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miledirtfan
July 15, 2017 at 06:58:52 PM
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The track slows down the longer it goes on...

is it just luck that Schatz goes out first?




dsc1600
July 15, 2017 at 07:39:43 PM
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If you're implying Schatz got some advantage by being first out, he didn't. They invert the top 30 in times for the heats then start the feature heads up based on the heat finish. Other than a guaranteed 19th starting spot, there's no advantage to being quick time at thr Royal. 



miledirtfan
July 15, 2017 at 09:00:24 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 15 2017 at 07:39:43 PM

If you're implying Schatz got some advantage by being first out, he didn't. They invert the top 30 in times for the heats then start the feature heads up based on the heat finish. Other than a guaranteed 19th starting spot, there's no advantage to being quick time at thr Royal. 



Wasn't implying anything ... really was just curious how the draw for qualifying worked and what advantage there was to it




supaschatz
July 16, 2017 at 01:03:24 AM
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There was none. Schatz ran like normal and everyone else was sandbagging outside of Bell and Sides.



ryanhunsinger
July 16, 2017 at 03:41:28 AM
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I don't see the point of running time trials when the top qualifier ends up starting 5th in his heat race and the feature is heads up, especially in a 50k to win race. It obviously worked out for Schatz but it seems Mickey Mouse to me. They already run 3 nights anyways so they should either just start the heats heads up based on time trials or do something with combined points like Knoxville does to set half the field for the final night and then run the regular qualifying  show to set the second half of the field. 



alum.427
July 16, 2017 at 07:10:40 AM
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His x ray eyes lets him look into the pill bottle and ricky warner has him pull the number he wants so he can go out and set fast time. Some may believe that, i better quit while i am ahead. The 15 team kicked tail. If Bell and Smith could have started a little closer it could have been a race. But, was DS giving it his all in the closing laps or was he saving anything if someone showed there nose. Something will never no. The month of money races will be interesting.




dkdorkboy
July 16, 2017 at 07:19:39 AM
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The fast qualifier starts 5th in his heat and has to win heat to start in front 3 rows.Seems fair to me.



shernernum
July 16, 2017 at 10:17:26 AM
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How many heat race starts and restarts ended up with the third place car having the lead before they hit the start finish line, by getting a jump on the bottom while the leader slid up the track.



OutlawDan
July 16, 2017 at 10:32:38 AM
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I like the KR format.  Heat races are exciting knowing they win the start in the first 3 rows.  Please don't turn it into a 3 day points system, I like how a car can show up on just Saturday and make the show.  That's what makes the KR interesting all these years.




dsc1600
July 16, 2017 at 10:47:49 AM
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Posted By: OutlawDan on July 16 2017 at 10:32:38 AM

I like the KR format.  Heat races are exciting knowing they win the start in the first 3 rows.  Please don't turn it into a 3 day points system, I like how a car can show up on just Saturday and make the show.  That's what makes the KR interesting all these years.



I would agree, the only thing I might change is to make Thurs/Fri winners guaranteed starters in the Royal. Or give some incentive to be quick time by giving 5 or 10k to be quick time. 

But the heats yesterday were the best of the year. 



ortim
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July 16, 2017 at 09:01:05 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 16 2017 at 10:47:49 AM

I would agree, the only thing I might change is to make Thurs/Fri winners guaranteed starters in the Royal. Or give some incentive to be quick time by giving 5 or 10k to be quick time. 

But the heats yesterday were the best of the year. 



i think they may have already done that,chris bell finished last in his heat dident run c or b and started a main 20th maybe because he won the night b4 or was fast tt guy



blitzman
July 17, 2017 at 02:53:54 AM
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Posted By: ortim on July 16 2017 at 09:01:05 PM

i think they may have already done that,chris bell finished last in his heat dident run c or b and started a main 20th maybe because he won the night b4 or was fast tt guy



Format, the fastest 2 qualifiers that didn't transfer out of their heat races gets the 19th & 20 the starting spots. Schatz wins heat, Sides finishes 4th or 5th in heat & takes the 19th starting spot, Bell has motor issues in heat, changes motor & takes the 20th starting spot. 


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GTigers55
July 17, 2017 at 06:37:22 AM
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Like I said, no matter what the format is someone will complain... That was some of the best racing from heat to features I've seen but people are always gonna gripe.



BlakeAnderson
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July 17, 2017 at 10:16:48 AM
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The draw is 100% completely random.  Its done at the WoO trailer and they use a bingo roller. 



ilikeposse
July 18, 2017 at 05:17:33 AM
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Schatz was in flight "B" on Friday night (went out no better than 27th) and still had quick time overall.  Went out 1st Saturday, still quick time.  Doesn't matter what pill they draw.  This topic is dumb




saphead
July 18, 2017 at 06:40:24 AM
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When Schatz is getting ready to draw they pull the low numbers out of a freezer and put them in the drum so he can feel which one to pull. Look up the 1985 NBA Draft. 

 

 

wink

 

 



GTigers55
July 18, 2017 at 07:20:53 AM
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Posted By: ilikeposse on July 18 2017 at 05:17:33 AM

Schatz was in flight "B" on Friday night (went out no better than 27th) and still had quick time overall.  Went out 1st Saturday, still quick time.  Doesn't matter what pill they draw.  This topic is dumb



+1, Also Schatz went out 32nd out of 54 scheduled.



jwerkman
July 18, 2017 at 01:41:46 PM
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what about the year in knoxville where he went out dead last and got 200 points

 


 


BigRightRear
July 18, 2017 at 02:59:37 PM
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There is no "gimmick" to Schatz beating the current class of 410 racers at major events...but there might be once he has the FORD POWER PLANT!

 

 


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