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Defender???.........I prefer mythbuster Mikey. LOL!! Franek made the show the final night and finished 15th I believe.........more fictional uneducated obsevations from the north. Look before you speak. Need more???........just keep speaking and they'll come to you. No hate here Mikey, I'm simply tired of the fiction.

3 words cut just like a cartoon once posted on here followed by a 3 minute infantile rant on the phone Mikey..........remember?? Take what you dish and all will be well.

"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

Beginning of 2007 Posse Schedule...

Jan 30- East Bay
Feb 1- East Bay
Feb 3- Volusia
Feb 6- Volusia All-Stars
Feb 7- Volusia All-Stars
Feb 8- Volusia All-Stars
Feb 9- Volusia WoO
Feb 10- Volusia WoO
Feb 11- Volusia WoO

Link to Fred Rahmer Schedule...

Link to Lance Dewease Schedule...

Link to Greg Hodnett: Taking Florida by Storm...

My bad for not paying attention AGAIN, lol. I only saw the top ten and had forgot the names anyway, that's how important it was, but apparently it was to you and I apologize. It will be fun this year knowing I have someone to correct me, might have to tease you (error favoring the Posse) every once in a while to boot, lol.

Jesse won last night and I have no idea if your boys were there or not and I promise not to ask about it or comment on it, deal. I most enjoy the give and take in a debate and I think you know that, to be honest I look forward to it, until it gets personal/silly. I will try and engage at a higher level and less personal with references. Take It Easy....

Thanks Cubic. Dick Butkus is my all-time favorite athlete so that 51 on Freddy ain't all that bad. Being deeply Irish, Michael Stephen Patrick Nelligan, family is from Linerick, IRE I have to like the paint scheme of Lance's. Greg Hodnett, who can't like him, a class act, smart guy and helluva athlete. Now where is Shep Dog, Maryland Posse counts to, doesn't it? Should be a good season in Central PA this summer even without the 3 old stand-bys for years (12, 77, 88). Enjoy and support your local racers, Take It Easy.....

Lucas Wolfe DNQ, Buckwalter 18th. Apology accepted.

Tease me all you like, I can take it.........I will appreciate your future accuracy with the facts.

"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

WTF?  Does this mean the soap opera is officially over for now?  Boredom is setting in quickly.  Guess I'll just check back after the first scheduled winged 410 race in Florida.  Surely the sh*t storm will start again......surely?

Deal, you're no longer on 'the squad' if you know what I mean, lol. Not the firing squad either, you're probably still on that one, oops. I will try and pay more attention in class as well.

Good for Lucas, if he is to broaden his scope then the wingless stuff is the way to go, hate to say it but we both know it's true.

My fingers are tired.  But I must tell you that I am a charter member of the squad.

"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

I spent years on the road with the Outlaws, I know how tough it is to win there. If you can win a single race on the road with them you are doing great. I do not believe that somebody (Posse) is capable of winning at an 'extremely well' level though and that is the expression I replied to.

20% success against these guys is very good but it ain't the 80% that some clowns think it is and act like. You have the most 410 tracks in the country, the most 410 racing in the country and for years some of the best financed weekly cars in the country. That combined with the fact that the Grove is very tough to tame is why you had the success rate you did, period end of story. I will repeat that in my opinion nobody would have a level of success called 'extrememly well', hardly an ignorant statement but merely one based on facts. The Posse has raced the Outlaws in many places and will race them at a few more in the next couple of weeks, I will rest my case 'till then and we will let the numbers tell us the deal. Take It Easy....

PS Saying that "no Posse driver would ever be successful on the road" is an ignorant thing to say I agree, however, YOU were the one to say it, not me....let it go.....

From the "Sprint Car Capital of the World". Not too gooda stats vs the WoO. Maybe they should get off the porch more to better their skills...

