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April 05, 2007 at
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Everybody used traction control back then, who are you guys kidding and PA was just as guilty, don't be foolish. I sat in on a conversation where one Outlaw driver talked specifically about anothers win and actually laughed about it because he didn't have any that night. Locals were using it as well, if you had the $$$$ you tried it.
Superchuck, whether Danny was being sarcastic or funny doesn't matter, he said it and was stunned he didn't win. I am not outing Danny due to the fact that all of the guys knew about and most used or tried it, it wasn't a big deal. I've never repeated anything in confidence over the years and I was privy to enough info to have written a novel back then.
Here's a semi-summary of the race that night; A Feature (40 laps): 1. Lance Dewease [13] ($30,000); 2. Danny Lasoski [1] ($12,000); 3. Joey Saldana [4] ($7,500); 4. Craig Dollansky [5] ($5,000); 5. Todd Hestor [8] ($4,000); 6. Mark Kinser [18] ($3,520); 7. Fred Rahmer [23] ($3,220); 8. Tim Shaffer [10] ($2,750); 9. Sean Michael [3] ($2,300); As I remembered the top 5 was pretty much the same for the whole 40 laps and Fred, Mark and Greg passed a bunch of cars. Only somebody as naive as BRR with the best example of selective memmory on the planet would be dumb enough to believe his boys and not the bad guys, foolish as usual. Take It Easy....
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April 05, 2007 at
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Cubic is correct on several points in this thread. Traction control IS out there (see my pic).
It is also very likely Saldana is using some current technolgy from nascar. I went to a nascar parts aution a few weeks ago. They had some Chambon crankshafts for a cup car that were made in France. They were about a 3.200" stroke around 43 lbs and were rumored to have cost about $9000 each new. The mains are smaller than a stock 350 crank and the rod journals are an "IRL" rod journal. This is 1.850". A Honda rod journal is about 1.866 so they are really getting down there. The wrist pins are .787" diameter. They don't even run a bushing in the pin end of the rod. Force feed oiling through the length of the rod. Combine all this with ultra light pistons, light weight ti valves (even smaller valve stem diameter 7mm?) and other super light componets, and your looking at an engine that might come close to turning 10,000 rpm. At least 9000-9500. Of course this stuff doesn't live long, nor is it intended to. It's made to go about 500 miles + qualifying and maybe some practice. You can see some of these parts on ebay. Just look up carrillo rods.
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April 05, 2007 at
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April 05, 2007 at
12:43:41 PM by MoOpenwheel
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Posted By: gdude on April 05 2007 at 11:52:52 AM
Cubic is correct on several points in this thread. Traction control IS out there (see my pic).
It is also very likely Saldana is using some current technolgy from nascar. I went to a nascar parts aution a few weeks ago. They had some Chambon crankshafts for a cup car that were made in France. They were about a 3.200" stroke around 43 lbs and were rumored to have cost about $9000 each new. The mains are smaller than a stock 350 crank and the rod journals are an "IRL" rod journal. This is 1.850". A Honda rod journal is about 1.866 so they are really getting down there. The wrist pins are .787" diameter. They don't even run a bushing in the pin end of the rod. Force feed oiling through the length of the rod. Combine all this with ultra light pistons, light weight ti valves (even smaller valve stem diameter 7mm?) and other super light componets, and your looking at an engine that might come close to turning 10,000 rpm. At least 9000-9500. Of course this stuff doesn't live long, nor is it intended to. It's made to go about 500 miles + qualifying and maybe some practice. You can see some of these parts on ebay. Just look up carrillo rods.
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Cup engines turn 9000 for 500 miles every weekend. No reason a sprint engine can't do the same thing or even more. 30 miles a night. 5 nights on a rebuild. That's only 150 miles or so. They should be able to turn 10,000 for that long. Why wouldn't Kahne have that type of motor! Money is no object.
I'm just surprised Stewart's car isn't faster. That team shouldn't be lacking any technology. How much longer will Smoke take it. His cars win in every other series. But his WoO car hasn't been the one to beat for nearly 3 years. As competitive as he is it's hard to imagine him accepting that.
The top teams have always had a little more than the rest. These 'super' owners will just widen that gap even more.
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April 05, 2007 at
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POSSE splitting the top 10 as usual.
unheard of by locals in parts unknown...
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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April 07, 2007 at
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So, back to the original question , already... LMFAO.
Fenders are like vacuums... they both suck.
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April 07, 2007 at
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Posted By: gdude on April 05 2007 at 11:52:52 AM
Cubic is correct on several points in this thread. Traction control IS out there (see my pic).
It is also very likely Saldana is using some current technolgy from nascar. I went to a nascar parts aution a few weeks ago. They had some Chambon crankshafts for a cup car that were made in France. They were about a 3.200" stroke around 43 lbs and were rumored to have cost about $9000 each new. The mains are smaller than a stock 350 crank and the rod journals are an "IRL" rod journal. This is 1.850". A Honda rod journal is about 1.866 so they are really getting down there. The wrist pins are .787" diameter. They don't even run a bushing in the pin end of the rod. Force feed oiling through the length of the rod. Combine all this with ultra light pistons, light weight ti valves (even smaller valve stem diameter 7mm?) and other super light componets, and your looking at an engine that might come close to turning 10,000 rpm. At least 9000-9500. Of course this stuff doesn't live long, nor is it intended to. It's made to go about 500 miles + qualifying and maybe some practice. You can see some of these parts on ebay. Just look up carrillo rods.
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You're getting hot. Heard sprint car version was quite a bit lighter than that however? Remember when you could build a whole motor for that much...lol? Technological pipeline.....$400 million F-1 teams -> To $40 million NASCAR teams -> To $1.5 million WoO teams -> To your local dirt track for $3000-to-win.....Yipppeeee!!
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April 07, 2007 at
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Posted By: Coondog75 on April 04 2007 at 12:41:50 PM
If you all will look back, everybody that RICKY WARNER works for does this. Look back at the World of Outlaws new golden boy, Donnie Shazts last year. He won the Woo title, he dominated most of the year with Ricky Warner as crew cheif. This year the Shatzs team thought they did not need him. He went to Joey and now look at him. Ricky Warner is probably one of the sharpest guys out there on fuel and also setups. The guy is just pretty sharp.
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Ricky Warner is just a great wrench,your right about that.....he takes his job serious and that my friend is how he is. THERE NOT CHEATERS.....
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