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Wow, allot of pat me on the back,I don't do or have I ever done drugs people posting on this topic. As I recall I was telling a friend Tyler Walker that some of us are not fair weather friends , and are here to help in any way posible. I am one that really do not care what Rogue-9, crewchief 47, think and any other negitive selfrighteous person has to say. I try to live to relate to others and not compare. In some cases like this one, we really don't need your opinion if you have not had a problem, because you wouldnt know the truth if it hits you in the face. You people probably tell a pregnant woman how it feels to have a baby too, suprise you need to have one first. What I composed to Tyler deals with life and death a friend can fall into if they think they are alone and no one else cares. Vent your differences withTyler like a man don't hide behind your net name. My name is David E.Liggins and I'm usually not hard to find. I usually hang with Haud,and usually one of a few minorities of my race that attend sprint car racing. I dont hide or cut anyone down come by and say Hi sometime. As for when I post something for or to a friend that is not there for you to take away their hope, I take that very seriously. It really tickels me to read some of your none sense because I know you have never wore a jock in your life , or strapped your butts behind 800 horses,and you probably still play like you are a real race driver when you head home after a race. See you at Sharon, or Eldora come by the 35 car, or the 3x and introduce yourself .

Liggins i never claimed to be perfect all i said or tried to say was some people have the world by the balls and just piss it away because of drugs and they deserve any punishment that is handed to them and my name is Ed Noykos like i said i partyed pretty hard for a while but i woke up and realized that was not how i wanted to go thru life guess i grew up you get guys like Tyler that have it made get to race cars for a living and know the consequences for their actions and continue to do it then you have guys like Chad Kemenah ( who is a friend of mine ) that does not do crap like that and just seem to not be able to catch a break that is the kind of things that make me mad and the next time i am at the races i will come by and meet you when Jac or Chad are racing and i dont hide behind a keyboard you can ask Chad if i am telling my true name Ed

Chad has many breaks but they are the kind you earn. You look at this year and Chad goes through a test,don't worry about him cream rises to the top in Chad's case. Regardless of what you think being sick is being sick, I lost my father to cancer superbowl sunday. I was at Denver Broncos and decided the getting high was better than a million, you don't call that a habit you call it sick. The only answer is, and you are so right ,you first have to be sick and tired of being sick and tired. good chat my friend.

I never said he liked drugs or boy's but I do know he was from a very wealthy family and liked the glitzy side and definitely was not the average stock car personalty. I also know that the first real race car he was in was a sprinter.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Why does this guy always have to insult people when posting his position on an argument? French fries? I'm going to law school this fall bud. And I was responding to the guy calling it a disease. The fact that everyone calls it a disease or an illness only has the effect of making people think they have no responsibility and that they're the victim. The only way you can fight a problem like alcoholism or drug addiction is to accept responsibility for it and do something yourself to change it. I never said alcoholics are bad people, and I understand that it's easier for some people to get addicted to drugs than others. But calling it a disease or illness and making people feel like the victim isn't helping to resolve the problem. It just makes people think that others should make the problem go away for them cause they have a "disease".

So the discussion rages on with little known facts about why TW got the boot xcept that he tested positive on a test !! It is my strong belief that someone who knows the consequences of an infraction, and STILL uses the illegal substance must have a problem. As many have suggested, they dont think they want to race beside Mr Walker if he is using....... anything ! Many years ago at my favorite local track, there were those who thought it was the cool thing to do to have a beer or two or whatever before racing. Cuts the edge and settles the nerves, you know. Well, an old timer (former track champ many x) would just say "the time clock doesn't lie" and that holds true 40 years later. If Tyler wants to show the world his true talents, then knock off what ever he should knock off, and let the true talent shine. His times will be the best testimony. I truly wish him all the best.

I also thought it was only fitting that "Bill W" put so much lite on this subject. I, too am a friend. Many years.

Larry

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A healthy diet of dirt in my nachos and beer.

