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pro64
May 31, 2008 at 12:01:06 PM
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why do we need tec. inspections when Lanny reverses their findings



BobcatJD
May 31, 2008 at 12:19:20 PM
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I heard about the Pro Stock deal last nite but wasnt in the infield to know for sure. It still looks like the "issue" of who you are comes into play not only in the tech area but calls on the track has a little taintedness to it as well.


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smoman
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May 31, 2008 at 02:02:57 PM
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Posted By: pro64 on May 31 2008 at 12:01:06 PM

why do we need tec. inspections when Lanny reverses their findings



How does an infraction get reversed?There has got to be some sort of explanation.I dont know much about SFS rules in any classes but that would be a spit in the face to all the ones who race there.I guess it goes back more like the AMA,He who cheats the bestest wins the mostest.


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D_Waller
May 31, 2008 at 02:14:34 PM
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Well all of you know that Lanny's Favorites will not get DQ'ed in tech, and I know one of his favorites puffed to big over the limit and the call was reversed, and Lanny will not change his mind.... Mark Brill should maybe be the Tech Man cause at least he knows what he is checking and looking at, just my .02


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mjm sleepy
May 31, 2008 at 02:24:32 PM
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This message was edited on May 31, 2008 at 02:25:30 PM by mjm sleepy

Y U P Mark is not having to answer to the Fair bored,the City of ANY WHERE, or to a group of people around his track wanting it closed...... But what does that matter. He has taken that Meeker track and made it a success when a lot of people said it couldnt be done. And he dont play no stinkin favorites or put up w/cheaters



Crazydeke
May 31, 2008 at 04:18:35 PM
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Yep, and they need to learn how to throw black flags for rough driving. I saw quite a few instances last night that called for black flagging. He's a joke and thats why i wont be back. Poor track prep, poor flagging and no standing behind the rules.



cheese21
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May 31, 2008 at 04:27:25 PM
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I have no idea what happened, but this brings me to a good point. Everyone wonders why no one will protest. Here is a perfect example. Even if the "tech guy" does find something, it can be reversed because Lanny says so.


 

Dogwater
May 31, 2008 at 04:35:56 PM
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This message was edited on May 31, 2008 at 04:36:17 PM by Dogwater

Who was found illegal? Or is everyone too afraid to say?


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smoman
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May 31, 2008 at 05:08:41 PM
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Posted By: cheese21 on May 31 2008 at 04:27:25 PM

I have no idea what happened, but this brings me to a good point. Everyone wonders why no one will protest. Here is a perfect example. Even if the "tech guy" does find something, it can be reversed because Lanny says so.



WHAT!!!!!!Why even tech?See there Cheese you guys need to seriously consider the mini-sprints.Leave the a$$-clown Lanny alone.


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BobcatJD
June 01, 2008 at 12:22:06 AM
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Well I got some info from someone who was down there. The top 5 cars were puffed, Jarvis was asked before he started puffing what was the "go-no go" number he said it was 43 brill puffed a 42, Hicks was puffed a 39, Beane was puffed a 42, Rhodes puffed legal and Smith was puffed a 45 on 3 different puffings. Jarvis and Slugo both were scratching their heads trying to figure out how to get out of there before bedtime so they call "Little Lanny" down and he stated "well I guess he'll be O K" and all three official high tailed it out of there leaving the other 4 Drivers in dismay. So how does that leave all the other SFS Teams feeling now that you know what can happen in Tech when your not a "Favorate". If some one can tell me a different story please do, Slugo I know you read this board, explain this to the people you expect to show up and go by your rules when you cant even enforce the rule you have now without getting sent to your bedroom without dinner.


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Dogwater
June 01, 2008 at 12:42:12 AM
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Posted By: BobcatJD on June 01 2008 at 12:22:06 AM

Well I got some info from someone who was down there. The top 5 cars were puffed, Jarvis was asked before he started puffing what was the "go-no go" number he said it was 43 brill puffed a 42, Hicks was puffed a 39, Beane was puffed a 42, Rhodes puffed legal and Smith was puffed a 45 on 3 different puffings. Jarvis and Slugo both were scratching their heads trying to figure out how to get out of there before bedtime so they call "Little Lanny" down and he stated "well I guess he'll be O K" and all three official high tailed it out of there leaving the other 4 Drivers in dismay. So how does that leave all the other SFS Teams feeling now that you know what can happen in Tech when your not a "Favorate". If some one can tell me a different story please do, Slugo I know you read this board, explain this to the people you expect to show up and go by your rules when you cant even enforce the rule you have now without getting sent to your bedroom without dinner.



