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I had heard rudeen was involved with the last deal that fell apart earlier this year. I could see some other high dollar non WoO teams entering but probably not 18 of them.  Or maybe a couple investors pay 18 teams to enter. I'm not a tax man but if the winner has to pay 27% thats nearly another mil. 

LOL if you think David Gravel and the JJR team have 200K sitting around to try this.   Same with Gio Scelzi.  Robert Bell?   Isn't he the one who comes to the USAC races on an open trailer?

Is Chuck expecting more than 18 teams? I'd laugh my ass off if somehow 18 teams ran it, winner takes the cash prize and he takes a $300K bath. I don't get it.

The zoning issue was rectified last summer. The track is not in Brandon city limits. So no chance the city could "pull" the permit. The 20+ years in Brandon and I have yet to hear anyone say the track was unpopular or annoying. 

Jack Black I heard the exact same thing earlier this year.

They are gonna charge fans for parking at this race gonna be mega expensive for 18-22 cars, come on man!!

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The city wouldn't pull the permit but the county could. Sorry if I mistyped that. I've lived on the east side of Sioux Falls my whole life and actually worked in Brandon for 7 years. It's surprising how many people I have talked to that dislike the track, they are typically the type that moved to to the area and are not your typical race fan. 

Remember Chuck wanted to charge $60 for a pit pass at the WoO show he was going to have. And his Gold Cup tickets started out being $65 for third & fri and $95 for sat. Till he couldn't get hardly anyone to buy them at that price and had to lower them. IF this race happens I would not expect tickets to be less than $50 each plus being charged to park. 

I just read a blurb on this race on racing news website. I couldn't stop laughing. Just more over the top BS from the king of hot air. Whoever wrote that must of been on CB's payroll.

One big crock of u know what. Someone had said tickets for this event will be free IF it happens. No way in heck tickets will be free. You can bet it will cost you an arm and a leg and maybe more. Article said the box was sold for 20k for this race already. LMAO.

"Gimme fuel, Gimme fire, Gimme that which I desire!"

Im going to attempt to list the 18 owners that I believe could realistically pony up 200k: As well as listing owners... I've attempted to add the driver. For example... I could see Keith Kunz putting a car together for Larson with Silva turning wrenches. As well as Kyle entering Macedo in the KLR#2

1. Rudeen - Eliason

2. TSR - Schatz

3. TSR - Bell

4. KKR - Sweet

5. KLR - Macedo

6. KKM - Larson

7. Roth - Pittman

8. BRM - Reutzel

9. SJM - I would like to slate Sheldon but he's been havin a rough 2019

10. RAR - Rico

11. Indy/Scelzi - Gio

12. Tarlton?

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Who else has "eff you" money? Feel free to add to the list.

My opinion only, but trying to guess drivers/owners is sorta like trying to predict the weather and in that regards, until I wake up and see it.............

Sure does provide some comedy relief. Can hardly wait for the next article full of horse puckey the Chuckster puts out.

"Gimme fuel, Gimme fire, Gimme that which I desire!"

     I got that in my e-mail at work. What a hoot!  The same nonsense, but deeper and smellier. Note to self: If I ever have someone write a fluff piece about me, proof-read it to eliminate those parts that make me look foolish.

Is it too late to add Don Quixote to the list?

Just because an owner has enough money to enter does not mean he is willing to lose that much money. Fact is if 18 enter 14 LOSE $200,000. Those are very risky odds. Not saying it won't happen. JMO

Understood and I agree. Thats why my list says its made up of owners who (in my opinion) "could" afford to lay down $200k. Whether anyone actually will... I have no idea.

Indianapolis 500 teams spend a lot more than $2.6 million (which the winner received) to race the 500.

A lot of the Sprint car teams in the A Feature at the Knoxville Nationals spend a lot more than $150,000  to  win a $150,000.(I think that what it pays to win.)

I know they are both Prestigious races  for any driver to win.  Spending $200 thousand for a chance for $3.6 million seems to me like the biggest winning paycheck ever for a sprint car team, and would equal any Knoxville national win.  

Some on else on this post mentioned about why a group of investors wouldn’t pursue partnership in a deal to win the race.  Great Idea in my  eyes.  The winner wins the race and pays all contractual partners back the 200 G’s. Or why hasn’t WRG, Kville and Quiring partnered up for it.  Is WRG still that financially broke.  Does Kville or Quiring really even want Hust’s open. Kville barely gets 24 cars on a regular night and Jacksonville  barely has any weekly 410 shows.  Could be bad for Buisness in their eyes.

Brennan’s dangling the carrot  and kind of rubbing it in the sprint card worlds face all at the same time by doing this.  Is what he’s doing wrong by not just selling it at close to appraised value. Yes.  Is Brennan offering a chance for somebody to win the biggest ever paying sprint race.  Yes.  Either way you look at it, the race happens or it sits empy forever. 

A lot of worrying about a race that will probably never happen.

That would sound like it makes sense until you realize something.   Even if a team spends 150000 to 200000 to win Knoxville (which I think is pushing it a bit) , and even if they don't win, they will get some return on their investment (some purse money even if they don't win).  Also, the car, team and equipment they use  has life outside of Knoxville which can return their investment to an extent as well.  To run this race for Brennan, they need to spend big money on the team, equipment and travel, like they would for any other big race, AND they need to put up an additional $200,000 for a very small chance of even getting the $200,000 back as well wasting the other money they would normally spend to run a race.

@Hellofit

Oh Chuck's dangling something alright, they're called dingle berries. 

He's the Barnum & Bailey of bs. 

"Gimme fuel, Gimme fire, Gimme that which I desire!"

    I disagree with your last paragrapgh and here's why. There's no magic involved with the track getting sold. It all boils down to reality and money. The reality is that it well sell once it gets to the price that someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn't matter how much Chuck has invested in it or how much Chuck says he has invested in it. It sells for what someone is willing to pay for it, not a penny more.

    This race, or more accurately the idea of this race is simply Chuck's way of trying to figure out how to make something magic happen. Find that article referenced above and you'll see a lot of wishful thinking and a fair amount of stuff that looks like it was made up. For example, the part where he says the WoO officials are going to be in charge of his race so that everything is legit. Does anyone really believe the WoO is going to officiate a non-WoO race being held by someone with Chuck's history? Why would they? The only benefit Chuck is getting from the race idea is the free publicity involved with everyone talking about this right now. When it goes south, like everything else Chuck has done to the track does, he'll get all the bad publicity again. But, at least he'll get the publicity. I think most would agree that he likes that.

ps. Jackson Motorplex is 90 miles east of Husets Speedway in Jackson, Minnesota. Jacksonville is somewhere in Illinois, I think?

"ps. Jackson Motorplex is 90 miles east of Husets Speedway in Jackson, Minnesota. Jacksonville is somewhere in Illinois, I think?

Chucky probably thinks that Jacksonville is in Minnesota, just like he thought that Knoxville raceway was in Knoxville Tennessee. When he had one of his press conferences 4 years ago.