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August 18, 2007 at
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Anyone have a race report from Ocean? Did BK win again?
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August 18, 2007 at
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August 18, 2007 at
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Yes, Bk won, 2nd Evan Suggs, 3rd Brad Furr
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August 18, 2007 at
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BK Qualified 68 Car for the Johnny Key Classic,Evan Suggs Qualified for The Johnny Key, along with Ronnie Day Qualifying the #39 Car. The Car Qualifys for The Key
Evan Suggs #33
Ronnie Day #39
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August 18, 2007 at
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ok Im confused. Does the driver qualify for the Key or the car?
I'm not 16 so therefore my opinion is of no
consequence...
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August 18, 2007 at
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The format for the Key is way too complicated. Not sure why the show can't be run like a normal show with quals, heats, dash and features. They will lose some cars for sure. They might of had 40 to 50 cars but not with this goofy format. Now drivers like Johanthan Allard and TK will not race due to them having in be in the B main? That makes no sense. With this format you might as well just hand the win to BK.
To make it even more complicated, drivers like BK and Ronnie Day are running different numbers for their friends to get in the show? Seriously, read this and try to make sense of it.
Qualifying for the KeyStarting June 29, 2007 and continuing thru August 31, 2007 cars will pre-qualify. That will be accomplished by taking finishing positions 1,2,and 3 in the A-main for those four nights and "locking" them into a starting spot in the Key race. After the first night of pre-qualifying the top three (3) cars in the A-main NOT already pre-qualified will be taken and so on until the final night of pre-qualifying. After August 31, 2007 the top two (2) cars in Wright One 360 Series points that have NOT secured a starting spot in the Key race will be included in the Key race line up. On the night of Sept. 28, 2007 any car with at least one (1) prior Wright One 360 appearance can attempt to make the Key race by taking time trials and finishing in the top eight (8) positions of the B-main. If needed a C-main will also be ran on that night with cars transferring to the B-main. The number of cars transferring from the C-main will be determined as necessary. Also there will be a total of two (2) provisional spots that will be reserved as well. Those spots may or may not be filled at the discretion of the series sponsor and the promoter. Race night format Cars not "locked" into Key race will hot lap and take two (2) timed qualifying laps. The fastest eighteen (18) qualifiers will line "straight up" with the fastest car on the pole for the B-main. The B-main will be 12 laps. The top eight (8) cars in the B-main will line "straight up" according to the way they qualified behind cars already pre-qualified in the Key race. Provisional cars, if any, will tag rear of Key race. Cars that have pre-qualified will be allowed an opportunity to hot lap during the night before the Key race. There will be two six (6) lap dashes consisting of the fourteen (14) cars that have pre qualified, seven cars in each dash. The starting order of the dashes will be determined by each pre-qualified driver pill picking for their starting spot. The pill pick will determine which dash and which position in the dash a car starts in. The finishing order of the first dash will determine the first seven (7) inside row starting spots for the Key. The finishing order of the second dash will determine the first seven (7) outside row starting spots for the Key. The B-main and provisional cars will follow in the line up as stated previously.
Coming up:
July 15-ASCS NW Speedweek, Cottage Grove Speedway, OR
July 16-ASCS NW Speedweek, Willamette Speedway, OR
July 19-GSC, Antoich Speedway, CA
Aug 9-Civil War, Calistoga, CA
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oaklandsprintfan--------this format for this race has always and hopefully will always reward the cars that race at this track on a regular basis
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August 18, 2007 at
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Posted By: Oakland Sprint Fan on August 18 2007 at 08:09:43 PM
The format for the Key is way too complicated. Not sure why the show can't be run like a normal show with quals, heats, dash and features. They will lose some cars for sure. They might of had 40 to 50 cars but not with this goofy format. Now drivers like Johanthan Allard and TK will not race due to them having in be in the B main? That makes no sense. With this format you might as well just hand the win to BK.
To make it even more complicated, drivers like BK and Ronnie Day are running different numbers for their friends to get in the show? Seriously, read this and try to make sense of it.
