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Has anyone ever won a WoO race after starting last?

The hopeless desire to outrun Bud Grimm's Fords is 
why central PA became the toughest place to race on 
the planet. Even the KING couldn't run with Casey 
Luna's Fords on a tacky track. It's a crying shame 
that current car owners failed to notice.

Although probably not "Officially"won from the back since he officially started 6th, but after the turn 1 yellow flag for him on a complete restart with zero laps in the books, and he retarts at the tail, I argue Steve Kinser won this Full Point WoO A Feature from last.

1987 Copenhagen/Skoal Shootout World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series
Calistoga Speedway, Calistoga, California
Sunday, September 20th, A Feature Event #61

Autolite Pacesetter Qualifications:
1. Steve Kinser, Kinser 11, 17.350 (New Track Record); 2. Mark Kinser, Kinser 51, 17.750; 3. Bobby Davis Jr., Morgan 6, 17.757; 4. Jeff Swindell, Trigueiro 1T, 17.903; 5. Tommie Estes Jr., Lamar 3C, 17.944; 6. Brad Doty, Marks-Kepler 18, 17.960; 7. Craig Keel, Keel 8, 17.969; 8. Sammy Swindell, Beadle 1, 18.103; 9. Lee Brewer Jr., Saucier 1ST, 18.089; 10. Cris Eash, Eash 17E, 18.133; 11. Jimmy Sills, Owen 14, 18.147; 12. Jac Haudenschild, Lee 2, 18.171; 13. Darrell Hanestad, Robertson 8X, 18.202; 14. Chuck Gurney, Ulyate 3DB, 18.243; 15. Ron Shuman, Runyon 7R, 18.243; 16. Terry Gray, Berry 7, 18.220; 17. Brent Kaeding, Williams 11X, 18.367; 18. Leonard Lee, Lee 2N, 18.401; 19. Steve Kent, Chinen 20, 18.438; 20. Bobby McMahan, McMahan 44, 18.469; 21. Johnny Pearson, Pearson 32, 18.469; 22. Johnny Herrera, Herrera 45X, 18.498; 23. Rick Downey, Aduddele 80, 18.511; 24. Tony Armstrong, Klein 39, 18.521; 25. Dean Nelson, Nelson 34, 18.580; 26. Terry McCarl, Merrill-McCarl 5M, 18.621; 27. JT Hayes, Leist 88, 18.706; 28. Rich Bubak, Mile High Racing 9, 18.751; 29. Ray Rust, Rust 4R, 18.935; 30. Steve Beitler, Torzilli 21, 19.034; 31. Randi Turner, Turner 2T, 19.774; 32. Lealand McSpadden, Luna 10, No Time.

First Heat Race (8 Laps)
1. Darrell Hanestad, 2. Steve Kinser, 3. Lee Brewer Jr., 4. Brent Kaeding, 5. Tommie Estes Jr., 6. Dean Nelson,
7. Ray Rust, 8. Johnny Pearson

Second Heat Race
1. Chuck Gurney, 2. Johnny Herrera, 3. Cris Eash, 4. Mark Kinser, 5. Leonard Lee, 6. Terry McCarl, 7. Steve Beitler, 8. Brad Doty

Third Heat Race
1. Steve Kent, 2. Rick Downey, 3. Jimmy Sills, 4. Bobby Davis Jr., 5. Ron Shuman, 6. Craig Keel, 7. J.T. Hayes. DNS-Randi Turner

Fourth Heat Race
1. Jac Haudenschild, 2. Jeff Swindell, 3. Tony Armstrong, 4. Terry Gray, 5. Rich Bubak, 6. Sammy Swindell, 7. Bobby McMahan. DNS-Lealand McSpadden

B Feature (10 Laps)
1. Craig Keel, 2. Brad Doty, 3. Dean Nelson, 4. JT Hayes, 5. Johnny Pearson, 6. Terry McCarl, 7. Ray Rust, 8. Steve Beitler.

Steve Kinser wins his 44th WoO A Feature of 1987.

