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I just caught the last few lines on ESPN saying something about them telling the Toyota teams in the Nationwide series to cut back on horsepower.

What is with this? I thought the idea, within their guidelines, was to get the most HP you could out of a motor. I don't follow them but was wondering if Toyota is winning a lot?

Long ago gave up on trying to figure out their reasoning for many of their decisions.

Thanks, and have a good one.

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Nascar used to be somewhat entertaining to me but after a long list of things like this and their desire to create a WWE atmosphere in some of their broadcasts, it's lost appeal a very long time ago for me. Some people still enjoy it and more power to them for finding some kind of enjoyment from it but, like anything else that gets as big as it has in the "pop culture", I predict that it will suffer from a backlash as soon as people get tired of the ever changing "rules" and over saturated corporate garbage thats spewed non stop during their broadcasts.

Unfortunately, the IRL seems to be using it as a business model. The Danica tantrums quickly come to mind.

It has obviously become a spec series, identical cars with identically performing power plants, spec rear gears and spec shocks, go man go!

My interest in things NASCAR has been waning considerably in the last few years. I can't even recall the last time I invested time to watch an entire event, let alone record one.

cmakin,,, diddo,,, I think my interest subsided when the black 3 hit the turn 4 wall at Daytona in 01. Hasn't even come close to being the same since.

Attendance is down, boringness (is that a word?) is up. I watch and follow to keep up with Dave Blaney but that is about as far as my interest goes. If the IRL makes a good decision on their new car/engine combination a unified open-wheel series could steal a lot of the CRAPCAR audience. The Danica/Milka thing was horrible and I can't believe ABC and the IRL stooped to wrestling crap like that to boost TV shares.

NASCAR and Indy Cars stopped being about the racing years ago. Grass roots dirt track and short track racing should take heed and weigh the long term effects vs. short term solutions. In other words, know who you are, what your audience is and keep it real and about the racing.

it would be great to see toyota come out in the next few weeks finding 20 mor HP out of their newly restricted engines! that is not likely to happen as other teams have been pouting about toyotas supposed HP advantage for some time. nascar is not totally stupid, it waits till you think you have made all the gains you can thinking you are being allowed to make the best of what you have, then WHAM! the thing is nascar only changed the rules for the nationwide cars, at least that is the way i understand it as of now. also the rule is specifically designed to target engines above a certain bore spacing. therefore possibly stunting the desire for the other engine maufactures to make advancments in the direction toyota took.

Kind of a crock. Dumbing it down, just like the educational system has dumbed that down. Work harder and you will be rewarded by either being punished or given more work to do. I guess I am kind of like everybody else here. I used to enjoy watching Nascar but the last couple of years has left a really bad taste. I will watch if I am not doing anything else because there are several drivers that I really do enjoy...Stewart, Blaney, Kenseth, Schrader. But I sure don't watch it because I like the racing. And if there is something else going on like a good dirt race I won't even bother. Might check the results when I get a chance.

Give me a good sprint car race (winged or not) on dirt and I am there!

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What gets me is that, according the article on NASCAR’s web site, Ford & Chevy were roughly 20 HP behind Toyota (Toyota - 632 HP, Ford - 611 HP, Chevy - 612 HP). Yet Dodge was only 4 HP behind, (628 HP). IF they are trying to level the playing field, why didn’t they restrict Dodge too?

it seems in nascar, as well as on message boards, facts and resonable logic just get in the way of a good story!