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June 12, 2017 at
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No 360's at the Kings Royal again this year.................what the hell is the guy making the schedule thinking. To me that is some of the best winged sprint car racing that track has, at least its not follow the leader like most 410 shows. and Eldora only has them on the schedule 1 time this year maybe they need to take lessons from knoxville.
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June 12, 2017 at
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I disagree.... I am happy to see them pull of the 360's from the Kings Royal (they did it last year as well). We don't need support classes for big events as Knoxville Nationals, National Open, Gold Cup and many more dont have support clases.
Regarding your take lessons from Knoxville comment, Eldora did which is why they removed the 360's for this big event!
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June 12, 2017 at
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With fewer cars turning laps the track will stay in better shape!
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June 12, 2017 at
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Watched the videos from the Dream race and it looked like the LM's had some fantastic racing at the Big E.
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June 12, 2017 at
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Now that the Kings Royal car counts are just about back where they need to be, the 360's really aren't needed anymore.
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June 13, 2017 at
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Saphead car counts are lower with out support class.......2015 kings royal 57 cars...2016 kings royal 42 cars not to mention the stand were not packed last year also. I guess i have to disagree with you I would rather get my moneys worth and watch 2 winged sprint car shows for the high cost of admission. You also get to see guys run both classes, the 360 race is usually a better race, not so much follow the leader.
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June 13, 2017 at
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Posted By: mrbig on June 13 2017 at 07:04:45 AM
Saphead car counts are lower with out support class.......2015 kings royal 57 cars...2016 kings royal 42 cars not to mention the stand were not packed last year also. I guess i have to disagree with you I would rather get my moneys worth and watch 2 winged sprint car shows for the high cost of admission. You also get to see guys run both classes, the 360 race is usually a better race, not so much follow the leader.
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Huh? 60 cars were at the King's Royal last year. Try again.
http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/event_coverage/33rd-annual-kings-royal/
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June 13, 2017 at
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60 was the count last year. I went for first time. With a full show of hotlaps, qualifying & racing all in one night, 1 class was plenty with 60 cars. The racing was great also. Not going this year as I am going to last 2 nights of Knoxville, but I will watch online if they do the PPV thing again.
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June 13, 2017 at
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Posted By: mrbig on June 13 2017 at 07:04:45 AM
Saphead car counts are lower with out support class.......2015 kings royal 57 cars...2016 kings royal 42 cars not to mention the stand were not packed last year also. I guess i have to disagree with you I would rather get my moneys worth and watch 2 winged sprint car shows for the high cost of admission. You also get to see guys run both classes, the 360 race is usually a better race, not so much follow the leader.
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Stands were packed last year, not sure what race you attended.
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June 13, 2017 at
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As a fan planning a trip to the Royal and BDC in 2017, my thoughts are these races don't need a support class and it's actually a deterrent for me if they do.
We won't be camping, so we will have a drive following the races every night to a hotel, if the Big E is adding the 360's just to make sure there are more cars there and to make the show longer, I'm not interested as it will be plenty late getting to the hotel anyway.
King's Royal, Knoxville Nationals, National Open don't need a support class. I think the fan count has proven that these events don't need that support class. Events that are trying to build up car counts and become major events are completely different. I know the Ironman has a support class, but given the timing of the event and it's relatively short history, it isn't to the point where car counts are high enough to do away with the support class.
I believe the Outlaws at Devil's Bowl has grown enough to not have a support class (never been there, so don't know if they do or not).
IMO, the 360 Nationals is also getting to that point (allthough there are those will argue that without the 305's during the final night that we'd all be home before dark).
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June 13, 2017 at
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Posted By: vande77 on June 13 2017 at 08:08:33 AM
As a fan planning a trip to the Royal and BDC in 2017, my thoughts are these races don't need a support class and it's actually a deterrent for me if they do.
We won't be camping, so we will have a drive following the races every night to a hotel, if the Big E is adding the 360's just to make sure there are more cars there and to make the show longer, I'm not interested as it will be plenty late getting to the hotel anyway.
King's Royal, Knoxville Nationals, National Open don't need a support class. I think the fan count has proven that these events don't need that support class. Events that are trying to build up car counts and become major events are completely different. I know the Ironman has a support class, but given the timing of the event and it's relatively short history, it isn't to the point where car counts are high enough to do away with the support class.
I believe the Outlaws at Devil's Bowl has grown enough to not have a support class (never been there, so don't know if they do or not).
IMO, the 360 Nationals is also getting to that point (allthough there are those will argue that without the 305's during the final night that we'd all be home before dark).
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Yo Vande, keep coming East after the Royal and hit the SIlver Cup at Lernerville Tuesday after KR. No support class, $25k to win...also could keep going East and hit Summer Nats at the Grove. Make for a hell of a 10 day Racer trip from BDC to Summer Nats 
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June 13, 2017 at
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Posted By: vande77 on June 13 2017 at 08:08:33 AM
As a fan planning a trip to the Royal and BDC in 2017, my thoughts are these races don't need a support class and it's actually a deterrent for me if they do.
