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February 18, 2013 at
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Still no answer on if you have to join the Midwest 305's.
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February 19, 2013 at
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Posted By: addie on February 18 2013 at 09:45:54 AM
Still no answer on if you have to join the Midwest 305's.
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NOT MANDATORY TO JOIN THE MIDWEST 305 CLUB. It is your choice to join the club or not. (It is highly encourage you join the club seeings that the Midwest 305 club is finding the great racing opportunity for other 305 drivers across the Midwest)
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February 19, 2013 at
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When I look at your website it showed that you only had a couple races with only 4 or 5 cars attending. If you have more races scheduled then what is on your site then it may be worthwhile. If you could post
what you have for a points found or who your series sponsors are may help to get people interested.
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February 19, 2013 at
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Posted By: addie on February 19 2013 at 09:46:22 AM
When I look at your website it showed that you only had a couple races with only 4 or 5 cars attending. If you have more races scheduled then what is on your site then it may be worthwhile. If you could post
what you have for a points found or who your series sponsors are may help to get people interested.
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The races only showing few cars there was from the fact that their was few paid members, which would entail the reason for only a few people showing up for the race. I would like to run the website myself but I don't have that power. When the club had a lot of members the points fund and banquet had great prizes ( helmets, $$$ off frames, wheels, rims ) for the driver.
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February 20, 2013 at
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I truly appreciate what you are trying to do for the 305 racers. Why do you think your membership fell off and what would it take to build back up.
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February 21, 2013 at
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After a rough 2012, the Mid-West 305 club is growing and working with the 305 sprint car owners, drivers, and track promoters in a effort to get more races and standardized rules. Working with mid west tracks such as Knoxville, Boone, and Jackson,MN. along with traditional "fendered class" tracks like Alta and Algona and Dennision, the future is looking bright for the 305 sprints well into the future.
The big thing is to PROMOTE, not criticize the various organizations and tracks. Working together, I believe that it will suceed.
Signed,
A Sprint car lover.
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February 21, 2013 at
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It is good to hear the Mid-West 305 club is working with Jackson again
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February 21, 2013 at
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Posted By: ginelmore on February 21 2013 at 12:57:43 PM
It is good to hear the Mid-West 305 club is working with Jackson again
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I would'nt consider that there working with Jackson when they schedule a Boone race against University of Okoboji night June 29th.
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February 21, 2013 at
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Posted By: RWiese18 on February 21 2013 at 01:33:10 PM
I would'nt consider that there working with Jackson when they schedule a Boone race against University of Okoboji night June 29th.
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There is a very good reason the mw305 pull the last race that was scheduled for Jackson. Jon screwed the group outta santioning fees and he doesnt follow the mw305 purse. The only reason he wants it to be a Midwest show is for the car count. So why should the midwest 305 group pull all the way up there to take it in the shorts? As far as not making it mandatory that u be a member to compete is crap. If u cant swing $60 for a membership u probably cant afford to race anyway. I dont think ASCS or the WoO built there series by giving into the whiners. This is just my opinion and really dont care who agrees or not. I would have to say its getting a little old,grown men complaining till they get there way...lol
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February 21, 2013 at
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February 21, 2013 at
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Posted By: yagottawanna on February 21 2013 at 03:15:39 PM
There is a very good reason the mw305 pull the last race that was scheduled for Jackson. Jon screwed the group outta santioning fees and he doesnt follow the mw305 purse. The only reason he wants it to be a Midwest show is for the car count. So why should the midwest 305 group pull all the way up there to take it in the shorts? As far as not making it mandatory that u be a member to compete is crap. If u cant swing $60 for a membership u probably cant afford to race anyway. I dont think ASCS or the WoO built there series by giving into the whiners. This is just my opinion and really dont care who agrees or not. I would have to say its getting a little old,grown men complaining till they get there way...lol