Aug 9 1978 Doug Wolfgang - Speedway Motors #4x

Aug 10 1978 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Aug 12 1978 - Doug Wolfgang - Speedway Motors #4x

Apr 21 1979 - Sammy Swindell - Jeffrey #91

Aug 8 1979 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Aug 9 1979 - Main event rained out Tim Green

Aug 10 1979 - Gary Patterson - Aden #4J

Aug 11 1979 - Ron Shuman - Stanton #75A

Apr 19 1980 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Apr 20 1980 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

May 30 1980 - Doug Wolfgang - Howells #4

May 31 1980 - Doug Wolfgang - Howells #4

Aug 14 1980 - Mike Brooks - Annett #12

Aug 15 1980 - Sammy Swindell - Jeffery #19

Aug 16 1980 - Doug Wolfgang - Howells #4

Aug 17 1980 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Sep 20 1980 - Tim Green

Apr 18 1981 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

May 22 1981 - Doug Wolfgang - Howells, Inc. #4

May 23 1981 - Sammy Swindell - Nance #1n

Jul 22 1981 - Sammy Swindell - Nance #1n

Aug 12 1981 - Jack Hewitt - Watson #78

Aug 13 1981 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Aug 14 1981 - Tom Corbin - Deryetcalf #22

Aug 15 1981 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Sep 12 1981 - Doug Wolfgang - Howells, Inc. #4

Apr 17 1982 - Doug Wolfgang - Howells Inc. #4

Jul 21 1982 - Danny Smith - Spurlock #18

Aug 12 1982 - Jimmy Sills - Bailey Bros #01

Aug 13 1982 - Doug Wolfgang - Stanton #75

Aug 14 1982 - Rick Weld

Aug 15 1982 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11

Apr. 16 1983 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Jul 27 1983 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Aug 10 1983 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 11 1983 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a

Aug 12 1983 - Rick Montgomery

Aug 13 1983 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Oct 15 1983 - Keith Kaufmann - Hamilton #77

Oct 16 1983 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Apr 28 1984 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Suiter #18

Apr 29 1984 - Rained Out

Jul 25 1984 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Aug 5 1984 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Aug 6 1984 - Brad Doty - Stanton 75

Aug 7 1984 - Dave Blaney

Aug 8 1984 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29

Apr 27 1985 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Apr 28 1985 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Aug 14 1985 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29

Aug 15 1985 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 16 1985 - Brad Doty - Pack #4a

Aug 16 1985 - Tim Gee - G & G #88g

Aug 16 1985 - Max Dumesny - Trostle #20

Aug 17 1985 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29

Oct 4 1985 - Dave Blaney - Bishop #2

Oct 5 1985 - Brad Doty - Pack #4a

Oct 6 1985 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29

Apr 25 1986 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Apr 26 1986 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1

Jun 25 1986 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jul 23 1986 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 14 1986 - Dave Blaney - Stanton #40

Aug 15 1986 - Brad Doty - Marks/Kepler #18

Aug 16 1986 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Apr 24 1987 - Brad Doty - Marks-Kepler #18

Apr 25 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jul 22 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jul 22 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 15 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

April 29 1988 - Mark Kinser - Reid #6r

April 30 1988 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

June 22 1988 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug. 10 1988 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Luna #10

Aug. 11 1988 - Dave Blaney - Nott #48

Aug. 12 1988 - Doug Wolfgang - Kepler #18

Aug. 13 1988 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Apr 28 1989 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Apr 29 1989 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Jun 23 1989 - Doug Wolfgang - Peace #8d

Jun 24 1989 - Doug Wolfgang - Peace #8d

Aug 16 1989 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 17 1989 - Doug Wolfgang - Peace #8d

Aug 18 1989 - Jerry Richert, Jr

Aug 19 1989 - Doug Wolfgang - Peace #8d

Apr 29 1990 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Apr 29 1990 - Doug Wolfgang - Williams #8

Jun 22 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jun 23 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jul 25 1990 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Aug 15 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 16 1990 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Aug 17 1990 - Jim Bell, Jr. - Bell #3BG

Aug 16 1990 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1A

Apr 26 1991 - Doug Wolfgang - Rogers #49

Apr 27 1991 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jun 21 1991 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Jun 22 1991 - Doug Wolfgang - Rogers #49

Jul 24 1991 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 14 1991 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 15 1991 - Kenny Jacobs - Wintermyer #1w

Aug 16 1991 - Tommie Estes, Jr - Gilliam #29G

Aug 17 1991 - Steve Kinser Kinser #11

Apr 25 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Apr 26 1992 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Jun 19 1992 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Jun 20 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jul 22 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 12 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 13 1992 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1

