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Drug Addiction is not a desease. You can quit drugs but I cannot quit diabetes.

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Drug addiction is a disease ONLY because there is a profit to be made from it in the corporate and professional worlds.

I can only shake my head in dissappointment about Tyler. I really like the guy. He has Kinser-esque ability behind the wheel. I just can't help but think he's going down the same path as Tim Richmond. I hope he gets straightened out before it's too late.

I have always been in favor of drug testing the drivers in all forms of racing. I posted a comment on this issue some time ago, and the response was mixed...which suprised me. Some claimed the cost to administer a program like that would be prohibitive. What kind of a price do you place on safety? What is it worth to know the driver running into the first turn next to you was not partying too much the night before?

Powder or rock form?

...ain't nothin' "Posse" 'bout walker. Never was, never will be... (nah, I shouldn't say that)... he may be able to find a Thundercar ride... maybe a Schoolbus at Dusquehanna.

I wouldn't be surprised to see drug testing in sprint car racing in the not to distant future. Frankly, if TW want to come back to sprint car racing, I hope USAC or WoO or whoever honors the suspension from NASCAR, or at leasts tests him on a regular basis.

I'm addicted to dirt track racing, that's not a disease, or is it?

I can't seem to quit!

The ignorance spewed forth in this forum never ceases to amaze me. Since I work in the field of addiction, obviously I don't expect folks to know what I know about this ILLNESS. Just like I don't know as much about making French Fries as Rogue-9. I'll be brief. Though I do steer from the word DISEASE, alcohol/drug PHYSICAL addiction is a definite illness that is affected by BIOLOGY and choices that are affected by social and psychological factors. Yes, an individual has the choice to do the activity or not, but once addiction sets in, we are talking about another animal. I teach a 12-hour class based on research on this subject to students who come in not wanting to be there. Most leave a changed person with the understanding of what is/was going on in their lives, and the four phases of alcohol/drug use.

crewchief47: You used to "party a lot". Good for you. You never developed an addiction. If you had, you would not "drink occasionally". And statistically, "ball players" have the same percentage of addiction problems as you and I.

If I would have one word of advice, especially for young people, it would be to be mindful of your family history of drug/alcohol abuse. Your tolerance level is the key. Children of Alcholics are 4X more likely to have a high tolerance to alcohol, and those with a high tolerance are 4X more likely to develop an addiction. I've probably said more than I need to, but remember that this illness can happen to anyone. It doesn't matter what "kind" of person you are, or why you use. Thanks.

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Thank you, Bill W. I have been back to this thread 10 times trying to find a place to start, and you said everything I was thinking, but better.

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One can only hope we see him back where he belongs, slinging dirt and passing cars at a high rate of speed. He has a gift few others possess and an ability to find the finish line, first! Come on home Tyler, Take It Easy....

Bill W when i was talking about my partying i was not talking alcohol i was talking pot we would go over to my bosses house at the time after work and do some serious smoking but like i said i grew up and decided i didnt want to live like that and i dont believe what you said about the ball players having the same percentage as us do you really think you take a per person number between working class and professional atheletes it would be the same percentage i would think the atheltes would be alot higher but if they were working for $10.00 an hour compared to the millions i bet there wouldnt be near as many doing itthey just have way to much "throw away " money than the normal working guy these people like Tyler, Ricky Williams etc that have life by the balls and get to play ( not that what they do isnt strenuous ) instead busting their ass in a factory deserve all of the punishments they get and i hope they never get back in to the sport that thew them out they had their chances and blew it plain and simple

At least the pot didn't affect your grammar, spelling or capitalization...

Notice I have made no comment on Tyler or Ricky Williams, just trying to educate the uneducated here. In no way am I defending their actions. I do know that our agency is pretty packed every day with those seeking recovery. None are ball players, and for the last 12 years many have come from the Maytag factory. 76% of those addicted are employed full-time. Do yourself a favor and visit a local hospital or Detox center, I think you'll change your tune a bit. Folks in the public eye are going to get more scrutiny and mess up your perception of the realities that are going on. None of the folks in my agency have been on Sportscenter or even the local news, but they are seeking the same thing that those folks are: self-worth, keeping their job, family, friends, money, integrity, security, etc.

That's all I have to say...

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Well said BillW. I love how some people instantly throw him and others in the gutter. Some I'd even go as far as saying they would be hypocrites. I've never done drugs but I'm not ignorant on the addiction front. I'm glad there are people like Liggins out there and BillW who put a hand out there for someone like this and those who eductate the uneducated.

addiction is a mental illness. If under the influence is not legal on the highway it shouldn't be on the track either.

Four Grandparents, two biological strains of alcoholism, one strain of the heavy Bi-Polar disorder. I don't need to tell you what mistakes I've made or what they cost me. Your consideration for the sport and the kids who watch should be enough to not put yourself there. Do it in your own time, don't defend it when it comes to high-profile drivers. Tyler has a gift to drive, but to do it on the level he was shooting for would require many people to pull it off. These people have people to feed, clothe, etc. They may feel sorry for him, but 95% will do it looking for another job. I DON'T HATE TYLER WALKER, I HATE ANY ACCEPTANCE OF ABUSED DRUGS IN THIS SPORT. Kenny Weld made it back as an acceptable member in this sport but not as a driver.

Hey, Tyler tested positive, NOTHING WAS SAID IN THE PRESS RELEASE ABOUT AN ADDICTION.

Forget about changing my mind, I do not find it acceptable in drivers that represent how far one can go when they come from us. USAC, WoO, NASCAR, IRL.

I work in a tire factory. The tires we make ARE the best in the world when it comes to the road. We had these problems, many quit, many failed. It's a different world now. Those who still do it keep it quiet.

In this sport we have had womanizing, boozing, fighting, stealing your best friends sponsor, beat up rental cars, exploding intertubes that rung the town, you name it. We have to stand against something. Yes, I'm smoking a cigarette while I write this. That's my addiction. I do have an addictive personality but I have a God given right to choose my addiction and who I support.

People who use illiegal drugs get no sympathy from me.

It's a crutch for the feeble minded and a lack of self respect and respect for others.

Care less if you are Hall of Fame Material or some low life down in the gutters, if you use-abuse or whatever, no room for you in my environment.

Why is it when they get caught and then all of a sudden are "So sorry..."

Myself, Yeah, I am addicted to Sprint Car Racing, it is legal and from what I can tell, no-one suffers from spending my time and money at tracks.

I take this personal because of Tulsa 2004. The Silver Crown cars were there and I brought my stepson, 2 of his friends and my then wife. I was broke from trying to show them a sport without being tainted with drugs. We stood at the gate when Tylers Girlfriend went through and the boys suddenly got interested. We went in and they then saw the dirt cars and got the feel of the place. We found Tyler and there was the girl. Tyler was fast that night, and I told them right in front of him that he had the it factor- "A SHARP LEARNING CURVE WITH A BRIGHT FUTURE"- Yes, another Tony Stewart at best. He wins the Tulsa 100, the boys were impressed and we went home. These boys that we took there were already around pot or worse, What kind of message does it send if he just gets a slap on the wrist?

If any one of you or even Tyler want to get on the road to recovery it starts right here:

We addmitted we were powerless over alcohol (or durg of choice) and that our lives had become unmanageable.

Bill W. you know.