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April 30, 2017 at
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Apparently someone is questioning the Kreitz team's character. Allstar officials had the 69K's engine pumped after last night's feature at Port Royal.
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April 30, 2017 at
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No, that is standard with the All Stars. We pump the Top 3 finishers engines at over half of our races.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: BlakeAnderson on April 30 2017 at 01:02:40 PM
No, that is standard with the All Stars. We pump the Top 3 finishers engines at over half of our races.
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Didn't know that...thanx for the feedback.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: railfan33 on April 30 2017 at 01:05:52 PM
Didn't know that...thanx for the feedback.
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Are they questioning the wing? I saw a tweet from Krietz mentioning that.
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April 30, 2017 at
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That is great you pump the motors, but when is the last time any fuel was checked or tire samples taken? Heck just even a simple check and measurement of the top wing. And the impossible to find traction control. And as far as checking the engines does it really matter to pump after the race that is when the track is the most dry and less power is needed. The reason I say why check after the race a team could change the engine after time trials so do you pump that engine? Because the terrible All Star format is all based on time trials.
I am not saying Davey Sr, Donald and Lance are cheating because their experience could fill many books but also that experience would alsohelp them know how and when to cheat. They are 24/7 racers no tech man short of Nascar can keep up the only good tech man would be a former top crew chief or racer.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Lol. Step away and Go outside and enjoy the weather
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April 30, 2017 at
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I watched them take tire samples Friday night. People need to chill. Is it really that surprising these guys are doing so well? Not to me it isn't.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Did somebody just float the idea of a competitor trying to secretly swap a motor in between races?! LMAO.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Me and larryitis made our first trip to PA for this weekend. This really is just the dream team. They are fast every single time they hit the track. Even if they swapped motors between qualifying and the heat it wouldn't have mattered. The 69k drove from 3rd to 1st with ease in the dash. The thought that this team is cheating is absolutely asinine. They are just that much better than everyone else right now. Not to mention Freddie Rahmer damn near won the feature at the Grove on Friday night. We witnessed them taking tire samples in a very careful matter. This isn't a cheap tire testing. They have viles and sealed envelopes that are sent to labs to have checked. This is a very professional operation (Both the 69k and the ASCoC).
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April 30, 2017 at
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Oh please....
"don't start no shit, won't be no shit"......
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April 30, 2017 at
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Ya they must be cheating because there's no way that one of the best sprint car drivers of all time is winning races with one of the best crew chiefs of all time driving for one of the best race teams in Pa history.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: revjimk on April 30 2017 at 03:18:30 PM
Oh please....
"don't start no shit, won't be no shit"......
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No Shit! Davey Sr....50 years plus experience.......Lance.....30 years experience.....Donnie.....30 years experience.....and all three winners! Who can match that experience level ....nobody. For them not to be the team to beat would be a big surprize. Glad to see them get the recognition they ALL DESERVE and the WINS they've EARNED!!! (just guessing on the total years for all three....prob pretty close)
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April 30, 2017 at
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: racer goin broke on April 30 2017 at 01:16:41 PM
That is great you pump the motors, but when is the last time any fuel was checked or tire samples taken? Heck just even a simple check and measurement of the top wing. And the impossible to find traction control. And as far as checking the engines does it really matter to pump after the race that is when the track is the most dry and less power is needed. The reason I say why check after the race a team could change the engine after time trials so do you pump that engine? Because the terrible All Star format is all based on time trials.
I am not saying Davey Sr, Donald and Lance are cheating because their experience could fill many books but also that experience would alsohelp them know how and when to cheat. They are 24/7 racers no tech man short of Nascar can keep up the only good tech man would be a former top crew chief or racer.
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Ok, lets think about this for a second.
Donny Kreitz HOF driver. Kings Royal winner and one of the best to come outta central PA.
Davey Brown HOF crew chief. One of the best ever and has worked with guys whos name ended with Wolfgan.
Lance Dewease while not in HOF yet, he's a lock. Many Tuscarora 50 wins and one of the best National Open records of any driver.
So before you question these guys' integrity with zero proof and give this statement any real credence let's consider this. You might make yourself look like a total fucking moron and troll game given the three individuals you are speaking about. Not saying the OP believes this or not but anybody that would the above applies.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: larryitis on April 30 2017 at 02:24:02 PM
I watched them take tire samples Friday night. People need to chill. Is it really that surprising these guys are doing so well? Not to me it isn't.
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Exactly. I love it that a team which the median age of its members has to be 20+ years older than most of the other teams out there.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Hey this is off topic abit but did Don ever run a stock car? I can't find anything on the www but I seem to remember a #69 arca car or busch car from back in the day in the familiar blue colors but Maybe I'm just going crazy in my old age.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on April 30 2017 at 01:13:26 PM
Are they questioning the wing? I saw a tweet from Krietz mentioning that.
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https://twitter.com/KreitzRacing69K/status/858691665476931584
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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Posted By: ryanhunsinger on April 30 2017 at 06:32:53 PM
Hey this is off topic abit but did Don ever run a stock car? I can't find anything on the www but I seem to remember a #69 arca car or busch car from back in the day in the familiar blue colors but Maybe I'm just going crazy in my old age.
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He did, the year after he won the Kings Royal in the mid 80's. I think he only ran it a year and then came back to Sprint Cars.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: ryanhunsinger on April 30 2017 at 06:32:53 PM
Hey this is off topic abit but did Don ever run a stock car? I can't find anything on the www but I seem to remember a #69 arca car or busch car from back in the day in the familiar blue colors but Maybe I'm just going crazy in my old age.
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At the very start of his career, in the late 1970s, Kreitz Jr. followed his father into Northeast dirt Modifieds. He quickly moved to URC, then 410s, however. Kreitz did run some Busch races in 1987. He has mentioned in interviews that it cost him a bunch of money when he gave up on the Busch effort and went back to Sprint Car racing exclusively.
As for the cheating conspiracy claims in this thread, why wouldn't Dewease and Kreitz have been cheating during some of the lean years each of them went through prior to teaming up together? There were more than a few voices out there that Dewease was washed up based on his recent results prior to last season.
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: Truth teller on April 30 2017 at 06:42:26 PM
At the very start of his career, in the late 1970s, Kreitz Jr. followed his father into Northeast dirt Modifieds. He quickly moved to URC, then 410s, however. Kreitz did run some Busch races in 1987. He has mentioned in interviews that it cost him a bunch of money when he gave up on the Busch effort and went back to Sprint Car racing exclusively.
As for the cheating conspiracy claims in this thread, why wouldn't Dewease and Kreitz have been cheating during some of the lean years each of them went through prior to teaming up together? There were more than a few voices out there that Dewease was washed up based on his recent results prior to last season.
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They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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April 30, 2017 at
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Posted By: railfan33 on April 30 2017 at 12:45:52 PM
Apparently someone is questioning the Kreitz team's character. Allstar officials had the 69K's engine pumped after last night's feature at Port Royal.
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There's this thing in racing called post race tech.
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