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Topic: USAC/CRA video highlights from Perris 6/7
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June 11, 2008 at
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"GO DANNY BOY TEAR UP SOME MORE CARS"
I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY USUC HAS NOT SAT HIM DOWN YET ?
OR CORY DID YOU SEE THE WAY HE WAS RUNNING INTO JOSH FORD SOME PEOPLE ILL TELL YOU !
OH AND DAMN FINE JOB GAUNT guess its a good thing rickie is a nice guy looked to me like he could have put danny boy on his head too
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June 11, 2008 at
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Posted By: turn4rob on June 10 2008 at 09:51:22 PM
are you saying that there is passing in an Outlaw race?who'da thunk it !!
ROB
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There is no passing and no slide jobs alowed in Outlaws its against the rules of Outlaw racing.
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June 11, 2008 at
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To ImissAscot
I Love you man, you are one funny guy
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June 11, 2008 at
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There is nothing laid out in rules or anywhere what constitutes a "clean" slide job. If you talk to 5 drivers, you will get 5 different opinions as to what makes a slide job "clean". Maybe I'm super old school but to me, the only clean slide job is one where the "passed" driver doesn't have to hit the brakes to miss the guy who just slid him. I do give a bit of a pass when the driver doing the sliding leaves room for the guy he just slid to come back around him if he didn't get clear. So under those criteria, none of the slide jobs talked about in the video was "clean". There was a time that block passing in motocross got you dumped upside down in the porta potty after the races but the block pass is now an accepted part of motocross. I suppose this sort of progression has also taken place in sprints/midgets.
I guess what bothers me the most with slide jobs is that the guy getting slid is going to be a victim to some degree. It's like walking down the sidewalk and somebody is standing in your way. You can move around them, you can push by them or you can kick them in the ding-ding, drop them where they stand and say "sorry". Each one of these choices generates differing levels of comment and impact upon the victim. Another bothersome thing about sliders is that 95% of the things that can happen are good for the slider and bad for the other guy. Unless you really, really botch it up, about the worst thing that happens to the guy who threw the slider is that he gets a flat right rear tire. I guarantee that if the slider has a flat right rear, the guy who he just "passed" has just begun a very bad day.
After seeing more of what passes for a slide job these days, I understand why Cary is trying to force the less protective nerf bars. Perhaps a compromise can be made to allow protective nerfers on the left side and the more "naked" ones on the right side. At least that way the guy doing the slider has a greater chance of doing damage to himself for a botched slide job and the slidee has a little protection from the slider who threw it in there and hoped it works out.
I don't see how Cardey could have done anything different he was leading the race and committed to running his line. If he hits the brakes hard enough to miss the other car, he still plugs it in the fence. Garrett did get into the back of Sheridan pretty hard but the only possible way that Sheridan saves it is if Garrett hits the brakes and gets off him. Yep, Cory tagged Josh good but Josh had to be slowing for something if he gets hit that hard that far back on the straightaway. Rickie's slider wasn't clean by my standards but hit did it in a way that allowed Cardey room to crossover and go back by him. In an otherwise dirty world, Rickie left him room so his slider was the cleanest of the dirty. Sheridan didn't leave room so that looked to be his fault.
And Wow, what a bunch of potty mouths on here. You kiss your loved ones with that mouth?
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June 11, 2008 at
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June 11, 2008 at
11:56:41 AM by KOP
Dang Richie, leave it to you to go and post a logical reply. You just had to break up the string of "junk replies" didnt you? LOL You going to Maria?
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June 11, 2008 at
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John,
Yes, I'm going to Santa Maria. Cory and most of the gang are on vacation and those crazy kids just want to race. Someone needs to be there to smack them in the back of the helmet when they get out of line.
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June 11, 2008 at
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Posted By: RichCee on June 11 2008 at 12:38:33 PM
John,
Yes, I'm going to Santa Maria. Cory and most of the gang are on vacation and those crazy kids just want to race. Someone needs to be there to smack them in the back of the helmet when they get out of line.
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I always took you for the kind of guy that beats up on kids. 
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June 11, 2008 at
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June 11, 2008 at
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Wanna bet that if the positions were reversed(Cardey crashed Sheridan), the Kittles and Danny would have been all up in arms about the "unnecessary" dirty driving and the failed slider?
I have spent a little time thinking about your question. I suppose no one will know what would of happened in your scenario, but Sheridan has been known to behave badly when situations are reversed and he is at the opposite end of an incident. My only real thought about your question is the way that David Cardey behaved following his flip. He reacted like a true professional and took the long walk back to his pits dejected and angry no doubt, but with no exhibition of either emotion. That to me was very impressive and the makings of a true "racer". Kudos to him and the Crossno team.