Qualifying for the KeyStarting June 29, 2007 and continuing thru August 31, 2007 cars will pre-qualify. That will be accomplished by taking finishing positions 1,2,and 3 in the A-main for those four nights and "locking" them into a starting spot in the Key race. After the first night of pre-qualifying the top three (3) cars in the A-main NOT already pre-qualified will be taken and so on until the final night of pre-qualifying. After August 31, 2007 the top two (2) cars in Wright One 360 Series points that have NOT secured a starting spot in the Key race will be included in the Key race line up. On the night of Sept. 28, 2007 any car with at least one (1) prior Wright One 360 appearance can attempt to make the Key race by taking time trials and finishing in the top eight (8) positions of the B-main. If needed a C-main will also be ran on that night with cars transferring to the B-main. The number of cars transferring from the C-main will be determined as necessary. Also there will be a total of two (2) provisional spots that will be reserved as well. Those spots may or may not be filled at the discretion of the series sponsor and the promoter. Race night format Cars not "locked" into Key race will hot lap and take two (2) timed qualifying laps. The fastest eighteen (18) qualifiers will line "straight up" with the fastest car on the pole for the B-main. The B-main will be 12 laps. The top eight (8) cars in the B-main will line "straight up" according to the way they qualified behind cars already pre-qualified in the Key race. Provisional cars, if any, will tag rear of Key race. Cars that have pre-qualified will be allowed an opportunity to hot lap during the night before the Key race. There will be two six (6) lap dashes consisting of the fourteen (14) cars that have pre qualified, seven cars in each dash. The starting order of the dashes will be determined by each pre-qualified driver pill picking for their starting spot. The pill pick will determine which dash and which position in the dash a car starts in. The finishing order of the first dash will determine the first seven (7) inside row starting spots for the Key. The finishing order of the second dash will determine the first seven (7) outside row starting spots for the Key. The B-main and provisional cars will follow in the line up as stated previously.
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complicated? ever try to understand the format of the knoxville nationals? and don't forget OSF a DRIVER must have at least ONE appearance in the wright one 360 series PRIOR to sept 28 to be eligible to run the key race. unless for some reason that is done away with as well. the format was made even more complicated by the decision to make the change to the CAR making the race and not the DRIVER. in the history of the race the driver has always been the one that qualifies thus avoiding the potential of one driver qualifying multiple cars or one car with multiple numbers ect. i understand there were some good intentioned reasons why the change was made, but it has open the door to some very unorthodox possibilities. and you can not really fault those who choose to utilize the loopholes that were created by this change. as was posted before, this race has always been a race designed to showcase and reward the local racers that supported the local track and to try to avoid the "cherry picking " of the event. everyone who wanted to was welcome to come and compete. if they chose not to, that was their choice. don't forget the CW race right before the gold cup is only open to those in the top 30-or 32 in CW points. plus in the past the requirement for running the key race has always been 3 to 4 appearances. so asking for only 1 appearance at ANY wright one 360 race at ocean the whole season is not asking much.
ps. as far as handing the race to BK it would be better than handing it to someone who never turned a lap at the track all year.
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August 18, 2007 at
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To participating teams
Please work with us to make this a great event. We know everyone has there own opinion of how things should be done. Unfortunately we can never make everyone happy. So please keep that in mind. Minor adjustment may be made to this as deemed necessary by the track.
Remember it my FIRST YEAR!!!!!
John Prentice
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August 19, 2007 at
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There is no guarantee that BK will be starting up front is there? Don't they draw a pill for the dashes? Also 50 laps is a long race a lot of things can happen.. So i don't see where you can say they are handing BK the win..As for the 68 car who knows he may put one of his sons in it if they are available. Like team- wright-one pointed out everyone was welcome to compete, if they choose not to that was there choice..
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August 19, 2007 at
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First of all if you don't like it, don't go. Second option, run your own race and your own way of doing it. People who run the race have that right. If you can't figure out Knoxville, math must be tough for you. W & C
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August 19, 2007 at
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Posted By: jah42 on August 19 2007 at 10:26:03 AM
First of all if you don't like it, don't go. Second option, run your own race and your own way of doing it. People who run the race have that right. If you can't figure out Knoxville, math must be tough for you. W & C
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never said i couldn't figure out the nationals format. just pointing out that if something is not familiar to you it can seem complicated. a lot of folks comment on the nationals format being complicated. just like some folks think the trophy cup format is complicated. now i hope that was not too complicated an explination for you.
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August 20, 2007 at
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Why run the Key again at all? It has been gone for years! I know alot of you are old school like myself but it does not make any sense.?The format is way out of wack.Car not driver? Only one apperance?Provisionals?The b main? a main lineup?Friday? I do hope the race is a success and I am thankful Watsonville is racing again but your trying to bring something back that most fans there do not even remember.I have talked to old timers that know nothing about this returning.The line up by a finish in the dash does not reward the drivers that have supported you all year.If you are going to bring it back,do it old school style. Is it going to be 50 laps or twin 25's.100 laps would have been great. Like I said, I wish you nothing but success and really do wish I could be there! Good Luck and Enjoy! I have seen more then half of the Keys that have been run myself.One question is the Beard race coming back? What about something new with a little local flare to support a family that has been in nor cal racing for 50 years, THE KAEDING CLASSIC. look at the success of the Trophy Cup, Just a thought.Does anyone know if the Big Guy has qualified? GO STATLER!!!
