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Been reading that Dale Blaney isnt an All Star any more. They dont even have him in the point standings any more. Whatever happened happened but to take away his points is just crazy! I guess thats one less full time car now on the curcuit. Wow how times change. The All Star series use to be one of my favorites years ago, thats not the case any more.

http://www.pitgate.com/showthread.php?tid=9150

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Step 1) Load the series gun...

Step 2) Hold gun in series right hand

Step 3) Point gun at series foot

Step 4) Pull trigger

Step 5) Repeat until series bleeds to death

Loose is when you hit the wall with the rear of the
car, tight is when you hit the wall with the front of
the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and
torque is how far you move the wall.

I don't understand this. Many of the posse drivers are All-Star members, and they race against them when the WoO comes to PA (or anytime the All-Stars aren't racing in PA). I didn't even know they had rules about this?

It's called enforcing the rules at a whim.

The allstars used to have another "unwritten" rule. They never used to schedule shows when the WoO were scheduled to run in Ohio. Obviously, there's no love lost between Tony Stewart and the allstars at this point so, they chose to schedule against Eldora this year and now it's caused an "issue" between the series and their best driver.

Just another nail in the coffin. Should be fun to see if Katich tries to put a spin on it. I need a good laugh.

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Wait, so the All-Stars go out of their way to stick it to one of most loyal drivers the series has? Nothing against the racers that travel with the ASCoC, but the series was already a shell of what it used to be. Take Dale Blaney out of the mix, and what exactly do the All-Stars bring to the table for any track to book them?

I just cant get over the fact that Blaney has ran the All Star shows for years. One weekend he decides to go to Eldora instead and the ASCoC takes away his points, tow money etc. CRAZY! Not saying you kiss everyones ass but you should take care of the guys that have run your series for years. This move is about stupid and it is another nail in the coffin for the ASCoC. All it was going to do was piss off the few fans left of the Stars and you know that the drivers are shaking their heads now too. They may think twice about running with the ASCoC now. IMO this move was all about ego because on a business side the decision wasnt going to get them anything but more of a bad rep.

According to the pitgate post, the AllStar rules clearly define the penalties applied for missing a show. Also, it appears that the rule book was public knowledge, and Dale and George decided to run a different race. So they paid the price.....

Chuck.....

Meh, it's a series that only a few teams even travel with. And the ASCoC want to piss off one of the few teams actually do travel with them?

Don't forget Dale bailed on the All Stars last year when he had motor problems. I assume he was taken care of with show up $$, etc. last year because he was in the points last year. I think the outlaws may keep points on everyone, but unless you run 100% of the races you don't get point money at the end. Getting membership benefits such as free pit passes, tow money and point money has to be a two-way street.

When the tracks in PA and here in the OH area realize they don't need the ASCOC they are done. The ASCOC isn't worth the sanctioning fee anymore. Good luck to Blaney, hopefully he will run more FAST races!

He's more than welcome to run the Pa circut.

I welcome Dale as a true outlaw...he can win on any night

He bailed on them? LMFAO!!!

He didn't run anywhere because that was their only motor and it was a total loss. As soon as they got another motor he went back out on the road. The truth of the matter is he got nailed because he ran Eldora instead of going to PA and getting rained out that weekend. Stewart was trying to put together a new series to compete with the allstars over the winter and look at the schedule. When is the last time you didn't see Eldora on the allstar schedule? Never. It's politics at play and Dale got caught in the middle of it.

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Power Slave - I think he actually hurt a motor last year at Butler, then missed a show or two due to waiting on engine repairs to be made. George and Dale have a great team and I'm sure that they are probably relieved about not points racing. It can definitely be a grind. As far as the Tony Stewart proposed new series...don't believe everything you hear. If you can get more than two promoters, two drivers or even two fans to agree on something, you've done good. I don't think that "series" was ever close to getting off the ground...just a meeting and a couple dozen phone calls. Then, a nanosecond later everyone signs a Goodyear deal, and all is forgotten. As far as Eldora goes, we plan on racing there when we're able and there is no penalty for us racing there. If you miss an outlaw show as an outlaw member the penalty is about the same. In light of recent events, I just hope for safe racing, no matter who shows up.

Seriously...Dale is more then welcome to come to the Grove more often

But on a more serious note...Blaney ran last Friday at Lernerville with ASCoC...is he still running with the All-Stars, or just select shows?

Janet, I understand that the new series was far from being a completed deal. You'll get no argument from me there. And yes, I'm reading a lot into the situation. Could I be off base? Absolutely. But, answer me this, why would the allstars schedule against the WoO in Ohio? Wouldn't you have rather had Tim and the 83 team at Eldora competing with the WoO closer to their "home base" than traveling to PA for a rain out?

A lot of people are simply putting 1 and 1 together here. The allstars used to take the weekend off when the WoO ran eldora so that their drivers could "defend home turf" so to speak. Now, Stewart talks about starting a new series to compete against the allstars, no allstar shows are scheduled at Eldora for the first time in what seems to be the entire history of the series(I'd have to look back through the past schedules of the series but, I can't remember the last time this happened) and, now one of the top cars in the series has their points ect. pulled after they chose to run Eldora. Something looks awefull damn fishy here.

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Unfortunately, the Port Royal weekend was set for 2010 when they went in 2009 which happened before Eldora changed their 2-way WoO weekend. The WoO 2-day weekend has been switched several times from Easter up to Mother's day. There are no winners here, but, as a former promoter, I didn't like changing my "set" weekend for another track (even though it happened). I would much rather try to race within 5 hours of central Ohio, but, again, that's not going to happen either.

I think if you ask either Dale or George I doubt that they were going to run this week in Canada and New York, and I doubt that they were going to Red River Valley, but I don't want to speak for them. It's definitely a catch-22 for the All Stars...if they stay around Ohio they take away from the "special" element...if they travel, they lose cars because of it, and then there is no incentive to travel if they miss a couple of races. Keeping the above in mind, I can tell you that there is something special in the works for 2011 with the All Stars that will take care of a lot of these problems that might actually be their best idea yet. I will let that sit for awhile and I'm sure there will be several people filling in the blanks.

Dale wins speedweek just to piss off GW.