"When the green flag drops the bullshit stops" - The
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June 11, 2008 at
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are you saying that there is passing in an Outlaw race?who'da thunk it !!
ROB
Thats funny! LOL 
"When the green flag drops the bullshit stops" - The
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June 11, 2008 at
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People, please remember that there is a USAC web site where you can voice your concerns about any driver and or owner. I'm sure they would love to hear from you as manny times as possible. After all, that might just wake them up. Do not forget to talk about the fact that one Mike Spencer thinks it is in his job description to drive into the side of people like Cody Willams, Blake Miller, and Danny Sheridan repeatedly. Among many others. Enough of the bumper cars, we want the sprint cars to return. I would rather pay to watch a race with only 10 cars that are driven like humans rather than ever go to another race that includes the drivers of # 7 foremost, but also the 50 and 18. These people need to be excluded for some time and possibly for all time.
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June 11, 2008 at
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June 11, 2008 at
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Posted By: 1racerx on June 11 2008 at 07:40:33 PM
People, please remember that there is a USAC web site where you can voice your concerns about any driver and or owner. I'm sure they would love to hear from you as manny times as possible. After all, that might just wake them up. Do not forget to talk about the fact that one Mike Spencer thinks it is in his job description to drive into the side of people like Cody Willams, Blake Miller, and Danny Sheridan repeatedly. Among many others. Enough of the bumper cars, we want the sprint cars to return. I would rather pay to watch a race with only 10 cars that are driven like humans rather than ever go to another race that includes the drivers of # 7 foremost, but also the 50 and 18. These people need to be excluded for some time and possibly for all time.
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Are you kidding me?? You fellas out there in Southern California are a little too touchy when it comes to real racing I guess. I have watched you highlites for years and they are some great races and racers that have come along in those years. I think we may have some knee jerk reactionary folks getting all upset with the action last week. Watch some racing from out here in the midwest and you will see there is nothing wrong with hard racing and a little rubbing. That Spencer kid is looking like a great future star and so is Cardey and Sheridan too. They bring excitement and that is what is needed for the future of sprint car racing.
Cheers!
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June 12, 2008 at
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Posted By: 1racerx on June 11 2008 at 07:40:33 PM
People, please remember that there is a USAC web site where you can voice your concerns about any driver and or owner. I'm sure they would love to hear from you as manny times as possible. After all, that might just wake them up. Do not forget to talk about the fact that one Mike Spencer thinks it is in his job description to drive into the side of people like Cody Willams, Blake Miller, and Danny Sheridan repeatedly. Among many others. Enough of the bumper cars, we want the sprint cars to return. I would rather pay to watch a race with only 10 cars that are driven like humans rather than ever go to another race that includes the drivers of # 7 foremost, but also the 50 and 18. These people need to be excluded for some time and possibly for all time.
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Yeah they were right when they say everyone has their own opinion lol
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June 12, 2008 at
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1racerx: People, please remember that there is a USAC web site where you can voice your concerns about any driver and or owner.
USAC has a message board? I have been to their website many times, don't remember seeing a forum for comments about drivers or owners. If I missed it, please provide a link.
"When the green flag drops the bullshit stops" - The
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June 14, 2008 at
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As a video watcher only, here is what I saw. On the lap or laps before on the tape the 18 car Sheridan gave room to the 38 car Cardey. But this time over drove into the corner and couldn't get the car to turn to give room. Also the 38 car was on top full throttle and was not given room as he was the lap or laps before on the tape. To me that didn't look like a slide job. To far into the corner. That was on corner exit not on entry. A true slide job goes to the middle of the corner and to the top. If not it was a take out by the 18 car or an attempt at a block and was done way way wrong. But only cost the 38 car money for the broken parts. The 18 should have known he was slow in the corner and would be past on the outside by the 38 car as he was many laps before.
So the fault goes mostly to the 18 car for not giving room and some fault goes to the 38 car for not cutting under the 18 car and going by on the inside.
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June 15, 2008 at
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wow did I look at the same video??? Seems like the 18 had the same line and was sliding up into the top becuase he was trying to run the middle of the track. You could see that the 18 was comining up and he made a decision to try and pass before he was slid into. Hell all in all it was racing. should the 18 not have tried to pass....Hell no, race fast and hard that is what this sport is about. If the 38 was a little smarter he might have let up a litltle and diamond the corner and went under the 18. Ah who cares, I just wish I could see some 410 non winged racing in Northern Cali. OH wait at Calistoga I can....OH YA!!! Great to see Gaunt get the win!!!
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