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August 04, 2017 at
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Posted By: Slamm1n on August 04 2017 at 04:44:26 PM
Thanks for that contribution, feel better?
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Well after seeing Sammy and his poor behavoir for over 25 years? You have call it as you see it.
He is just a whiney little bitch period. Always has been. I see his son acts just like daddy.
Great racer? yep....but doesn't mean he isn't little WLB. He would have fit right in with NASCAR.
Sorry your hero is an asshole.
There are a lot of good racers that don't act like he does. Maybe Kevin needed better parents.
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Posted By: shernernum on August 04 2017 at 06:12:14 PM
You can hold any personal opinion that you want, however once it is announced publicly and once it is directed, derogatorially at someone else, it deserves to be scrutinized, commented upon, and if found to be wanting...challenged. Everyone having a right to an opinion may be true, but the all too prevalent thought in modern day America, that all opinions should be respected is horse manure. If you are either objectively, or even overwhelmingly subjectively wrong, there needs to be a consequences to what is said.
Swindell put this out there, calling out another driver by name in public. Just about everyone else, including other well known drivers have called his opinion out as wrongheaded and unfair. Frustration in the moment is what it is, but in the immortal words of Herm Edwards, when it comes to email and social media in an emotional moment..."Don't press send."
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True, you don't have to respect or agree with Kevin's opinion. He's probably wrong
I'm just not that interested in "he said, she said"
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August 05, 2017 at
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Posted By: Methanol on August 04 2017 at 07:11:42 PM
Well after seeing Sammy and his poor behavoir for over 25 years? You have call it as you see it.
He is just a whiney little bitch period. Always has been. I see his son acts just like daddy.
Great racer? yep....but doesn't mean he isn't little WLB. He would have fit right in with NASCAR.
Sorry your hero is an asshole.
There are a lot of good racers that don't act like he does. Maybe Kevin needed better parents.
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Waiiit, we ARE discussing a TWEET, correct? I'm glad that you are glued so hard to Twitter that you were able to release 25 years worth of built up aggression over a tweet. You do realize that this actually has nothing to do with your nemesis, Sammy, right? He was involved in a horrific accident and his son was NOT accurate in his account of it in the heat of the moment. I'm sure in all of your life, you've never regretted saying anything, right? Sorry my hero burns your shorts so bad. Leave the fucking family out of it.
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August 05, 2017 at
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Let ye' who has not sinned cast the first stone....Kevin reacted quickly like any son or father would have done. I'm cofident when he saw all the replays he would have seen she had nowhere to go....What we have in this thread are a bunch of Swindell haters getting to bash and I'm sure your happy. The crash was vicious and Sammy had nothing to do with it, he survived because of todays equipment and for that we should all be grateful, haters included. They saved the seat and steering wheel and not a lot more, thanks again to his equipment and thanks to whomever was riding along with him.....
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August 05, 2017 at
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Well said MSPN. We lose too many of our heros in this sport, and this was that type of an accident. We are very lucky to see everyone walk away from that. Let's be grateful for that and not think someone always has to be blamed. This is racing and these accidents will happen....
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August 05, 2017 at
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^^^^^ And now that I think about it, isn't today the anniversary of the death of B.C.??? Maybe that will give us all some perspective.
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August 05, 2017 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 05 2017 at 04:35:44 AM
^^^^^ And now that I think about it, isn't today the anniversary of the death of B.C.??? Maybe that will give us all some perspective.
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Just glad no one was injured.The two main players had good finishes like happens many times.We can be thankfull how far the safety equiptment has came.Heat of the moment comments can have a a long tail. Time to move on.
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August 05, 2017 at
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Posted By: Methanol on August 04 2017 at 07:11:42 PM
Well after seeing Sammy and his poor behavoir for over 25 years? You have call it as you see it.
He is just a whiney little bitch period. Always has been. I see his son acts just like daddy.
Great racer? yep....but doesn't mean he isn't little WLB. He would have fit right in with NASCAR.
Sorry your hero is an asshole.
There are a lot of good racers that don't act like he does. Maybe Kevin needed better parents.