A Feature (30 Laps) Steve Kinser wins his 207th career WoO A Feature.
1. Steve Kinser [6] $4,025; 2. Brad Doty [1] $2,260; 3. Jeff Swindell [3] $1,825; 4. Mark Kinser [5] $1,610; 5. Lee Brewer Jr. [8] $1,515; 6. Bobby Davis Jr. [4] $1,410; 7. Ron Shuman [14] $1,310; 8. Jimmy Sills [10] $1,215; 9. Jac Haudenschild [11] $1,140; 10. Johnny Herrera [19] $1,025; 11. Chuck Gurney [13] $890; 12. Terry Gray [15] $660; 13. Cris Eash [9] $515; 14. Rick Downey [20] $375; 15. J. T. Hayes [23] $360; 16. Leonard Lee [17] $235; 17. Darrell Hanestad [12] $265; 18. Tony Armstrong [21] $240; 19. Rich Bubak [24] $235; 20. Tommie Estes Jr. [2] $235; 21. Craig Keel [7] $285; 22. Steve Kent [18] $265; 23. Brent Kaeding [16] $235; 24. Dean Nelson [22] $285.
Lap leaders: Brad Doty 1-21, Steve Kinser 22-30.

On the initial start, Steve Kinser bangs wheels with a competitor and found himself nose first in the turn 1 guardrail. He restarts at rear of field. Restart: Doty into the immediate lead. By the end of the first lap, Steve Kinser has already passed 6 cars. Doty continued to lead J. Swindell and Estes and by Lap-6, Steve Kinser is running 5th. Lap-8: A Red Flag Fuel Stop was called by WoO Officials due to an excessive amount of parade laps and false starts. Restart: Steve Kinser busts into 3rd by taking position from M. Kinser and Estes. J. Swindell was pushed back to 3rd after Steve Kinser takes him on the backstretch. A highly motivated Kinser begins to close in on Doty's 10 car length lead. Lap-16: Heavy traffic as Doty and Steve Kinser nose-to-tail and for a moment, Kinser edged ahead slightly. Lap-22: Steve Kinser passes Doty on the high side out of turn 4 and quickly opened a full straightaway lead. A late race yellow aided Kinser with lapped cars between himself and Doty to secure the win.

When asked about his yellow flag and restarting: Steve Kinser blamed himself for his first lap incident "I just ran it in way too hard, My car was working just so much better than the guys starting in front of me, I just ran into them."

Yes, but there were only 2 cars in the race and it was still won from the front row.

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i think Jeff Swindell came close at Las Vegas during a TV race back in the Pennzoil days...can't remember his starting spot, but i think he finished 2nd?

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Sorry, I thought you were talking about Stanbroughs performance @ Kokomo last night. Went to the tail in the feature after a racing mishap and came back from last to win the feature. How he keeps that car on four wheels sometimes three wheels is beyond me.

In the fall of '97, Jeff came from 2nd in the B to win the A. After he transferred he got his time back which started him about 9th I believe. I still have that race on tape and it's probably one of the best of my collection.

Savage

Jeff came out of the B-Main at the Knoxville Nationals final one year and finished second and still complained in the Press Conference, lol. Steve also came from way back in Montana a few years ago, what a drive that was! I think he came from the rear at Millstream also and maybe even the Grove when sent to the rear for too many crew (they weren't his guys) over the wall, right? Take It Easy....

I was at the National Open the year Steve Kinser was penalized to the rear of the field during the lap 25 fuel stop. One of the most amazing performances I have ever seen. Kinser restarted at the rear and was leading 20-25 lap later. That was back when the National Open was still a 75-lap race.

Will post entire nights Calistoga 1987 WOO Event on the web-site in the winter.May have been a 2 camera shoot.Thank You for the info Michael

Bruce

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Tim Schaffer took prov. at Eldora a couple years ago & finished 2nd, I think.

Closest I remember (that I attended) was the 1994 Valvoline Classic @ K'ville (back when they ran twin features.

Feature #1: Steve Kinser wins ahead of Danny Lasoski (started 1st and 3rd respectively). Kinser led laps 1-21 and 23-25. Lasoski led lap 22.