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You are completely right there Travis. Not forking over $60. to become a member of a club that you are not going to race with full time is completely crap. Clubs that operate in that fashion generally tend to not draw very many cars from outside of their region. So going the extra mile to experience new places becomes stifled by the expense. It is obvious that you are not a car owner. That or you really enjoy feature races that only have 5 cars in them. Do you think that WOO or ACSC makes you join a club to race with them? If you are so wealthy that you can afford to throw your tow or show money out of the window on top of fuel costs to get there and tire costs to satisfy club rules and all of the other expenses that go along with owning and operating a car, then you should not even give a crap about the 305's, because you would not really have anything to do with the low dollar racers.............................lol Jim Clark
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February 21, 2013 at
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on February 21 2013 at 04:56:20 PM
You are completely right there Travis. Not forking over $60. to become a member of a club that you are not going to race with full time is completely crap. Clubs that operate in that fashion generally tend to not draw very many cars from outside of their region. So going the extra mile to experience new places becomes stifled by the expense. It is obvious that you are not a car owner. That or you really enjoy feature races that only have 5 cars in them. Do you think that WOO or ACSC makes you join a club to race with them? If you are so wealthy that you can afford to throw your tow or show money out of the window on top of fuel costs to get there and tire costs to satisfy club rules and all of the other expenses that go along with owning and operating a car, then you should not even give a crap about the 305's, because you would not really have anything to do with the low dollar racers.............................lol Jim Clark
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Hahaha I do own and drive my own car I have for about six years. I guess with all the money that we spend on these low dollar cars 60 dollars shouldnt make or brake people. Its really no different then buying a imca lisence, I guess if I go racewith another series I expect there would be some type of sanctioning fees if not great.
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February 21, 2013 at
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Sprintcar owners crying about $60 shows the bleak future of this class. Beyond help imo and not my problem. Kind of shows how much your efforts are appreciated Mr Hildreth.
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February 21, 2013 at
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I am impressed, it took 3 pages for a Hoseheads topic to turn negative. Has to be a new record...
Hopefully the MW305 series stays strong, a lot of tracks are closing and it is nice to have a group willing to put in the effort to get cars on the track. That being said, I wish I lived closer to them, our local 305 tracks have either dropped the class or went to open motor non wing racing.
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February 22, 2013 at
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Hey Bob I would like to race at Boone with you guys. I dont care about the $60 memberhip, I just want 2 race. I blew up my 360 last year and do not own a 305. If any one would like to team up for a few 305 shows or has a extra motor that could be rented please let me know.
Thanks
John Anderson
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February 22, 2013 at
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First thing first I do not have a problem with the $60.00. I can blow that in a weekend and have nothing to show for it.
The reason I bring up paying club membership is if I remember correctly that at Jackson it turned into a big deal. I amjust trying to avoid any problems that may come up. It is hard enough to get on a new track.
I would like to thank those that are trworking to grow 305 racing.
Last year the 305 guys had races scheduled at BloomFieid and was only supported by a few plus they had a points fund. So my question is what can we do different to maybe attract teams.
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February 23, 2013 at
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Posted By: addie on February 22 2013 at 04:30:31 PM
First thing first I do not have a problem with the $60.00. I can blow that in a weekend and have nothing to show for it.
The reason I bring up paying club membership is if I remember correctly that at Jackson it turned into a big deal. I amjust trying to avoid any problems that may come up. It is hard enough to get on a new track.
I would like to thank those that are trworking to grow 305 racing.
Last year the 305 guys had races scheduled at BloomFieid and was only supported by a few plus they had a points fund. So my question is what can we do different to maybe attract teams.
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It is hard to make everyone happy and no matter how hard some people try club racing seems to have problems.When racers try to make the rules they always think of themselves first.To get Boone Speedway to pay $700 to win is a big accomplishment as they run a tight ship and in the past havent liked vehicles that dont have starters .Being President is a thankless job that not many people want or can do.The 305s are already too expensive for a starter class and the main reason is the racers themselves .People that spend in excess of $10K for a good motor and then worry about a membership fee seem to have their prioritys wrong.Look what happened to IMCA sprint car effort and they should know how to make it work.Think about where IMCA mods started and now they are as expensive as a late model.Even gokart racing used to have $55 B&S motors now the same basic motor to be competitive can be 1K.Racing at a starter level should be fun and affordable but those two words usually are not in the same sentence.Knoxville is too big for cheaper motors with big wings but sprinters are appreciated there and thats why people lke to race there as they have many push trucks and know how it works.They tried sprints at Webster City and the racers had to use some of their own vehicles to push start them as they only had a few that had right bumpers to do it right.I would say the MW sprint group is lucky to have Bob trying to keep it going.
