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September 06, 2011 at
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Can some please tell me why is o.k. to pray before a race ? some people are NOT the religious type if I wanted to hear somebody preach I would go to church. There are a lot of different types of religion so why not keep it in church. just asking.
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September 06, 2011 at
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Posted By: Anonymous on September 06 2011 at 12:05:12 PM
Can some please tell me why is o.k. to pray before a race ? some people are NOT the religious type if I wanted to hear somebody preach I would go to church. There are a lot of different types of religion so why not keep it in church. just asking.
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Most race people are nominally christian, so who can be offended?
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September 06, 2011 at
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Posted By: davemahar on September 06 2011 at 02:39:31 PM
Most race people are nominally christian, so who can be offended?
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People that don't pray. how do you know that "Most race people are nominally christian".I am not one of those people and I attend a lot of races.I see people around me talking or just looking a round during that time.I am not trying to change the world just asking why?
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September 06, 2011 at
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The whole religion thing ain't my gig either but I don't mind sitting through a few seconds of their praying. Good opportunity to have a splash of beer or grab some nachos etc. If the praying gives even one racer more courage on the race track than I say its ok with me.
Cheers!
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September 06, 2011 at
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Nobody is saying you have to pray. It allows for an opportunity for those who are religious, and especially those who are out there putting their lives on the line to have a moment of prayer or meditation. I am not religious, and in all of the years i have been attending races i have never been "preached to" at a race track. Usually its a simple prayer for drivers and crew and fan safety, takes maybe a minute, whatever, move on... Are you offended by the national anthem being played too? And at the end of the night after the race if all you remember is that they prayed. maybe sprint cars just aren't for you.
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September 06, 2011 at
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Posted By: goatracing on September 06 2011 at 03:26:20 PM
Nobody is saying you have to pray. It allows for an opportunity for those who are religious, and especially those who are out there putting their lives on the line to have a moment of prayer or meditation. I am not religious, and in all of the years i have been attending races i have never been "preached to" at a race track. Usually its a simple prayer for drivers and crew and fan safety, takes maybe a minute, whatever, move on... Are you offended by the national anthem being played too? And at the end of the night after the race if all you remember is that they prayed. maybe sprint cars just aren't for you.
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No am not offended by the national anthem being played I am just saying that praying should be a private issue If you do choose to pray keep it to your self or keep it in church. As for being a race fan I have been for a long time and just in the last couple of years this has been new to me.
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September 06, 2011 at
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I too am a race fan that does not want to hear praying I come to watch racing not go to church
ride hard and others will follow
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September 06, 2011 at
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It looks like someone from the other opinion needs to stand up and say,
"I really think is wonderful to invite to Lord's spirit to any and all your endeavors. I personally think is great."
When I was a kid in the '40's and '50's, everyone I knew was willing to stand up for "what is right." Starting with the sexual revolution of the '60's, a little step at a time, God has been eliminated from schools, courts, and every level of government. I'm amazed at how so many people have totally forgotten what this country was based on. The founding fathers wrote the constitution and declaration of independence AFTER opening their meetings with prayer. It is really a shame that these values have been superceded by a lack of gratitude for the sacrifice our Savior made in our behalf. If you've lost sight of that fact,
you have been listening to the little devil next to the chip on your shoulder . . . . rather than the little angel on the other shoulder whispers to you letting you know how wrong you are when you respond to that little devil.
Off my soap box . . . . I just want to tell the world, I love the Lord and pray his influence will be felt . . . . even by the ones who have turned their back on him.
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September 06, 2011 at
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This is turning into the pissing match that the originator of this thread knew it would so please let anyone who feels the need to add to it keep that in mind. It might save you some aggravation. I'm agnostic but I don't care if any event choses to have an invocation. It's no more offensive than the National Anthem and I actually look forward to that especially when it is done live by someone who should actually be singing it. An invocation is far less offensive and consumes far less of the evening than some of the dreadful music or banter that is often inflicted upon us by sub-par announcers. So invocate away. If this bothers you so much that you feel the need to bitch about it you likely have problems that can only be solved by a memorial service in your honor when you "check out".
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September 07, 2011 at
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It is usually a prayer for the safety of the drivers and the crew....not preaching anything..get over it...unless you don't care about there safety???....
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September 07, 2011 at
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Posted By: Anonymous on September 06 2011 at 12:05:12 PM
Can some please tell me why is o.k. to pray before a race ? some people are NOT the religious type if I wanted to hear somebody preach I would go to church. There are a lot of different types of religion so why not keep it in church. just asking.
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were you born an intolerant bastard or did your mommy have to teach you?
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September 07, 2011 at
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I am not religous at all..... but don't mind the prayer before the races. It's similar to the national anthem as it's tradition to do before the race program begins.
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September 07, 2011 at
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I feel every race needs to be started off with a short prayer and the national anthem.... After the time trials are over... Not in the middle of the program... Whats the point if half the races have already been run?
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September 07, 2011 at
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Posted By: jackhammer on September 07 2011 at 03:00:16 AM
were you born an intolerant bastard or did your mommy have to teach you?
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No,it was your mom she has taught me a lot
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September 07, 2011 at
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Why does everyone hide behind a screen name?
Would you say the same things if it was made public who you are?
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September 07, 2011 at
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I'm an atheist, and the pre-race prayer doesn't bother me. To each their own, really. I'm pretty hands off when it comes to that kind of thing. That's why I live in the USA, so I can stand idly by while someone else can say their prayer.
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September 07, 2011 at
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Posted By: Grove on September 07 2011 at 11:39:05 AM
Why does everyone hide behind a screen name?
Would you say the same things if it was made public who you are?
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Most with any balls will tell you who they are when you call them out but there are some nut-free trolls on here for sure. I don't know that everyone "hides" behind a screen name it's simply something you have to pick when you sign up for the "privilege" of contributing to a forum like this. And - YES - there isn't anything I would post here that I wouldn't say in public. In my opinion it should be the same for everyone but that whole "free country" thing still applies.
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September 07, 2011 at
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Posted By: Anonymous on September 06 2011 at 12:05:12 PM
Can some please tell me why is o.k. to pray before a race ? some people are NOT the religious type if I wanted to hear somebody preach I would go to church. There are a lot of different types of religion so why not keep it in church. just asking.
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If it offends you stay at home.
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September 08, 2011 at
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I can see your point......I wonder why they play the National Anthem too...seriously though...
Whether or not your Religious or whatever you believe or don't believe in.....don't you want all the drivers to be safe and leave the track they way they showed up? So if some of us want to prey to help keep them and you safe for the nights festivities to make sure we get home etc....you might just wanna hang your head....listen...and say Amen........
I look at it this way...when I go to my best friends house and eat dinner...they pray...and I respect them and pray with them and say Amen when their finished...its more about respect....for your freinds, family and fellow human...thats why...and maybe its about something bigger than you and I....
The older I get, the faster I used to be.
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September 08, 2011 at
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In my mind it is an issue of tolerance. Personally I'm not interested in the invocation but I stand out of respect for those who believe. At the same time I'd hope, the believers should/would leave me alone if I decided to remain seated and not participate. Typically, Christians tend to be Republicans, a group that likes to frequently cite the Constitution (don't touch my assault riffle), especially the first and second Amendments of the Bill of Rights. It needs to be remembered that the First Amendment establishes (among other things) the freedom of religious choice, which of course may mean no religion at all.
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