Feature #2: Danny Lasoski wins ahead of Steve Kinser (started 21st and 22nd respectively) in a 25 lapper that went "non-stop". Stevie Smith led lap 1, Ryan Jamison led laps 2-14, Lasoski led laps 15-25.

One of the Greatest "Events" that the WoO ran. 2nd Feature was completely inverted from finish of the 1st feature (Except cars that dropped out or were added to the field to replace wrecked cars). Very Large Crowd (~12,000 or so--back before the suites, so they pondered opening the "new" backstretch grandstand to make room for more fans). Full points and $$$ for both features, so everyone ran hard.

Too bad they don't have "Events" like that anymore.

Just my $.02

Wasn't WoO but Haud at Osky for the backrow challange. Think there were like 4 or 5 WoO regulars in there.

The Valvoline & Iowa Ethonol Classics were great. The King swept the twin features of the Valvoline Classic when he was driving the Valvoline-sponsored car... 09/26/92. All the historic results are on Knoxville's web page, thanks to Bill W.

http://www.knoxvilleraceway.com/Files.aspx?filegroup=2

Check out the charges from Lasoski, Haud, the Mouse, Mark Kinser, and others... pretty awesome.

The Kinser/Lasoski battle of '94 was epic...

Dale Blaney nearly duplicated the same feat last year on the Night before the Royal by finishing 4th.

Allright so this is a wingless race so don't bust my chops too hard but the performance that Damion Gardner put on this night still lingers in my mind. I remember reading that after setting quick time, the motor was running sour in his heat and the B so the Chaffin team took a provisional for the featch.

USAC/CRA SPRINT CARS
PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY - PERRIS, CA
APRIL 30, 2005

34 CARS

QUALIFICATIONS:
1. Damion Gardner, 50, Chaffin - 16.010, 2. Seth Wilson, 17, Racing Optics - 16.206, 3. Charles Davis Jr, 8A, Smiley - 16.313, 4. Bobby Cody, 41, Cody - 16.390, 5. Rickie Gaunt, 2A, Smiley - 16.425, 6. Rip Williams, 3, Jory - 16.433, 7. Cory Kruseman, 38, Crossno - 16.560, 8. Rick Becker, 67, Becker - 16.573, 9. Danny Ebberts, 77, Acosta - 16.575, 10. Tony Jones, 87, Vermeer/Ferreira -16.650, 11. Rodney Argo, 19, Argo - 16.710, 12. Mike Kirby, 4, Alexander - 16.725, 13. Mike Spencer, 44, Engstrom - 16.753, 14. Alan Ballard, 97, Ballard - 16.766, 15. J Hicks, 66, Miller - 16.801, 16. David Cardey, 59, Giardina - 16.856,17. Jordan Hermansader, 92, Sertich - 16.866, 18. Jason York, 25N, York - 16.889, 19. R. J. Johnson, 15AZ, Martin - 16.899, 20. Steve Ostling, 5, Keller - 16.918, 21. Dan Hillberg, 82, Hillberg - 16.925, 22. Bobby Graham, 14, Lancaster - 16.930, 23. Steve Paden, 1, Farrier - 17.110, 24. Johnny Rodriguez, 7, Priestley - 17.124, 25. Jimmy Crawford, 17C, Crawford - 17.170, 26. Ronnie Case, 0, Shoemaker - 17.268, 27. Jimmy Thornell, 25, Ruth - 17.391, 28. J J Ercse, 33, Blair - 17.560, 29. Todd Hunsaker, 75, Hunsaker - 17.672, 30. Josh Williams, 34, Williams - 17.720, 31. Brandon Springstead, 36, Springstead - 17.799, 32. Nadine Keller, 16, Keller - 18.325, 33. Jack Hawley, 1J, Hawley - 18.332, 34. Richard Rose, N8, Ziegler - NT

TROPHY DASH: (3 laps)
1. Charles Davis Jr., 2. Damion Gardner, 3. Bobby Cody, 4. Seth Wilson. 50:16.