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Posted By: bjorn on August 20 2007 at 03:00:27 PM
Why run the Key again at all? It has been gone for years! I know alot of you are old school like myself but it does not make any sense.?The format is way out of wack.Car not driver? Only one apperance?Provisionals?The b main? a main lineup?Friday? I do hope the race is a success and I am thankful Watsonville is racing again but your trying to bring something back that most fans there do not even remember.I have talked to old timers that know nothing about this returning.The line up by a finish in the dash does not reward the drivers that have supported you all year.If you are going to bring it back,do it old school style. Is it going to be 50 laps or twin 25's.100 laps would have been great. Like I said, I wish you nothing but success and really do wish I could be there! Good Luck and Enjoy! I have seen more then half of the Keys that have been run myself.One question is the Beard race coming back? What about something new with a little local flare to support a family that has been in nor cal racing for 50 years, THE KAEDING CLASSIC. look at the success of the Trophy Cup, Just a thought.Does anyone know if the Big Guy has qualified? GO STATLER!!!
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when the idea to have a race called the johnny key classic was instituted it was the intention to follow the original race structure as close as possible. some compromises were known to have to be made however. there were those of us that would have liked to have seen a more traditional format. then there were others that for whatever reason saw things different. as mr. prentice posted before, not everyone can be made happy. the main idea was to try to generate some excitement and maybe a little familiarity with this race. thank you for your good wishes and your opinions.
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August 20, 2007 at
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The 1981 Johnny Key Classic was my first race ever and was something I looked forward to every year that it was run. Can it be brought back? Should it be brought back? What form? A lot of that will be answered on September 28th and decisions will likely be made shortly after that. Personally I believe you can honor Johnny Key best by making it a premier big money event structured with today's racing realities in place. Hell - build it up to a two night big money show. Have it be a legends weekend with one night being a tribute to Lloyd Beard and the other to Johnny Key. I'd like to be there on the 28th to see it and was even going to call John Prentice to see if he would participate in the Calendar Fundraiser but getting to Watsonville on a Friday in a decent amount of time to do it justice is just nearly impossible for me these days. Hopefully most of the guys who run the Key will run the Civil War Finale the next night at P-ville. Best of luck to everyone running the Key.
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Posted By: bjorn on August 20 2007 at 03:00:27 PM
Why run the Key again at all? It has been gone for years! I know alot of you are old school like myself but it does not make any sense.?The format is way out of wack.Car not driver? Only one apperance?Provisionals?The b main? a main lineup?Friday? I do hope the race is a success and I am thankful Watsonville is racing again but your trying to bring something back that most fans there do not even remember.I have talked to old timers that know nothing about this returning.The line up by a finish in the dash does not reward the drivers that have supported you all year.If you are going to bring it back,do it old school style. Is it going to be 50 laps or twin 25's.100 laps would have been great. Like I said, I wish you nothing but success and really do wish I could be there! Good Luck and Enjoy! I have seen more then half of the Keys that have been run myself.One question is the Beard race coming back? What about something new with a little local flare to support a family that has been in nor cal racing for 50 years, THE KAEDING CLASSIC. look at the success of the Trophy Cup, Just a thought.Does anyone know if the Big Guy has qualified? GO STATLER!!!
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In regard to statler, yes he is qualified for this race..
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It looks like that weekend could be a busy weekend with the Key classic on Friday and Placerville Civil War on Saturday! I hope many GSC drivers come to Placerville because I look forward to that race each year. I think the more sprint car races the better! Also, Kudos to the Prentices for bringing sprint car racing back (WoO race next year) to the bay area and congratulations on their new little guy!
Winged sprintcars = the fastest and most exciting
racecars on dirt!
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the race is a good idea. although two things for next year need to be fixed. first the track needs to be put back to its original form. the one grove and half the baking it is now sucks.
second there should be no provisinals and one car per driver can qualifiy.
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Original form? I my opinion this is the best this track has been in years.. I tend to agree with you on one car per driver to qualify but i'm sure there may be a good reason for allowing that. The two provisinals.. Well someone is the sponsor of the 360 series at Watsonville if not for his sponsorship then probably NO series, he also is a car owner.. If i am correct the promoter also retains a right to name a provisinal, you could possibly have a driver that supported every race of the season and for some reason did not qualify for the Key race, also all provisinals start in the rear so it's not like there getting any great advanage.. Like Mr. Prentice stated this is his first year so there will probably be changes made in future years..
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hopefully he will improve the track and the key format. went to wats for a long time track sure isnt better than it was. track needs help bad
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