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Simply put, I think you just have it in for Sammy. Not sure why, maybe yo did see one particular thing out of ....how many? But you do need some educating. I've probably seen live, on tape or whatever, as many WoO events as any fan. In my opinion, Sammy's reputation is really not more than an "opinion" that caught fire and grew with each racing incdent he was involved in. And he certainly wasn't involved in many more than those others that raced as much as he did. His interviews for the most part were all pretty soft spoken, too. Now, everybody that saw an "instance" that formed an opinion about "slammin" and jumped on that bandwagon are mostly doing what they thought was/is the popular thing to do. Most don't even have a clue where the nickname came from. There are way too many tapes of past WoO races available on YouTube that show Swindell to be the opposite of what many have tagged him to be. And those tapes are damn good viewing. Who knows why fans choose to follow certain racers in a certain way. Dale,Sr hit more drivers from behind than any driver I've ever seen, yet look at what his popularity was. Sammy wasn't my favorite driver back in the day, I had others, but I never did understand the booing. Think about it. The booing happened at every track. No driver could have been involved in so many "dirty" driving situations. Makes me laugh! The other thing is this, if you've sat down to a Swindell family dinner table and witnessed the "whiney little bitch" you describe, then maybe your opinion really counts. If not, maybe you are being the asshole.
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August 05, 2017 at
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Suppose she did lock the car up in front of the field standing on the throttle?
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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August 05, 2017 at
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Posted By: MSPN on August 05 2017 at 01:03:19 AM
Let ye' who has not sinned cast the first stone....Kevin reacted quickly like any son or father would have done. I'm cofident when he saw all the replays he would have seen she had nowhere to go....What we have in this thread are a bunch of Swindell haters getting to bash and I'm sure your happy. The crash was vicious and Sammy had nothing to do with it, he survived because of todays equipment and for that we should all be grateful, haters included. They saved the seat and steering wheel and not a lot more, thanks again to his equipment and thanks to whomever was riding along with him.....
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I find it very surprising that even after seeing the replay he's not apologizing and admitting that he was wrong because its completely 100% obvious that Alex did absolutely nothing wrong. As Karl Kinser would say, even Ronnie Milsap could see that she did nothing wrong!
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August 05, 2017 at
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Posted By: Methanol on August 04 2017 at 07:11:42 PM
Well after seeing Sammy and his poor behavoir for over 25 years? You have call it as you see it.
He is just a whiney little bitch period. Always has been. I see his son acts just like daddy.
Great racer? yep....but doesn't mean he isn't little WLB. He would have fit right in with NASCAR.
Sorry your hero is an asshole.
There are a lot of good racers that don't act like he does. Maybe Kevin needed better parents.
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Never was a Slammin Sammy fan and never will be. However, he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I was watching it on the cushion and it was a racing deal. The Swindells will have to get over it. Sammy has wrecked a countless numbers of drivers over his career that he plainly took out the other driver. Or like the time Sammy got beat at Selinsgrove and he was so pissed that he went through the pits wide open after the checkered flag with people scattering all over the place so they wouldn't get hit by a maniac driver.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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August 05, 2017 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 05 2017 at 04:35:44 AM
^^^^^ And now that I think about it, isn't today the anniversary of the death of B.C.??? Maybe that will give us all some perspective.
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VERY good point.
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August 06, 2017 at
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Posted By: MSPN on August 05 2017 at 01:03:19 AM
Let ye' who has not sinned cast the first stone....Kevin reacted quickly like any son or father would have done. I'm cofident when he saw all the replays he would have seen she had nowhere to go....What we have in this thread are a bunch of Swindell haters getting to bash and I'm sure your happy. The crash was vicious and Sammy had nothing to do with it, he survived because of todays equipment and for that we should all be grateful, haters included. They saved the seat and steering wheel and not a lot more, thanks again to his equipment and thanks to whomever was riding along with him.....
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he has seen all the replays. And he continues to argue with everyone via twitter. First he made a comment about her not using the brakes. Then after seeing the video now he says she should've went to the left like everyone else. If he was smart he would tweet: "I've seen the video and apologize to Alex for making hasty blame." But he can't. he won't admit he's wrong, or "reacted quickly" as you said. He never has. That's not me hating on him. Thats me calling it like I see it.