Aug 14 1992 - Gary Brazier - Brazier #21AU

Aug 15 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Sep 25 1992 - Tim Monson - Monson #6m

Sep 25 1992 - Dave Blaney - Chupp #7C

Sep 26 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Apr 30 1993 - Danny Lasoski - Forbrook #5

Jun 26 1993 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Jun 27 1993 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Aug 19 1993 - Dave Blaney - Luna #10

Aug 20 1993 - Stevie Smith - Hamilton #77

Aug 21 1993 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Sep 24 1993 - Stevie Smith - Hamilton #77

Apr 29 1994 - Dave Blaney - Luna #10

Jun 18 1994 - Main event from Apr 30th cancelled due to rain

Jun 24 1994 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jun 25 1994 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jul 20 1994 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 17 1994 - Andy Hillenburg - Hillenburg #2

Aug 18 1994 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Aug 19 1994 - Greg Hodnett - Two Winners #8TW

Aug 20 1994 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Sep 23 1994 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Apr 28 1995 - Danny Lasoski - Sonner #47

Apr 29 1995 - Cancelled due to thunderstorms. Rescheduled for May 6th.

May 6 1995 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Jun 23 1995 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Jun 24 1995 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Jul 19 1995 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 161995 - Andy Hillenburg - Hillenburg #2

Aug 17 1995 - Danny Lasoski - Hamilton #77

Aug 18 1995 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Aug 19 1995 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Sep 27 1995 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Apr 26 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Apr 27 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Jun 21 1996 - Stevie Smith - Motter #71M

Jun 22 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Jun 22 1996 - Jeff Swindell - 2 Winners #7TW

Jul 24 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Aug 14 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Aug 15 1996 - Terry Mc Carl - Gray #51

Aug 16 1996 - Cancelled due to rain

Aug 17 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Apr 25 1997 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1

Apr 26 1997 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Jul 4 1997 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1

Jul 5 1997 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Jul 23 1997 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Aug 13 1997 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m

Aug 14 1997 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Aug 15 1997 - Gary Wright

Aug 17 1997 - Dave Blaney - Blaney/Hylton 10

Apr 24 1998 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Apr 25 1998 - Postponed to May 2nd due to rain

May 2 1998 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Jul 3 1998 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Jul 4 1998 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Jul 22 1998 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22

Aug 12 1998 - Jeff Swindell - Two Winners 104+

Aug 13 1998 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 14 1998 - Craig Dollansky - Gleason #21G

Aug 15 1998 - Danny Lasoski - Roth #83

Jul 2 1999 - Danny Lasoski - Roth #83

Jul 3 1999 - Danny Lasoski - Roth #83

Jul 21 1999 - Danny Lasoski - Roth #83

Aug 11 1999 - Craig Dollansky - Dollansky #7

Aug 12 1999 - Tyler Walker - Walker #35

Aug 13 1999 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1

Aug 14 1999 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Apr 28 2000 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1

Apr 29 2000 - Danny Lasoski - Roth Racing #83

Jun 30 2000 - Johnny Herrera - DOCC M'sports #20

Jul 1 2000 - Stevie Smith - Smith #19

Jul 19 2000 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 9 2000 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 10 2000 - Craig Dollansky - Karavan Racing #7

Aug 11 2000 - Keith Kaufman - Middleswarth #7K

Aug 12 2000 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M

Apr 27 2001 - Craig Dollansky - Karavan Racing #7

Apr 28 2001 - Danny Lasoski - Stewart/Lasoski #20L

Jun 29 2001 - Danny Lasoski - Stewart/Lasoski #20L

Jun 30 2001 - Stevie Smith - Smith #19

Jul 16 2001 - Jason Meyers

Aug 8 2001 - Danny Lasoski - Stewart/Lasoski #20L

Aug 9 2001 - Donny Schatz - Schatz #15

Aug 10 2001 - Manny Rockhold - Gould #02

Aug 11 2001 - Danny Lasoski - Stewart/Lasoski #20L

Apr 26 2002 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Jun 28 2002 - Danny Lasoski - Stewart #20

Aug 7 2002 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Aug 8 2002 - Donny Schatz - Schatz #15

