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November 22, 2017 at
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November 23, 2017 at
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Does anyone build a DOCUL tubing sprint car? Is it an option with any prominent builders, like Maxim or DRC or Eagle?
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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November 22, 2017 at
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Posted By: Aces&Eights on November 22 2017 at 05:38:38 PM
Does anyone build a DOCUL tubing sprint car? Is it an option with any prominent builders, like Maxim or DRC or Eagle?
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It is an option at J&J Chassis it adds quite a bit to the cost of the frame I know Donny Schatz has a few and I think Trey Starks as well
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November 22, 2017 at
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I think I just read an article that Ryan Linder is building some X-1 Chassis using Docul...I'll see if I can find the article (if I'm right).
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November 22, 2017 at
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Found the article...yep Docol R8:
http://www.insidelinepromotions.com/news/?i=55023
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November 23, 2017 at
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Some other interesting reads:
http://www.ssab.us/globaldata/news-center/2016/01/18/08/06/racing-into-the-future-with-docol-tubing
http://www.aedmotorsport.com/catalog/product/docol-tube-r8
https://pcdracecars.com/2017/06/15/chassis-material-choices-promoly-4130-docol-r8-dom-erw/
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/building-a-racecar-chassis-tech/
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November 23, 2017 at
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Late model builder Rocket Chassis out of West Virginia has been building their XR-1 chassis out of this Docul tubing for a few years now. The Rocket house car that was driven by Josh Richards in 2016 and in 2017 by Brandon Shepherd to date has 50 wins and 2 WoO LM championships out of 140 starts on the original chassis. Getting that many races out of one chassis at that level of competition is unheard of and speaks for the quality and strength of the Docul tubing.
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November 23, 2017 at
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Posted By: jus the facts on November 22 2017 at 06:42:46 PM
It is an option at J&J Chassis it adds quite a bit to the cost of the frame I know Donny Schatz has a few and I think Trey Starks as well
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Thats cool. I couldn't get X-1 Race cars website to work, but FB did. Think I cam across a video where ART is using DOCUL R8 in their cars too.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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November 23, 2017 at
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Interesting. My only question to this is, if it's stronger and guys race them longer. What's this do to the chassis manufacture ? He won't be building as many cars because the demand is going to lesson. Or is this the reason a new xr-1 is so much more than others ?
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November 23, 2017 at
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Posted By: D1RT on November 23 2017 at 06:34:24 AM
Late model builder Rocket Chassis out of West Virginia has been building their XR-1 chassis out of this Docul tubing for a few years now. The Rocket house car that was driven by Josh Richards in 2016 and in 2017 by Brandon Shepherd to date has 50 wins and 2 WoO LM championships out of 140 starts on the original chassis. Getting that many races out of one chassis at that level of competition is unheard of and speaks for the quality and strength of the Docul tubing.
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Wait, I was led to believe that the main reason, the only reason really, as to why those cars won so much was the Ford powerplant.
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November 23, 2017 at
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Add to the Rocket house car XR-1 late model chassis stats 10,025 laps on it....
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November 23, 2017 at
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Posted By: alum.427 on November 23 2017 at 09:32:14 AM
Interesting. My only question to this is, if it's stronger and guys race them longer. What's this do to the chassis manufacture ? He won't be building as many cars because the demand is going to lesson. Or is this the reason a new xr-1 is so much more than others ?
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This material is similar strength but deforms better insted of snapping or breaking off like chromoly tends too. Yes if a car manages not to get crashed it should last longer, but I think the uptick in safety and is less labor intensive prep during build, that the builders won't be effected much except in higher cost of material. Cars still have to be fixed and if the driver is more likely to survive or not be severly injured he can return to buy another car...
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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November 24, 2017 at
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Posted By: Aces&Eights on November 22 2017 at 05:38:38 PM
Does anyone build a DOCUL tubing sprint car? Is it an option with any prominent builders, like Maxim or DRC or Eagle?
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Most organizations list only chomoly to be used in constuction of cars. Even quarter midgets list chomeoly only on frames. They would have to change rules. Are you sure they are building sprint cars with this?
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November 24, 2017 at
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Docol has higher ductility than chromemlly, yet the same strength and durability.
Made by SSAB, see here:
http://www.ssab.us/globaldata/news-center/2016/12/05/12/08/racing-ahead-with-docol-r8-tube
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November 25, 2017 at
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Posted By: linbob on November 24 2017 at 12:44:25 AM
Most organizations list only chomoly to be used in constuction of cars. Even quarter midgets list chomeoly only on frames. They would have to change rules. Are you sure they are building sprint cars with this?
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Yes, X1, J&J and ART offer Docul R8 chassis. I realize USAC specifies Chromoly at present, but the whole world isn't USAC.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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November 25, 2017 at
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November 25, 2017 at
08:36:26 AM by Jake B.
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Posted By: Aces&Eights on November 25 2017 at 06:50:39 AM
Yes, X1, J&J and ART offer Docul R8 chassis. I realize USAC specifies Chromoly at present, but the whole world isn't USAC.
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I checked out the WoO, All Star, and all 3 USAC National series rule books. None of them state the word "chromemoly" in the rules. They all mention the ASTM 4130 spec, so as long as the Docul tubing meets that spec it's legal.
I've never heard of this tubing before. Interesting to hear about it.
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November 25, 2017 at
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November 25, 2017 at
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Posted By: Jake B. on November 25 2017 at 08:36:01 AM
I checked out the WoO, All Star, and all 3 USAC National series rule books. None of them state the word "chromemoly" in the rules. They all mention the ASTM 4130 spec, so as long as the Docul tubing meets that spec it's legal.
I've never heard of this tubing before. Interesting to hear about it.
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Here a youtube video about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8JlasQGl2A
SSAB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlBw2pgADhg
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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November 26, 2017 at
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Posted By: Aces&Eights on November 25 2017 at 06:50:39 AM
Yes, X1, J&J and ART offer Docul R8 chassis. I realize USAC specifies Chromoly at present, but the whole world isn't USAC.
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Art doesn't build cars anymore
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November 26, 2017 at
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Posted By: comeon38 on November 26 2017 at 02:31:19 PM
Art doesn't build cars anymore
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I stand corrected, but the other (2) do. Thanks for update.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
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