Rogue when you made your 'not a disease' post it appeared that you were about 12, not 16 like Bill had insinuated. You needed a slap and you got it, this is not the first time you've incurred the wrath of someone in this forum for ridiculous statements. Bill is an expert in the field and was giving his professional opinion. When and if law school works out you can tell us what and what we cannot say in here to people who make ignorant comments, legally. I rest my case, Take It Easy....

From Open wheel times....Kevin Eckert

I feel compelled to acknowledge the elephant in the room, which is Tyler Walker being booted from NASCAR for failing a drug test. The timing seems odd. Following a USAC victory party, Walker was required to fill a cup like a sailor returning from shore leave. A wildly-talented kid from Los Angeles, Tyler’s nature has never been secret. He and I have partied together. I simply figured that he had figured out the test pattern. It is doubtful that NASCAR is random about demanding its piss. NASCAR created such a screen to lock out Tim Richmond, and revived the process to show how clean they look alongside other sports.

What blows my mind like a bong hit is how 30 years after Jan Opperman admitted smokin’ herb, 40 years after football’s Peter Gent wrote North Dallas Forty, America is still anal about marijuana.

Pot is no performance-enhancing drug. If Tyler Walker was high when he smoked USAC at Newton, then a lot of other drivers need to think about hittin’ the pipe too!

Of course, tainted urine might begin to explain why Walker acted as A.J Foyt in that goofy video with Kenny Brack’s band.

Why don't we just take a vote on this subject?

If you knew Tyler when he was a teen this wouldn't be a suprise.

Frankly after reading some of these post's I don't want to know how some would vote. I thought much better of some of you people before this thread, but now I have new respect for others. A trade off, I guess.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

BillW - you add a treatment program for the co-dependent excusers and enablers and you got yourself a mint sitting right in this thread. helping a disease to fester is probably a disease too.

GOT DISEASE or GOT DOPE?

dat be da kestyun'

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Not nearly as diseased as some minds! Got it?, Probably not.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Yeah, you'd be able to pick out the stoned driver. That would be the one who was going 55 mph in a 140 mph zone.

Stan Meissner

id rather race with someone who got stonend the night before a race with little or no side efects than race with someone who got drunk and is hungover (ie-blurdvision-upset stumuch-headache the shakes and puken on themselfs at 140 mph) thats for damn sure

Robert Bond    San Jose Ca

There are few drivers I have known over the years that drive like crap unless they take a couple hits before the races. Knew a few baseball players that got stoned before a game. They were a couple of the top averages in the league. I have no idea how they can do that. After a beer i had trouble hitting in a batting cage let alone live pitching

Well, I tried to avoid posting on this "finger pointing" thread, but I feel the need to ring in on this.

I am amazed that so many people here have never made a mistake or a bad choice in life. the only difference in the poor choice that Tyler made and those of the stone throwers in here is that Tylers poor choice was made in the "public eye".

NASCAR is a huge hypocrisy. Their drug testing program is largely by popularity and tattletales. They don't test like the corporations in the "real world" do. There is no "set" formula to their testing. I work in aviation, an industry the same as auto racing, one that can kill a lot of innocent people if someone is allowed to perform their job while under the influence. I have to piss in a cup no less than 3 times a year, not just for drugs either, but for alcohol too. I somehow believe that if NASCAR were to do the same that some of the other drivers waiting in the wings would get their shot at the "bigtime".

Member of this message board since 1997

Hawker, I do agree with you, believe it or not. YES, I AM STARTING TO FEEL SOME SYMPATHY TOWARDS TYLER. BUT BEYOND RIGHT AND WRONG IT'S ABOUT HOW WE REPRESENT THIS SPORT. Humpy Wheeler figured out that if momma ain't happy with the races, after a while no ones goin to the races like they could. That equals fewer butts in the stands, which equals less money to the racers and before you know it you'll be running lawn mower engines with a claimer rule![half of this was said in jest]

Coming from the one who is always having childish arguments with BRR, I'm not gonna take that too seriously. And the only time I ever remember "incurring anyone's wrath" was during PA Posse arguments, and I believe you were on my side during those, so I guess your statements must have been ridiculous too, huh.