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I've been wanting to say this for a couple of weeks, but at the risk of being torched, I kept my mouth shut.  I'm going to go ahead and say it now.  If Kyle does not get a ride in Nascar next year, and makes the decision to run only the World of Outlaws for points, Steve Kinser's 1987 record of 46 wins is in jeopardy.  There, I said it.  

I won't torch you but I doubt it. All good things eventually end and there are some good teams out there they will start to catch up.

That would be roughly 2 out of every 3 races, even on the streak he's on I can't see that happening over an entire year. 

I can't imagine him not getting back in nascar next year if he wants to.

I can see 30+ and probably beating Donny's number a few years ago. Some of it would depend on rainouts & the number of events ran. Not sure the amount of races ran during kinsers record. I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility as he would have a better chance than anyone before. Still a long shot but 46 was probably a long shot even back then

Does anyone have an accurate win count? 
Here's what I've found but I might be missing a few

WoO - 9
All Star - 13
USAC - 4
PA - 4
Chili Bowl - 2

Total - 32

My belief is that running a full regular woo season with 90+ races is a different animal than what paul and kyle are doing right now. Alot of different factors come into play on a 90 race season championship. You put alot more demand on the whole crew keeping up with fresh equipment and being consistant night after night. You have to have in your mind as a driver that should I try to make this move, because if I do and get upside down, I'm going to lose alot of points. Literally 2 to 4 nights bad finishes due to crash or equipment failure can cost you a championship on woo tour.  When sweet and larson were battling last night at red river valley, you had 2 different racer menalitys going on. Kyle is racing with nothing to lose but sweet has got to be thinking, "ive got to figure out how to be kyle larson right now, but I've got to do it and still plan on finishing second because it close to the end of season and another dnf will probably lose the championship. People dont understand that. When you are doing what kyle is now, the only thing you have to think about winning without consequence. Now before the start of racing season this year when I watched kyle race a sprint cat, I viewed him as a pretty reckless, on the verge of out of control and felt like he could wreck at any time. After this year I have changed my opinion and I see him as smoother and more in control than i thought he was. I'd be hesitant to bet against kyle but i just really feel like running a 90 race season for points is so much different. This all assuming he is Silva's car. I said it in another post and I'll say it again, if hes in  different car with a different crew chief, success rate will go down. I would lay good $ on that

I'm 100% with you, and I hope that's exactly what happens.    Everyone seems to think it's a slam dunk that he takes over the SHR #14 next year though.   I'd rather see him on the WoO tour.    

Time will tell.... I wouldn't bet against it tho

46 wins is pretty amazing!

Exactly my thoughts. I'm in the camp he will be back in NASCAR next season, I'd be more surprised if I woke up with my head stapled to the floor actually (ya I did steal that line), but SHOULD he be back and run the whole tour, even though I don't think that's what Paul Silva is interested in, would the continuance of his domin this year be a good thing?  At some point interest wanes. I'm gonna be quite frank here, and this is on no way taking away from what he has done, been doing or will be doing, its histori, I get that.........but (and I'm sure I'm setting myself up for a shitstorm of criticism here, and if so just leave it in your head because I can only say so many times that what I'm gonna say takes nothing away from KL, it's been amazing to watch), I'm getting a bit bored with it to be honest. There....I said it. The last two nights I haven't even thought about renting DV to watch it, even though the Grand Forks track is so exciting since I knew he'd be there. I didn't even follow on Twitter. I waited until I thought it would be over and checked in to see what I already knew would be the result before cars would even start motor heat. My interest is waning because the outcome was a near forgone conclusion. It's like watching football Game that ya had Marty McFlys Greys Sports Almanac for the future. Now I know I missed some exciting stuff and fantastic moves by KL and that's my loss for certain. and I'm not whining because "My Guy" doesn't win, I know it sounds like it but it's not, since I "like" several on the tour, From Gravel, to Donny, to Sheldon, to the Sharks and others. Hell all I wanted to see this year was one guy win one single race and that's Jacob Allen finally get that W.....but now, should Jacob get that next weekend when Larson is off with Late Models supposedly, hypothetically, will every post congratulating Jacob Allen, a young man who deserves a W like no other, who has shown so much improvement and suffered so many heartbreaks, should he get that elusive win, how many comments on that post will read...."ya but Kyle wasn't there", "he wouldn't have won if Kyle was there".  You know it'll happen, folks will put an asterisk next to his name and he wouldn't deserve it. 

Like I said, I'm not dissing Larson at all, what he's done is absolutely F'n amazing. But for me, it's causing a slight amount of boredom. 

I know I'm opening myself up to a shitstorm....but I know there's at least a few of ya out there who feel the same. 

DakotaDude. 

Also being thrown out there..... Larson to the 48 Hendrick car next year.

If that's the case ya better watch him on dirt all ya can because ya Won't be seeing him on it for a loooooong time. Mr Hendrick is notorious for severely limiting his driver's extracurricular activities. 

LMAO...  You have the funniest username I've ever seen on any internet forum! 

Correct.......I'm not calling it, I'm just saying it would be in jeopardy for the first time in a LONG time. 

That's insanity

Kyle would race the entire WoO schedule with "nothing to lose"----JMO    I think the full-time WoO schedule would be a vacation compared to what Kyle has been doing the last 3-4 years.  

8 months ago, the pundits were saying he couldnt win a WoO championship.  We all know now that it is certainly possible.   Im going to say that if he is not back in Nascar next year.  Youll see a Anything,Anywhere,Anytime tour.  A true outlas schedule that chases the big money shows, whether its Midgets, Sprint Cars, Silver Crown and , DLM.  That way he doesnt wear our any of his associated teams,  It will all depend on how his DLM debut goes the rest of the year..  I think hes having so much fun barnstorming back and forth across the country to give that up.  Until I see companies like Chevrolet, McDonalds, and Credit One back on the KLR 2 or the 57,Im not thinking hes going to leave dirt.  If there ever was a sponsorship opportunity for a large company, it would be the 57 this year, and I dont think theres anything new over the last 6 months.  Many thanks to Tarltons, Durst Family. Priority Aviation, Vortex Wings, Lucas Oil,

He just set quick time in a Silver Crown car at the Hoosier Hundred so he could dominate another series today.  They finished time trials and started their non qualifiers race as I type.

Stan Meissner

I think you're 100% correct on what may happen, should Larson not be back in Cup next year, as You titled it The Anything, Anywhere, Anytime Tour. BUT......I have to disagree on the Cup deal, I think he will be there. Maybe I'm reading too much into Smokes quote this week towards the powers that be in Cup, but I'm thinking Smoke may have something in the works already and has smoothed those waters and that's why he was telling NASCAR to shit or get off the pot and reinstate him.        At the same time, I'd forward the name you came up for the tour next season to KLR, ya never Know. 

Yeah your right 32 and now he is in a conversation with Steve Kinser. I just cant say enough of how good he is guys.

Dont forget how much ass he is kicked in Go Karts and Outlaw Karts

So if he gets a few more wins then I guess he will be the best to ever drive a race car ever so everbody else might as well go ahead and line up and kiss his ass and bow down cause he is undisputed the new King with 9 woo wins "Cant touch him"