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August 06, 2017 at
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Kevin has more seat time and success than anyone else commenting to him on Twitter, including DD. He has good reason to see that crash different than anyone else. He really started out with an appropriate reference to a line in the movie about aiming towards the wreck and it will be gone by the time you get there, and like in the movie, Sammy wasn't gone. Kevin didn't really get nasty towards the other driver and he was actually correct in his comparison. I'm impressed given the severity of the event that he came up with that comparison so fast. Kevin doesn't apologize for being entitled to his opinion.
P.S. I also saw it as unavoidable, but I also don't think Kevin said anything wrong.
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August 06, 2017 at
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"If a Swindell crashes in a forest it's the tree's fault"
Whoever said that on Twitter really hit the nail on the head with the Swindells, which is why it's so damn funny. Really glad Sammy was OK, but as far as their comments on Twitter you really just have to consider the source and let it go. I'm sure by now Alex Hill has figured out what kind of people they are...
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August 06, 2017 at
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Posted By: Green18 on August 06 2017 at 12:20:34 AM
he has seen all the replays. And he continues to argue with everyone via twitter. First he made a comment about her not using the brakes. Then after seeing the video now he says she should've went to the left like everyone else. If he was smart he would tweet: "I've seen the video and apologize to Alex for making hasty blame." But he can't. he won't admit he's wrong, or "reacted quickly" as you said. He never has. That's not me hating on him. Thats me calling it like I see it.
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...and that's Kevin calling it like he sees it, end of story. Nothing left to see or say, time to go home folks...
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August 06, 2017 at
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Posted By: BigRightRear on August 05 2017 at 08:33:39 AM
Suppose she did lock the car up in front of the field standing on the throttle?
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She started near the rear of the pack, not sure where you got " in front of the field"....
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August 06, 2017 at
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Posted By: BaylandsRP on August 06 2017 at 03:48:49 AM
Kevin has more seat time and success than anyone else commenting to him on Twitter, including DD. He has good reason to see that crash different than anyone else. He really started out with an appropriate reference to a line in the movie about aiming towards the wreck and it will be gone by the time you get there, and like in the movie, Sammy wasn't gone. Kevin didn't really get nasty towards the other driver and he was actually correct in his comparison. I'm impressed given the severity of the event that he came up with that comparison so fast. Kevin doesn't apologize for being entitled to his opinion.
P.S. I also saw it as unavoidable, but I also don't think Kevin said anything wrong.
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Sorry, but I'm going to trust Brad's opinion in every instance over Kevin's. Not only was he a succesful racer, but his experience in the sport is rivaled by very few.
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Posted By: revjimk on August 04 2017 at 05:30:02 PM
I'll have to look again, you're probably right, could not tell what made him careen across the track, must have been something.....
Bottom, line, its an insanely dangerous sport, accidents happen, nobody was badly hurt
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Wrecks at the start are pretty common down there and it's usually three or four cars trashed before there's time to say "oh shi.......".
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August 06, 2017 at
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Posted By: PowerSlave on August 06 2017 at 01:13:36 PM
Sorry, but I'm going to trust Brad's opinion in every instance over Kevin's. Not only was he a succesful racer, but his experience in the sport is rivaled by very few.
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Brad Doty is a good man, love him a lot.
Happy no one got hurt...Ugly. I think everyone agrees Alex had close to zero chance of that coming out any different. The end result of her reactions, whatever they were, prevented him from getting hurt. Kevin can comment about her technique, but the results for his dad's health couldn't have been better. Had she changed her point of impact to the left even slightly, the outcome could have been exceptionally bad. I bet there are gouges in the back of Sammy's seat as it look like she caught the right rear cage upright/tail tank/RR tire.
I still say the backlash against Kevin's initial Cole Trickle statement is overblown. He did not accuse her of doing anything wrong there. If you see the movie, the premise was that Cole did the right thing, but had a bad result, this result was actually great. Kevin started picking apart her reactions after the bashing started. Kevin is too close to have an unbiased opinion.
Pray to enjoy a safe, rain free 410 Nationals, you crash hard at Knoxville. I miss seeing Karl there.
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