Aug 9 2002 - P.J. Chesson - Chesson #76

Aug 10 2002 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11

Apr 25, 2003 – Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

Apr 26, 2003 – Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

Jul 4, 2003 – Steve Kinser – Kinser #11

Jul 5 2003 – Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

Aug 14 2003 – Donny Schatz – Schatz #15

Aug 14 2003 - Steve Kinser – Kinser #11

Aug 16 2003 - Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

May 1 2004 – Mark Kinser – Roth #83

Jun 25 2004 – Joey Saldana – Woodward #2

Jun 26 2004 – Craig Dollansky – Karavan #7

Aug 11 2004 – Tim Kaeding – Roth #83

Aug 12 2004 - Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

Aug 14 2004 - Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

Apr 29 2005 - Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20

Apr 30, 2005 - Steve Kinser – Kinser #11

Jun 24 2005 - Kraig Kinser – Kinser #11k

Aug 10 2005 – Fred Rahmer – Harz 88H

Aug 12 2005 – Shane Stewart – Rudeen #26

Aug 14 2005 - Kraig Kinser – Kinser #11k

Jun 23 2006 – Joey Saldana – Kahne #9

Jun 24 2006 - Cancelled due to rain

Aug 9 2006 – Fred Rahmer – Klein #22

Aug 10 2006 – Jason Johnson – Rowe #41

Aug 11 2006 – Calvin Landis – Landis #70

Aug 12 2006 – Donny Schatz – Schatz #15

Oct 7 2006 – Donny Schatz – Schatz #15

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Stevie Smith wins at KVILLE in a POSSE CAR?

how can this be?

didn't he win the MOST WoO races a few years back in the family 19?

i hear crickets....

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Wolfgang, Brooks, Corbin, Dollansky, Green, Richert Jr. Lasoski, Hererra, all former Knoxville regulars, thanks for the memmories. Stevie had a great W of O career, thank God he was smart enough to leave the porch and share his talents for the country to see. Sadly though, he is about the only one from your area to ever achieve such, hmmmmm. Having said that, the G-Man was well on his way though.

Midget, stop embarassing yourself, BRR has the title from your area and he proves it on a regular basis he won't be handing it over anytime soon. The only thing you got right and not out of context was the fool part, I'd let it go at that and consider yourself a success now, okay?

Are we through here yet, lol? Take It Easy.....

http://www.hammerdownusa.com/1998cap.htm

deal with it...

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

LOL! Don't take it so hard. All you have to do is go to the races, talk to both the WoO drivers and the Posse drivers (Or any other driver from anywhere, USA or Australia) and their crews and they'll tell you that the toughest places to race are Central Pa., California and Knoxville. You don't need Nelligan's stats, opinions or personal agenda to be able to think on your own. I've talked to at least 95% of the teams that compete in the WoO and Central Pa. at one point or another about this subject and they'll tell you this themselves. There is some AWESOME racing outside Central Pa. - You'd be a fool to think otherwise. It's a big country with alot of Sprint cars. Take it upon yourself to ask them, don't take what I've said - or anyone else - for granted. Form your own opinion and don't get mad at Mikey, he's just doing what he does best - push Posse fans buttons.

What I've learned through the years is:

The Pa. Posse drivers and teams respect the WoO more than any other racers - period.

The WoO drivers and teams respect the Pa. Posse more than any other - period.

There is much more respect between the teams than there will ever be on these message boards.

......word.

"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

You guys are U.F.B........

Good point without an attack Mike, nicely put. PA has ALWAYS been the toughest place in the country to compete in for the Outlaws, heck they made the 410 rule specifically coz' of that area. I've never denied that nor have I ever said that they have the most passionate fans in the country either. Heck, there's as many Kinser fans there as any other track outside of IN I've ever been to. People get way too emotional over this whole silliness and take to personal attacks and worse, none of them must ever go to any sporting events, dang! What was once a fun thing in chat rooms has really risen to heights it was never meant to be, nobody would be more happy than me to let it all go.

It would appear we might see our first Posse winner of the year tonite at East Bay, won't bother me a bit but it might cause rioting in this forum, lol. A few more people need to learn how to type with tongue in cheek and a silly grin, this place would be fun like it was ten years ago. Take It Easy....

PS Come on Texan, win a 410 race down there and we can start all over.....