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I don't care if I don't get home until 1:00 or 2:00 AM, and it's just a 45 min drive, so there you go assuming things again. My solution wasn't about reducing the classes as much as it was maybe looking at the way the classes are arranged. The top billed class doesn't always have to be held last. Or offering some sort of participation event for the kids during down time. I'm guessing pounding down a few more beers and back slapping your buddies is enough for you. It's pretty evident you don't care about anybody elses night at the races but your own. Your opinion seemed to be telling people to stay home. Some opinion!!

Probably at 4 years old he also didn't know the differnece between the heats and the feature. All he will remember is that he enjoyed it. I took my kids when they were young too , never had a problem with them sleeping or being bored. Yes , on the hour plus ride home they slept, oh well , they had fun. I just don't understand when somebody goes out for an evening of any kind of fun , why they need to be back home at a certain hour or it ruins their evening. Go to a movie then , they basically are on a set time frame.

Probably at 4 years old he also didn't know the differnece between the heats and the feature. All he will remember is that he enjoyed it. I took my kids when they were young too , never had a problem with them sleeping or being bored. Yes , on the hour plus ride home they slept, oh well , they had fun. I just don't understand when somebody goes out for an evening of any kind of fun , why they need to be back home at a certain hour or it ruins their evening. Go to a movie then , they basically are on a set time frame.

He probably didn't know the difference but regardless, one of the best things tracks can do to attract new fans and keep the casual fans is to run an efficient show as best they can. It doesn't cost a penny to just keep things moving. Nothing wrong with a break. They're necessary for the teams and it gives folks a chance to look at souvenirs, go to the bathroom, get something to eat or just get up and stretch their legs. I'm all for that and I don't for a second think that we need to be in some huge hurry to get a show done. 

Do any of you guys remember half hour or longer intermissions with two divion shows sometimes not making it before the midnight curfew. Im remember every now and then getting home to see the end of Gun Smoke before it was over at mightnight while only living eleven miles from the track. I don't like being real late two nights in a row but one is still OK. Sort of like I have said several times since going to work in the pubic sector after being self employed for many years. When i listen to guys thirty years younger than me moaninmg working so hard. "There sure is a lot of Pussies around these days."

Ok i'm the idiot ,we will go with your idea less divisions=less racing ,less time for teams to prepare, less time to get anything to eat ,consessions,ect, we will work around your schedule you have it all figured out.i am sorry that the 3 races you went to this year were to late for you. i sure hope everyone understands how your plan has it all figured out and they listen to your brillant deductions.My opinion has about 50 times more common sense then your stupid post you cant comprehend anyones point but your own. you still think your ideas are good .damn man just stay at the home and enjoy bingo and jello night .

PPMS just ran a sprint car show. Fast time was I believe 140 or 141. AVERAGE. So, with that being said, there getting into the corner much faster than Selinsgrove.  Weikert did say Selinsgrove was the knoxville of the east. I can only say when we ran there back in the day we were nowhere close to those speeds, thank god. In today's racing, places like knoxville, eldora and  these bigger faster 1/2 mile tracks. The speeds kill equipment if you get in any type of trouble. You get back to the garage and just back the hauler over to the scrap pile. Look at lincoln on most Saturday's. They draw the most cars for a reason, and 1 of them is if you get in trouble, you mite be able to salvage something. Not on these big 1/2 mile tracks today. 

I've had this conversation with countless people who consider themselves die hard fans. Take a look at the crowd last Friday night at the Grove, and then find a picture of the crowd at the Grove five years ago. Big difference. Demographics have changed (we used to say they are changing, but at this point they have already changed). Racing needs to adapt, and some tracks get that and others don't. How much longer are area tracks going to be paying nearly twice what they do in Western PA and other parts of the country with a crowd half the size it used to be? Do you think the car count will be the same if the purses are cut? Will YOU see the same quality race? Like it or not you as a race fan need those people who want the show to be out at a decent hour. Across the board interest in car racing has decreased over the years, from NASCAR down to the local micro sprint track. These tracks need every fan they can get, whether they are willing to sit through 5 hours of intermission such as yourself, or if they are on a tight schedule because they have a home to maintain, a family to take care of, or a job to get to. We need everyone if racing is going to survive and improve over the years. So you, and every other "fan" who ever tells people to stay home if they don't like it you should think before you say that. The answer is never for paying customers to stay home. That is money out of the racers, and tracks pocket. 

