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I heard that there is going to be a NCRA 305 class next year. Just wondering if anybody else has heard this. Thanks. LETS GO RACIN!!

Yes as it was announced here a couple of weeks ago. It will be the Sprint Series of Texas rules (SST) with the majority of the races held in Kansas. Their website can be found here http://www.sprintseriesoftexas.com/

More complete information should be made after the Labor Day weekend.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

Kansas already has the URSS. Is the NCRA trying to compete with the URSS or what? Just wondering. Thanks. LETS GO RACIN!!

That was what my question was going to be how close are the two in rules?

Knoxville is also having a big show for the 305's in September I think.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

410's to 360's now 305's huh? Next thing you know the NCRA will be running straight line 6 bangers. What was once a mighty proud sanctioning body is sure going down the drain!

How is NCRA going down the drain? They have their late model division which is averaging 32 cars a night through twelve events. Their 360 sprint series, which is not leaving, has had fourteen of sixteen drivers make all nine shows completed. Their modified series is still averaging close to thirty modifieds a show.

Next year NCRA will have the new 305 sprint series plus an NCRA/Oklahoma based modified division plus a sport mod division. NCRA is also working on a late model division for Southern Oklahoma/Northern Texas.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

Mighty Proud Sanctioning body? How bout respected, a sanctioning body that has probably been around longer than you been alive. You been quoted as saying "a stupid fan is one that sets at home watching Nascar and dosent support their local track", I say "a stupid fan is one that goes to the races and dosent even reconize the race right in front of him". There is alot more racin in this country than your "Precious Sprint Car". Good grief Sprint car people thinks the world evolves around them!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you need to ask yourself if your a true fan of "Motorsports" or are you just hung up on Sprint cars with big old training wheels?

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

That is good stuff JD.

I have no quarrel with those that sell for 
less....they know what their product is worth.

LOL I agree that is pretty good. Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

Please bring that "going down the drain NCRA racing" to the Oklahoma area. Just saw their sprint show in KS last weekend and those cars would be very competitive in the ASCS Sooner region.

I also only paid $8 for my ticket and was treated to an incredible atmosphere at 81 Speedway.

If you want to see "going down the drain" racing, come have to watch 8 champ sprints play follow the leader in Lawton every Sat. night for $10 per ticket. The only thing that saves that show is the mod. division.

Don't be jealous we get all the best fans and hottest chicks.

Not sure why the comments about the late models and modifieds you all made as I was addressing "sprint cars". That was the thread topic wasn't it? Sprint cars? I didn't utter a word about door slammers. Sorry, no offense LOL

Point was that the NCRA has unfortunately lost it's status over the years as a "quality" sprint car organization. If one thinks starting a 305 sprint class is going to get fans all excited and attend the races in bigger numbers, guess again. Hell, a 305 is nothing but a tick over a 283!

I can hear the advertisement now......" Come see 305 sprint cars do 0-80 mph in a week and a half." I would rather see NCRA put more focus in trying to improve the sprint class they already have, not dilly dally with the SLOWEST sprint class out there.

As for the comment: " a sanctioning body that has probably been around longer than you been alive." Guess again. Hate to admit it, but I'm older than the NCRA.

As more the comment: "Just saw their sprint show in KS last weekend and those cars would be very competitive in the ASCS Sooner region." On a good night, maybe. To win races over an ASCS car, not likely.

Here is the order of sprint cars in terms of their strength of power:

1) 410 ci

2) 360 ci / ASCS configuration

3) 360 ci / Powered down from ASCS specs (Multiple sanctions incl. NCRA)

4) 305 ci

You see some of the nations top marquee drivers run the top 2 classes. You will hardly find them run the bottom 2. Note I said 'hardly' not never.

As we're just talkin here, it sounds to me like that if it aint the fastest car out there they dont count. True the 410's may be the fastest but there is alot of teams that cant go that route with economy like it is today. Teams that run 305 put just as much effort in their program as anyone else and can use a sanctioning body like the NCRA to show what their efforts have accomplished. You can sure tell with your comments that your focus is on Sprint cars, With saying that Marquee Driver only run the top classes, A couple of points to use as an example, Have you ever heard of "Prelude to a Dream", Do you realize that we had NASCAR Drivers on the schedual at Muskogee and raced at 81 Speedway too in Modifieds. Sanctioning Bobies have to change with the times and if they dont they end up like the Outlaws. I think what the NCRA is doing shows that they will be around for years even if they dont cater to the upper classes. NCRA around here means something more than just Sprint Cars as they have sanctioned Modified and Late Models for a while and to say their going down the "Drain" made me want to find out more of your previous posts. I dont mind people talkin s...t on here {heck I do it all the time} but when I find some body with your focus.....well. You dont seem like that bad of a person, you just suffer from "Sprint Car Developemental Disabilities"! lol

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

LOL @ the SCDD syndrome comment. That was funny! Again....... My topic was strictly sprint cars because............Thats what the thread was about!

I'm not saying that NCRA needs to go back to 410's either. A little too late for that. What I was trying to point out by the sprint car power listings is that the NCRA seems to be focusing on the weaker class of cars when they should be looking to improve what they have. Instead of a having a "Firecracker 50" race, they may be looking at running the "Sparkler 25" one day. UGH!

Lets quit hiding behind your screen name. Everybody put your real name out there. All but you cheese, We no your under cover. Mike Gossman

Are we hiding? Wasn't aware of that. Gosh, wheres my manners? My name is: Jose Jimenez

I really dont think this guy is trying to hide, he's just from the SCRA forum, I've posted there before and its a pretty cool site. But he is diffinately a Spint Car Fan and maybe Non-wing at that. The only thing that he said to me that got this old "Rocket Mouth" of mine goin was "NCRA Down the Drain" when they have done their share around here to help keep our sport happen witch is one of my favorates. Nice to meet you Jose keep that s...t commin! Whats your Function at the Track?

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

Ncra has done alot for racing in these parts and people are very protective of it.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

When you look at the NCRA's history, which by the way predates WoO and the All Stars, it started out with 305 engines (302 Chevys and Fords) AND some straight line 6 bangers DID compete with them.  So yeah, maybe we are going back to the good old days!

I watched 305 sprints a couple of years ago for the first time at K-C Raceway in Ohio as a companion show to Ohio Sprint Weeks.  They weren't a bad show, even on a 3/8 mile. 

What I don't understand, as I look at 305 rules around the country, is why, if your trying to save a guy some money, do you put injectors on a 305?  You can get all the fuel you need thru a 500 cfm Holley.  Also, why do some insist on putting tall tires and/or 5x5 wings on them?  A 305 cubic inches will struggle to pull the big wing and the tall tire.  Nobody is running anyone's pull off tires, so don't kid yourself the way the Fairgrounds did when we had to run the same Goodyear 31.5s or McCreary 32s that the 1/2milers ran. 

I'd like to see a 305 class IF it had tires, wing and fuel system to match the smaller engine.

HM

The SST runs a sealed motor so technical that should save someone money but we all know what that means.

Knoxville is going to run a 305 show later on in Sept. If Knoxville is running a 305 show that has to tell you somtthing. I am a sprint car fan I will admit it but like every type of racing. The prices have become crazy to get started in. This kinda goes back to the promoters topic. If a promoter can delevlop a class and keep the rules the same and be strict about the rules I feel as if it will be a sucess. The NCRA has a market already there with the Kansas 305's so we have to see what happens.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen