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May 17, 2021 at
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I'm guessing LD chasing down DS as the place was going nutz wasn't something we see much of anymore. The Outlaws are who they are for a good reason . They no how to qualify, because if you don't for whatever reason qualify well, fighting back is tuff against those guys.
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May 17, 2021 at
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Posted By: revjimk on May 17 2021 at 11:37:46 AM
Strange how Winged Strawser always whines about Port, but not The Grove
Port has had better racing every time I've been the last few years
Guy next to me was complaining about all the Larson fans... seemed like there were almost as many Larson t-shirts as DeWease ones
Ain't what it used to be...
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I am not Winged Speed. But Williamsgroves feature on Friday night was much better than Saturday night ...cars all over the track for all 25 laps. If the track would have been better on Saturday Lance was going to win that race. He was the fastest car in the feature. After 15 to 20 laps you needed to get to the bottom, since it was the fastest way around.
Port is not worth my time anymore until they put more water on the track. Drivers are not happy with the surface. I for one hope it is a wake up call for the Port. Time will tell.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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May 17, 2021 at
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i would like to see the outlaws make another visit to lincoln and/or port. the gettysburg clash is the best show of the year and the nittany showdown seems too late in the year. some of us are on to football by the middle of october.
you might find people pass on the grove events if they can see the outlaws elsewhere. as long as people keep turning out the way they are...there's no reason for the grove to make any changes or the outlaws to put pressure on them to do anything.
port has been smart in making themselves the home base for the all stars. their two biggest shows are all start sanctioned now (i'm thinking of the 50 and weikert memorial). i went to my first tuscarora 50 last year and the atmosphere rivaled or even surpassed the open. you're not getting sweet and schatz...but tony stewart and tyler courtney isn't too bad. i could imagine a day where the 50 is the knoxville nationals of the east...more so than the national open.
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May 17, 2021 at
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May 17, 2021 at
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on May 17 2021 at 02:29:42 PM
i would like to see the outlaws make another visit to lincoln and/or port. the gettysburg clash is the best show of the year and the nittany showdown seems too late in the year. some of us are on to football by the middle of october.
you might find people pass on the grove events if they can see the outlaws elsewhere. as long as people keep turning out the way they are...there's no reason for the grove to make any changes or the outlaws to put pressure on them to do anything.
port has been smart in making themselves the home base for the all stars. their two biggest shows are all start sanctioned now (i'm thinking of the 50 and weikert memorial). i went to my first tuscarora 50 last year and the atmosphere rivaled or even surpassed the open. you're not getting sweet and schatz...but tony stewart and tyler courtney isn't too bad. i could imagine a day where the 50 is the knoxville nationals of the east...more so than the national open.
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If you are thinking about that....Port better get there act together in track prep.
The natty open at williamsgrove is much bigger than the Tuscarora 50. Better cars.....the allstars put on a good show....but the outlaws are the best of the best.
The 50 should never ever be mentioned or compared to The Nationals in Knoxville. What are you smokin?
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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May 17, 2021 at
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Went to the Friday show and except for the last couple laps of the feature it was a sleeper. Saturday I went to Selinsgrove to watch Lates & Limited Latres. I was keeping an eye on the Grove with the Race Monitor. Selinsgroves track was on the rough side (TOO MUCH WATER) but the Late Models & Limited Late Models were turning in many cases faster laps than the WoO at the Grove. Loking at the results, it looks like they finished where they started. Although Lance didn't win his 2nd & 3rd was tops for the both nights and he was the most competitive both nights. Luck of the draw & timing pretty much seal your fate of what your night will be. You can't get good at time trials if you don't do them all the time. The WoO take care of their travelers with this format.
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May 18, 2021 at
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on May 17 2021 at 02:29:42 PM
i would like to see the outlaws make another visit to lincoln and/or port. the gettysburg clash is the best show of the year and the nittany showdown seems too late in the year. some of us are on to football by the middle of october.
you might find people pass on the grove events if they can see the outlaws elsewhere. as long as people keep turning out the way they are...there's no reason for the grove to make any changes or the outlaws to put pressure on them to do anything.
port has been smart in making themselves the home base for the all stars. their two biggest shows are all start sanctioned now (i'm thinking of the 50 and weikert memorial). i went to my first tuscarora 50 last year and the atmosphere rivaled or even surpassed the open. you're not getting sweet and schatz...but tony stewart and tyler courtney isn't too bad. i could imagine a day where the 50 is the knoxville nationals of the east...more so than the national open.
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I agree. Tusky 50 is more entertaining than National Open nowadays
More competitive.... not many Posse teams have much of a chance vs. WoO , other than 69K
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May 18, 2021 at
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Posted By: RodinCanada on May 15 2021 at 12:26:15 AM
I was wondering if Brent marks is doing better Against The Outlaws than he did when he was an outlaw? Any comments as to why? Also I noticed they had 18 or 19 cars in the b-main but didn't have a c main. Why would they do that?
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Brent actually did pretty well on the Outlaw tour in terms of continous improvement. Yes if you compare the stats of this year versus 18' & 19" I am sure his average is up but I would argue also that it was because of racing to that standard night in and night out that he has gotten to this point. He was always a driver that seemed to move up through the field as each year I think he was the top driver in positions gained. The biggest issue he had was qualifying and it still is somewhat of an issue. I felt he had something going in the family 19car and was somewhat shocked at the news last year that he was aligning with CJB to run a true Outlaw schedule as I thought he would be able to increase his win and top5 totals in 20'. If he continues the success and has the funding it might be wise to back on tour full time in 2022.
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May 18, 2021 at
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Posted By: revjimk on May 18 2021 at 11:54:49 AM
I agree. Tusky 50 is more entertaining than National Open nowadays
More competitive.... not many Posse teams have much of a chance vs. WoO , other than 69K
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There are several races more entertaining than the National Open, but none bigger on the east "coast" or whatever you call PA.
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Posted By: Nick14 on May 18 2021 at 12:41:03 PM
Brent actually did pretty well on the Outlaw tour in terms of continous improvement. Yes if you compare the stats of this year versus 18' & 19" I am sure his average is up but I would argue also that it was because of racing to that standard night in and night out that he has gotten to this point. He was always a driver that seemed to move up through the field as each year I think he was the top driver in positions gained. The biggest issue he had was qualifying and it still is somewhat of an issue. I felt he had something going in the family 19car and was somewhat shocked at the news last year that he was aligning with CJB to run a true Outlaw schedule as I thought he would be able to increase his win and top5 totals in 20'. If he continues the success and has the funding it might be wise to back on tour full time in 2022.
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The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence when someone else is paying the bills.....At least for a while.
Racers want to win, that is the bottom line.
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May 18, 2021 at
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Posted By: fiXXXer on May 16 2021 at 03:41:23 PM
In Bruce's defense, when Lance is within 6 or 7 car lengths going into turn 3 at Williams Grove, he is "right there". His turn 3 sliders from downtown Dillsburg are his finishing move and many of his 99 wins (soon to be 100) came as a result of that move. No one on earth is better in turn 3 than Lance. I was very impress that Carson knew what to do to take that move away and hold on to the win on Friday night. He drove a hell of a race.
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Exactly! I'd say it was Moody who took that move away though, blocking the bottom the last 10 laps or LD would have been able to pull it on Macedo too. Unfortunately those turn 3 sliders are about the only way to pass at WG anynore. Time to cut down those long, strung out, single-file straights and update this dinosaur track into a racey 3/8's.
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