Since it seems to matter to you I'll also point out that on Saturday I went to my 54th race of the season at Selinsgrove and I plan to add three more to that this weekend mother nature permitting. 

I’m not ready to panic yet. Attendance historically falls off late in the year when high school football begins.

The wreck idea is complete BS and people tend not to say anything when there is legitimate reasons for running long. It’s when you’re getting out past 10 for a single/double class show with a reasonable amount of cars and nothing has been on the track for 15+ minutes. See the earlier AsCoC earlier in the year at WG. The other big one is dicking around when there is impending wearher. Not callling WG for Friday but nights like when Lincoln had the FireFighter race. Those are things that drive fans up the wall and rightfully so.

No shit people didn’t saying anything about Selinsgrove because they ran the overall show efficiently and the “wasting of time” was cars on track. 

I've had this conversation with countless people who consider themselves die hard fans. Take a look at the crowd last Friday night at the Grove, and then find a picture of the crowd at the Grove five years ago. Big difference. Demographics have changed (we used to say they are changing, but at this point they have already changed). Racing needs to adapt, and some tracks get that and others don't. How much longer are area tracks going to be paying nearly twice what they do in Western PA and other parts of the country with a crowd half the size it used to be? Do you think the car count will be the same if the purses are cut? Will YOU see the same quality race? Like it or not you as a race fan need those people who want the show to be out at a decent hour. Across the board interest in car racing has decreased over the years, from NASCAR down to the local micro sprint track. These tracks need every fan they can get, whether they are willing to sit through 5 hours of intermission such as yourself, or if they are on a tight schedule because they have a home to maintain, a family to take care of, or a job to get to. We need everyone if racing is going to survive and improve over the years. So you, and every other "fan" who ever tells people to stay home if they don't like it you should think before you say that. The answer is never for paying customers to stay home. That is money out of the racers, and tracks pocket. 

Since it seems to matter to you I'll also point out that on Saturday I went to my 54th race of the season at Selinsgrove and I plan to add three more to that this weekend mother nature permitting. 

Good am glad to hear you go  and you were not the one crying and whining on here about everything. I've been goin for 50years at least 50 a year never really counted.If the people crying woulda have went the would have realize they never ran the support divisions feature 1st till a year or 2 ago and they only do it to cut down on intermission time, plus the lining up fast  remember when the lined up slowly?If i am paying more money evrey year i dont want to be home in a 2hours i went for a night of racing not an hour.And just for your information the track doesnt use thier own money to pay the purses it is all money from thier sponsers not from what they make off of tickets. hope you have a great time at the races Ill be there at 2 of them maybe 3  enjoy.

Do any of you guys remember half hour or longer intermissions with two divion shows sometimes not making it before the midnight curfew. Im remember every now and then getting home to see the end of Gun Smoke before it was over at mightnight while only living eleven miles from the track. I don't like being real late two nights in a row but one is still OK. Sort of like I have said several times since going to work in the pubic sector after being self employed for many years. When i listen to guys thirty years younger than me moaninmg working so hard. "There sure is a lot of Pussies around these days."

One of the best nights for Selinsgrove just shows the guys that dont go there the only way you can go fast there is with track time Freddie has gotten better every time he goes there,Lucas has definitely figured it out and Ryan Smith has run good there before.

Anyone know what happened that the Coldren car wasnt there ran two cars Friday in New York?

And whats going on with the Starks car seems like mechanical failure every night to bad its alot of time in the air not to get to race.

Good that Trent Shaffer made the show one of his rare trips.

I am still smiling ear to ear over this race Saturday night.  Thanks again Selinsgrove on put on a GREAT SHOW! 

Like Bob Weikert used to say...the Knoxville of the east!