Thanks for the info JD!


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sidebitewins
June 01, 2008 at 09:36:47 PM
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Posted By: pro64 on May 31 2008 at 12:01:06 PM

why do we need tec. inspections when Lanny reverses their findings



Same shit different friday



Skeesiks
June 02, 2008 at 07:37:53 AM
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Posted By: BobcatJD on June 01 2008 at 12:22:06 AM

Well I got some info from someone who was down there. The top 5 cars were puffed, Jarvis was asked before he started puffing what was the "go-no go" number he said it was 43 brill puffed a 42, Hicks was puffed a 39, Beane was puffed a 42, Rhodes puffed legal and Smith was puffed a 45 on 3 different puffings. Jarvis and Slugo both were scratching their heads trying to figure out how to get out of there before bedtime so they call "Little Lanny" down and he stated "well I guess he'll be O K" and all three official high tailed it out of there leaving the other 4 Drivers in dismay. So how does that leave all the other SFS Teams feeling now that you know what can happen in Tech when your not a "Favorate". If some one can tell me a different story please do, Slugo I know you read this board, explain this to the people you expect to show up and go by your rules when you cant even enforce the rule you have now without getting sent to your bedroom without dinner.



Sounds like Jarvis pulled a number out of his head and wasn't sure if it was correct. Lanny and his goons are a joke. BTW, I am a friend of Steve's but you gotta be legal when you get checked. Just the way it is man.



BobcatJD
June 02, 2008 at 04:37:34 PM
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More info has come in on the "Huffin and Puffin". It seems like the Champs went through some of the same issues. There were some Drivers in that class that Puffed over a 43 as well. Things were not cleared up until someone from the officiating crew actually went to get the sheet that the formula to compute the Cubic Inch was on. After the Formula was brought out all drivers were "found legal". This issue could of been avoided if our tech people would spend 5 minutes making sure of what their doing before they go try to do their job. In my humble opinion there were no "Illegal Drivers" but only "Illegal Tech People"!


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P Colby
June 02, 2008 at 04:48:54 PM
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If you take those # times 8 you get

Beane 42 x 8 = 336 cubic inch

Brill 42 x 8 = 336 cubic inch

Hicks 39 x 8 = 312 cubic inch

Smith 45 x 8 = 360 cubic inch

These # show a 38 cubic inch diffrence

How accurate is the puffer I am sure all these guys are running atleast a 350 the rule is max 360

 

 



BobcatJD
June 02, 2008 at 04:52:00 PM
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This message was edited on June 02, 2008 at 04:59:03 PM by BobcatJD

Temp. of a motor has a bearing on a puffer. You have to put that into the formula. By the way I'm sickin my "little Runt" Colby Propps on you in a few weeks, we bought a Mini Stock over the weekend.


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Skeesiks
June 02, 2008 at 05:42:23 PM
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Posted By: BobcatJD on June 02 2008 at 04:37:34 PM

More info has come in on the "Huffin and Puffin". It seems like the Champs went through some of the same issues. There were some Drivers in that class that Puffed over a 43 as well. Things were not cleared up until someone from the officiating crew actually went to get the sheet that the formula to compute the Cubic Inch was on. After the Formula was brought out all drivers were "found legal". This issue could of been avoided if our tech people would spend 5 minutes making sure of what their doing before they go try to do their job. In my humble opinion there were no "Illegal Drivers" but only "Illegal Tech People"!



LMAO That's funny JD. Glad Steve was found legal after all without any doubts.



P Colby
June 03, 2008 at 05:33:23 PM
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JD I understand the heat deal but heat will make a motor puff big.

My point is that the puffer is not accurate becouse it puffed Hicks motor at 312 unless he is running a .060 bore 305

Cool deal on the ministock we need more cars If you need any help getting it going let me know I am sure it is a FORD.

Perry Colby

 



The_announcer
June 03, 2008 at 07:48:23 PM
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I'm thinking there must have been some other kind of "puffin'" going on. Your either legal or your not. There's not a lot of gray there.

Who were the techs, Cheech and Chong????



outhousemouse
June 03, 2008 at 09:55:18 PM
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Posted By: The_announcer on June 03 2008 at 07:48:23 PM

I'm thinking there must have been some other kind of "puffin'" going on. Your either legal or your not. There's not a lot of gray there.

Who were the techs, Cheech and Chong????



Not only is the temp of the motor at the time but if the cylinders are dry you will get a low number as well,  many times when we ran ASCS and were checked we would have to spray WD40 in the cylinder to get an acurate reading.





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