FIRST HEAT: (10 laps)
1. Dan Hillberg, 2. Jimmy Crawford, 3. Mike Spencer, 4. Danny Ebberts, 5. Todd Hunsaker, 6. Rickie Gaunt, 7. Jack Hawley, 8. Jordan Hermansader, 9. Damion Gardner. NT.

SECOND HEAT: (10 laps)
1. Rip Williams, 2. Tony Jones, 3. Alan Ballard, 4. Ronnie Case, 5. Jason York, 6. Bobby Graham, 7. Seth Wilson, 8. Josh Williams. 2:59:40

THIRD HEAT: (10 laps)
1. J Hicks, 2. Charles Davis Jr., 3. Cory Kruseman, 4. Rodney Argo, 5. R.J. Johnson, 6. Brandon Springstead, 7. Jimmy Thornell, 8. Steve Paden. NT.

FOURTH HEAT: (10 laps)
1. Mike Kirby, 2. Steve Ostling, 3. J.J. Ercse, 4. Rick Becker, 5. David Cardey, 6. Bobby Cody, 7. Nadine Keller, 8. Johnny Rodriguez. 2:56:80.

SEMI: (12 laps)
1. Seth Wilson, 2. Jordan Hermansader, 3. R.J. Johnson, 4. Bobby Cody, 5. David Cardey, 6. Johnny Rodriguez, 7. Jason York, 8. Bobby Graham, 9. Jimmy Thornell, 10. Josh Williams, 11. Brandon Springstead, 12. Rickie Gaunt, 13. Jack Hawley, 14. Nadine Keller, 15. Todd Hunsaker, 16. Damion Gardner. NT.

FEATURE: (30 laps - With Starting Positions)
1. Damion Gardner (23rd), 2. Cory Kruseman (6th), 3. Tony Jones (3rd), 4. Mike Kirby (1st), 5. Charles Davis Jr. (8th), 6. Rip Williams (7th), 7. Danny Ebberts (4th), 8. Jordan Hermansader (15th), 9. Alan Ballard (12th), 10. Mike Spencer (11th), 11. Rick Becker (5th), 12. Johnny Rodriguez (19th), 13. R.J. Johnson (16th), 14. Seth Wilson (9th), 15. David Cardey (14th), 16. J Hicks (13th), 17. Ronnie Case (21st), 18. J.J. Ercse (22nd), 19. Jimmy Crawford (20th), 20. Steve Ostling (17th), 21. Bobby Cody (10th), 22. Dan Hillberg (18th), 23. Rodney Argo (2nd) NT.
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FEATURE LAP LEADERS:
Laps 1-5 Argo, Laps 6-20 Kirby, Laps 21-27 Kruseman, Laps 28-30 Gardner.

Wasn't that at Vegas when his bro could have taken him out in 4 coming to the checker, but already had the championship locked up? If not, that night was still a great race!!!

Fenders are like vacuums... they both suck.

Not WoO, but Lasoski coming from the tail of the B-Main to work his way to 4th in the A-Main in last years Knoxville Nats was something special.

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Yes, you are correct.. that was special. Just ask Kerry Madsen!!!

Fenders are like vacuums... they both suck.

Unfortunately the "indidents" in the B-main tarnished an otherwise great achievement (he still came from the back of the B to qualify). There can be no arguments about his charge in the A-main to finish 4th.

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If he would have started 15th or better he would have had something for schatz I'm not saying he would have won but it would have been fun to see but hard to hear with all the booing

Danny took advantage of a lot of good luck, even if he had to make some of it himself..... Yellows in the B. Yellows and red in the A. But, he DID get it done. He was the fastest before the red. Steve was flat out bringing it. He was definitely the fastest car on the track. It would have been fun to see only a short yellow because he was on his way. Danny was nearly a half lap behind at that point. I don't know whether Steve's tire sealed over, they made a bad adjustment or everyone else just adjusted and got faster, but he wasn't the same after the red. Danny on the other hand did get better. They made a good adjustment and he was probably the fastest at the end.