17B 12.958
26 22 Kyle Bellm Nixa, MO 50K 13.412
DQ 21 Hunter Schuerenberg Sikeston, MO 55

12.572



revjimk
November 18, 2021 at 09:04:25 PM
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Posted By: JonR on November 18 2021 at 08:51:54 PM

So when the All Stars were at the "home" of the POWRi 410's in July.  (Lake of the Ozarks)  Look at all of the Missouri drivers.

Qualifying

00:00:38.610Presented by Dixie Vodka

Pos Start Driver Hometown Car Time
1 8 Justin Peck Monrovia, IN 13 12.238
2 4 Paul McMahan Nashville, TN 5 12.240
3 2 Kyle Reinhardt Neptune City, NJ 91 12.290
4 25 Cale Thomas Fairland, IN 11 12.328
5 13 Christopher Bell Norman, OK 39 12.329
6 5 Cap Henry Bellevue, OH 4 12.337
7 16 Zeb Wise Angola, IN 10 12.346
8 12 Tyler Courtney Indianapolis, IN 7BC 12.358
9 3 Jake Bubak Arvada, CO 1X 12.415
10 15 Sam Hafertepe Jr Sunnyvale, TX 15H 12.442
11 20 Cory Eliason Visalia, CA 26 12.485
12 24 Giovanni Scelzi Fresno, CA 18 12.515
13 19 Ayrton Gennetten Versailles, MO 3 12.543
14 17 Brinton Marvel Pittsboro, IN 21BP 12.578
15 10 Kameron Key Warrensburg, MO 21 12.591
16 9 Noah Gass Mounds, OK 20G 12.612
17 6 Tanner Holmes Jacksonville, OR 18T 12.671
18 11 Derek Hagar Marion, AR 9JR 12.687
19 1 Slater Helt Harrisonville, MO 22S 12.690
20 27 Joe B. Miller Millersville, MO 31 12.778
21 23 Skylar Gee Leduc, AB 07 12.807
22 14 Tucker Klaasmeyer Paola, KS 27 12.811
23 18 Marcus Dumesny Sydney, NSW 47N 12.862
24 7 Ben Brown Marshall, MO 7B 12.892
25 26 Bill Balog North Pole, AK 17B 12.958
26 22 Kyle Bellm Nixa, MO 50K 13.412
DQ 21 Hunter Schuerenberg Sikeston, MO 55

12.572



Doesn't matter where they live. If they show up at the race, cool...



quick33
November 19, 2021 at 10:24:56 AM
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This message was edited on November 19, 2021 at 10:25:52 AM by quick33
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Posted By: JonR on November 17 2021 at 11:47:47 AM

Good Grief!   POWRi will put it's name on anything.   I guess they really need all of those registration/liscnese fees.   

I guess the real question is where are all of these 410 winged sprint cars in the Missouri Valley?  and how many of them are close to Lake of the Ozarks?

 



410 wing drivers and teams will need to pay attention and not let POWRi group want to start charging you to race. This is what they do with all their other divisions. 410 wing cars never pay entry fees to race and should never start that slippery slope. The teams put the show on and should never pay to race.



RodinCanada
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November 19, 2021 at 11:40:23 AM
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Really, 410 teams dont pay to race?

I am not being sarcastic but I thought there would be an entry fee to participate even if minimal.

I know there may be exceptions but if I have a 410 and go from track to track through Ohio and PA all I have to do is show up, the car has no entry fee?

 

I suspect the team members pay an admission price.

Please enlighten me.


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quick33
November 19, 2021 at 01:43:32 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on November 19 2021 at 11:40:23 AM

Really, 410 teams dont pay to race?

I am not being sarcastic but I thought there would be an entry fee to participate even if minimal.

I know there may be exceptions but if I have a 410 and go from track to track through Ohio and PA all I have to do is show up, the car has no entry fee?

 

I suspect the team members pay an admission price.

Please enlighten me.



Yes, you pay a pit pass and that's it.

With 410 wing racing it's always been no entry fee, just pay for a pit pass.

Non - wing racing always wants to charge an entry fee plus the pit pass. ( USAC, POWRi, MSCS ) I believe that all originated back in the day of club racing and the non-wing series just kept it up and racers not questioning it.

 



revjimk
November 19, 2021 at 07:50:38 PM
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This message was edited on November 19, 2021 at 11:18:42 PM by revjimk
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Posted By: quick33 on November 19 2021 at 01:43:32 PM

Yes, you pay a pit pass and that's it.

With 410 wing racing it's always been no entry fee, just pay for a pit pass.

Non - wing racing always wants to charge an entry fee plus the pit pass. ( USAC, POWRi, MSCS ) I believe that all originated back in the day of club racing and the non-wing series just kept it up and racers not questioning it.

 



"Non - wing racing always wants to charge an entry fee plus the pit pass"

I didn't know that....plus the purse is considerably lower. No wonder they're losing team to winged sanctions.... :(



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