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You've got to be f***ing kidding!!! I didn't realize that we had to profess belief in any specific deity in order to be a Sprint Car fan. LOL

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I agree with Duchess and Stan. What does your religous belief have to do with Sprint Car racing. This argument was hashed out on the R1 message board shortly after it happened. A couple weeks later with the Penthouse sponsorship again. I don't consider myself a tree hugging liberal or a hard core conservative. Just someone in the middle of the road that wants to make their own decisions without lecture from either.

The content in question in SC&M was a direct quote, right? How do you print a direct quote without stating exactly what was said? It's not like those were Auld's words.

I am a Christian, bible believing individual who loves sprint car racing. I for one do not think that anyone should be forced to believe one way or the other. That being said, it is my duty as a Christian to expose people to the Truth and let them make their own decisions. I do not force my beliefs on anyone. Just remember one thing, it is an eternal decision that is being made. You will either spend eternity seperated from God or you will spend eternity with God in Heaven. It's that simple!

One of my favorite quotes is this. "If you don't believe in God or places called Heaven & Hell, you better PRAY that your right! It's not that life is so short, it's that eternity is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long!"

Goddamn, can't we just all get along?

Who's truth are you exposing me to? Which God can I hope to spend eternity with? Yours, mine or someone else's? The quote can be used for Christians as well. If Christianity is the one true correct religion, why are their so many versions of it?

that's funny Kelly!

Hey, where's the Posse in this? Take It Easy....

Have they all gone SOUTH? real far south lol lol lol

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Separation of church and this forum. It's in the Constitution.

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As a webmaster of sorts I find it humorous that Google Adwords (with its contextual awareness) has keyed upon the tone of this thread and is showing religious themed ads in this thread

As far as the OP's topic - I am not an overly religious person but I try to live my life in accordance to the golden rule and the big 10 (commandments - not NCAA sports). I admit I swear as much as the next guy when amongst friends but make a conscious effort to avoid using the Lord's name in vain - it *does* sometimes slip out but usually when I am very angry or frustrated... and I never use it simply to emphasize a point. When around my friend's or my kids I keep my language "kid-friendly" and avoid swearing at all.

On that note I like T-Mac a lot but feel he used a poor choice of words in a public venue. Perhaps for comparison let's say your evening newscasters started off the news with "There was one Hell of a fire today downtown and 'GD-it' there were a bunch of people fried like sausages.They were fuc*ing toasted!". That may be how the newscasters talk amongst themselves around the station - but when they get on-air in front of the public they adhere to a different standard of acceptable speech. For another example -- say you were checking out at your local grocery store with your kids in tow and the register clerk says "Do you want fu*cking paper or 'GD' plastic?" or "Is that a debit or 'GD' credit?" -- not exactly appropriate speech for the circumstances right?

It's not so much what Terry said that I feel was inappropriate -- but rather where he said it -- in a public venue where there were children present. I don't care if he swears like a longshoreman in the pits with his crew -- but I'd rather he not do it around my 4 year old son. BTW - I've seen Terry interact with kids and he's great -- poses for pictures, gives them autographs and postercards and lets them sit in his car etc. -- he's one of the best with the youngsters. During "the interview incident" he was obviously pumped and perhaps suffered from a momentary lapse of good judgment.

Just my $.02

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this was just a couple of words who decided that "shit" was a bad word what makes it any different than "jello" for instance who really sat down and decided which words were "good" and which ones were "bad" and what gave them the right to make those decisions that is just something i have always wondered where it all started

All of this just confirms why I am agnostic. Dutchess can sit on.......errrr....near me any she wants :-). The only way to offend me is to attempt to convince me that Sammy doesn't, more often than not, act like a jerk when he decides to grace a racing event with this presence. Apparently Bulls Gap was the rare exception.

It is not my God or your god, it is THE GOD!  There is only one creator of all things, and to answer your question, it has nothing to do with religion.  It doesn't matter what religion you are as long as you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.  You could be any religion and still go to Heaven or Hell.

Almost 99% of all non-believers think salvation has to do with belonging to some certain religion, when in fact it has nothing to do with it.  The bible doesn't teach anything about being one religion or requiring you to believe in a certain religion to be saved from eternal death.

If you ever want to read a good book (besides the bible) try reading "Evidence that demands a verdict!".  It was written by a scholar who was a stuanch atheist before studying the evidence of bible.  Now he has written several books concerning salvation & eternal life. 

Nothing in the bible has ever been disproven, contradicted, or wrong.  The bible has scientific information in it that proves it was inspired by God like stating the fact that the earth was round many centuries before mankind ever believed it or could prove it.  How would anyone but the Creator have known the earth was round?

Anyway, people can choose to believe what they want.  If someone wants to spend eternity in Hell suffering torment & being seperated from their loving Creator, that is their "choice".  As long as they know the facts before they die, they can make any decision they wish.  Just remeber, you have until your last breath to decide, but after that your eternal destiny is sealed.  Choose wisely!

I'd still rather have Dutchess Jane sit as near to me as possible :-).

Yeah and about reading a good book, I have always been a fan of Judy Blume's "Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing." You know the one with Peter and his younger brother Fudgie that is always getting on Peters nerves. Good read check it out sometime!

I want to "read" it Wesmar, please don't color all of the pictures!

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Wow, now even religion  has been touched upon in this forum! Good job red states! And DJane I also don't hold it against you...I'm a carpet muncher myself from way back...lol.

When I go to a Vikings game I don't agonize over the religion of the people two sections over and three rows down. Likewise when I attend concerts or sit in a movie theater. Same goes for a Twins game, it's none of my business and I don't worry about the other fans.

I had a bad experience at the races a few years back. It was a big Late Model show and they had one of those "Outreach" tents in the pit area. One of those people got in my face and tried to pull me into the revival tent. Next thing you know they'll be passing out pamphlets in the campground. Now I don't have a problem with an invocation before the start of the program or if some racers want to get together in their hauler. The thing I have a problem with is preachers canvassing the pit area of a public sporting event. What's your typical evening of racing last from the time the haulers pull into the gate, six, eight hours? You mean to tell me their faith is so weak that they can't go to an evening of racing without setting up a portable revival tent?

We're having a big problem with the interpretation of the intent of the first amendment in this country in regards to religious freedom. The intent of the founders of the constitution was for citizens to have freedom to worship as they please without persecution or reprisal. Our founding fathers were not giving citizens the right to force their beliefs on others in every public setting imaginable, only to PRACTICE their chosen faith at home and in a place of worship. Somehow this has gotten twisted to the point where people now think it's their right to practice there religion anywhere anytime.

It's pretty sad when a person can't even go to the races without being preached at. Fortunately, that was the southern bible bangin' Late Model hillbilly crowd and I haven't run into this at the Sprint Car races yet. Let's hope it stays that way.

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you would learn the difference between "shit" and "jello" real fast if some one made a mistake bringing you your desert.