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It is hard to make everyone happy and no matter how hard some people try club racing seems to have problems.When racers try to make the rules they always think of themselves first.To get Boone Speedway to pay $700 to win is a big accomplishment as they run a tight ship and in the past havent liked vehicles that dont have starters .Being President is a thankless job that not many people want or can do.The 305s are already too expensive for a starter class and the main reason is the racers themselves .People that spend in excess of $10K for a good motor and then worry about a membership fee seem to have their prioritys wrong.Look what happened to IMCA sprint car effort and they should know how to make it work.Think about where IMCA mods started and now they are as expensive as a late model.Even gokart racing used to have $55 B&S motors now the same basic motor to be competitive can be 1K.Racing at a starter level should be fun and affordable but those two words usually are not in the same sentence.Knoxville is too big for cheaper motors with big wings but sprinters are appreciated there and thats why people lke to race there as they have many push trucks and know how it works.They tried sprints at Webster City and the racers had to use some of their own vehicles to push start them as they only had a few that had right bumpers to do it right.I would say the MW sprint group is lucky to have Bob trying to keep it going.
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You are completely correct Shortie12. You pointed out the exact issues that 305 racing is facing. The cost is out of this world. We ran a 305 at Burlington for 3 years. I have $3,200 in my engine and I towed 4 hours one way every week from the Chicagoland area. That is not a cheap thing to do. But we did it because my daughter wanted to race a sprint car and there is no beginners class of sprint car racing running out here. I happen to be EXACTLY the kind of guy who should be running a 305. Very low budget. I simply pointed out that if I had to buy a membership that would keep me from racing there. There is no way that I am going to travel that far to run a whole series. I wanted to run at Boone for the experience which would have also given them another car to add to one of their shows. Shame that this $60. thing became such an issue. Frankly I think that Bob is doing a pretty good job, although Destini's name should have never been included in their list of drivers when I had not phoned him as requested. The bottom line is this, they obviously don't have any support if they only have 13 confirmed cars, and people turning this $60. thing into a bigger issue then it needed to be is not helping the situation. We turned our 305 into a 360 last year because the better pay out to run last made it more cost effective to run at the back of a 360 show then to run in the middle of a 305 show. That is going to become a problem for the 305's if they don't get a handle on cost. So you are correct, the problem is money and it is only going to get worse.
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Travis, you hit it right on the head! Hope to see you at some races this year. Just watching & helping anybody who needs it. Sprinter 79, Why so negative?...they just want to race. JMO
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With all the discussion I'm going to put out there again.. would people rather have a race at Boone on April 13 or go to Knoxville practice night? I know some people want to go to the practice night because that's where they plan on racing all year. I have no disagreement, I would love to go to the practice night as well, But if there is a race with the possibility to win money early in the season.. that's where you will find me.. If your not interested that's OK. but if you are.. let me know..
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For what it is worth, if you read the earlier post, it does not cost $60 dollars to race with the MW305's. If you only want to race with them once for the experience it only costs $20 dollars. They give you a discount if you only plan to race with them once or twice. Obviously if you race with them 3 times or more you may as well pay for a membership. In addition, it costs $125 dollars to become a member of DIRTcar, which you HAVE to pay if you want to race with the WoO. There is no discount if you only want to race with them once or twice for the experience. The ASCS does not require a membership fee, does however require a pill draw fee to draw your start spot. UMSS requires a membership fee, and the list goes on. The only way for these smaller series to make ends meet is to ask for a little extra help from the competitors that race with them. I for one thank the people in the background that try to get us more sprint car shows. The memberships are here to stay, including at the HIGHEST level. I don't want to pay the extra money in memberships either, but if I use it as a reason to not race, then I will soon be out of places to do so. $20 extra dollars to race with them once is a bargain nowadays, and certainly wouldn't keep me from the track. Good luck to all those racing with the MW305's, I'm pulling for you as a group to make it! It's where I got my start, and I won't forget it.
Respectfully,
Austin Johnson
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