We won't be camping, so we will have a drive following the races every night to a hotel, if the Big E is adding the 360's just to make sure there are more cars there and to make the show longer, I'm not interested as it will be plenty late getting to the hotel anyway.
King's Royal, Knoxville Nationals, National Open don't need a support class. I think the fan count has proven that these events don't need that support class. Events that are trying to build up car counts and become major events are completely different. I know the Ironman has a support class, but given the timing of the event and it's relatively short history, it isn't to the point where car counts are high enough to do away with the support class.
I believe the Outlaws at Devil's Bowl has grown enough to not have a support class (never been there, so don't know if they do or not).
IMO, the 360 Nationals is also getting to that point (allthough there are those will argue that without the 305's during the final night that we'd all be home before dark).
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Hope you enjoy The Doty and Kings Royal. Been going to all of them (for the most part) the past 8 years and it is probably my favorite week of racing all year.
I liked the 360 when they were a part of the Kings Royal but I am NOT sad to see them go. The racing was great and everything but the night of the Kings Royal everything would not be finished until after 1am (excluding 2015 because of the rain). That isn't a problem for me because I will stay at an event till 3am if I have to as long as there is something on the track but a lot of people around 11pm would start getting a little riled up that neither feature was on the track yet.
With The Doty having nearly 60 cars every year and The Kings Royal getting around that much now I don't see much need for a support class. I remember last year talking to my buddy at the Knight Before saying that it was probably the biggest crowd we had seen for the Friday race ever. I enjoy support classes whether it be 360s, 305s, modifieds whatever but certain events we can do without them.
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June 13, 2017 at
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For years, back some time ago the 360's put on a more exciting show virtually every night they were partnered with the W of O's. Tim Allison was the show on most nights as it seems he came from somewhere in the field and ran most everybody down, him and Joey Saldana were likely my two favorite drivers there not named Swindell....
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June 13, 2017 at
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Posted By: vande77 on June 13 2017 at 08:08:33 AM
As a fan planning a trip to the Royal and BDC in 2017, my thoughts are these races don't need a support class and it's actually a deterrent for me if they do.
We won't be camping, so we will have a drive following the races every night to a hotel, if the Big E is adding the 360's just to make sure there are more cars there and to make the show longer, I'm not interested as it will be plenty late getting to the hotel anyway.
King's Royal, Knoxville Nationals, National Open don't need a support class. I think the fan count has proven that these events don't need that support class. Events that are trying to build up car counts and become major events are completely different. I know the Ironman has a support class, but given the timing of the event and it's relatively short history, it isn't to the point where car counts are high enough to do away with the support class.
I believe the Outlaws at Devil's Bowl has grown enough to not have a support class (never been there, so don't know if they do or not).
IMO, the 360 Nationals is also getting to that point (allthough there are those will argue that without the 305's during the final night that we'd all be home before dark).
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The Outlaws do have a support class at Devils Bowl. They run the local limited modified class in a special invitational race. In the case of Devils Bowl it probably is needed. The car counts generally are in the upper 20's and so any revenue from the pit gate is probably limited. The limited modifieds are the only class running the Bowl weekly that has a decent car count, so I'm sure that's the reason they run that particular class. Personally I'd rather see the support class be a sprint car class. It would probably have to be 305s though, and Devils Bowl only has a handful.
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June 13, 2017 at
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Posted By: vande77 on June 13 2017 at 08:08:33 AM
As a fan planning a trip to the Royal and BDC in 2017, my thoughts are these races don't need a support class and it's actually a deterrent for me if they do.
We won't be camping, so we will have a drive following the races every night to a hotel, if the Big E is adding the 360's just to make sure there are more cars there and to make the show longer, I'm not interested as it will be plenty late getting to the hotel anyway.
King's Royal, Knoxville Nationals, National Open don't need a support class. I think the fan count has proven that these events don't need that support class. Events that are trying to build up car counts and become major events are completely different. I know the Ironman has a support class, but given the timing of the event and it's relatively short history, it isn't to the point where car counts are high enough to do away with the support class.
I believe the Outlaws at Devil's Bowl has grown enough to not have a support class (never been there, so don't know if they do or not).
IMO, the 360 Nationals is also getting to that point (allthough there are those will argue that without the 305's during the final night that we'd all be home before dark).
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I've never been to Ironman yet, but to me POWRi midgets are one of the main reasons I want to go...
Plus its supposed to be a highly competitive bullring
I have no idea how long the race takes
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June 13, 2017 at
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No support class, I'm not going. KR did the same thing years ago (TV purpose I think) I stopped then untill they brought 360's back and now I've stopped going again. Just not what I want from my dirt track racing. I'm sure they won't miss me, and it doesn't bother me that some prefere not to have support classes.
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June 14, 2017 at
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Unfortunately 360's are on life support in OH and MI as they are barely getting 20 cars at Lima and NRA/GLSS shows. Imagine with UNOH selling the series last year to Ron Hammons is probably why you have seen Eldora pretty much drop the NRA. Most of those shows in the past would be scheduled to keep the UNOH sponsorship at Eldora rolling.
To the point I agree no supporting class needed for the Royal.
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