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PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY...
18700 Lake Perris Drive...
Perris, CA 92571
(951) 940-0134
www.perrisautospeedway.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY PEOPLE'S CHAMPION SPRINT CAR FUND!
(MARCH 20, 2008, PERRIS, CA) Perris Auto Speedway promoter Don Kazarian announced a brand 2008 People's Champion Sprint Car Fund on Thursday afternoon. Kazarian and Jim Cardey, father of USAC/CRA star "Dynamite David" Cardey, kicked off the new program by throwing $500.00 each into the pot.
When Temecula Valley Pipe & Supply presents the USAC/CRA Series at the famous Riverside County clay oval on March 29th, drivers will begin accumulating points in the 2008 Perris Auto Speedway Sprint Car Championship Series. Drivers will be racing for points over the final 20 races of 2008 in both the A and B mains (point charts listed below). At year's end, the top 15 teams at The PAS will be paid from the point fund. 100% of all money raised goes to the teams. This point fund is totally separate from the USAC/CRA Series point fund.
"This program really got kicked off with a phone call from Jim Cardey on Wednesday afternoon," Kazarian said. "This comes from the fans voicing their desire to help support the teams that provide the best Sprint Car action in the Nation. In these tough economic times we all need to work together in an effort to help differ the rising costs of Auto Racing. On our original 2008 schedule, The PAS had a 12 race series planned (PAS point fund for the drivers), but was not able to find a sponsor to fund the series. Jim's approach was a fresh idea and with everyone's effort there is no telling how much money can be raised over the season long campaign. It will be exciting for the teams and exciting for the fans as well. 100% of the money raised will go to the teams after the inaugural Glen Howard Memorial on November 29."
Fans may contribute any amount they wish and they can do so by calling The PAS office (951 940-0134) or they can contribute at the souvenir stand at every race.
Anyone wishing more information could contact Perris Auto Speedway at (951) 940-0134.
Perris Auto Speedway is located on the Lake Perris Fairgrounds, home of the Southern California Fair. The track is approximately one hour east of Los Angeles and one hour North of San Diego. To get to the track, take the 215 freeway, exit at the Ramona Expressway and go two miles east to the fairgrounds.
Video and DVD productions for all USAC/CRA at races Perris Auto Speedway are available from North Hollywood, California's Raceway Video. For more information on these shows call Jeff Kristensen at (818) 618-9764 or visit the website at www.racewayvideo.com
racesatthepas@aol.com is the only authorized Internet address to issue official media news released from The Perris Auto Speedway or Oval Entertainment
PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY PEOPLE'S CHAMPIONSHIP POINT FUND POINT STRUCTURE
A MAIN
1ST – 125
2ND – 122
3RD – 119
4TH – 116
5TH – 113
6TH – 110
7TH – 107
8TH – 104
9TH – 101
10TH – 98
11TH – 96
12TH – 94
13TH – 92
14TH – 90
15TH – 88
16TH – 86
17TH – 84
18TH – 82
19TH – 80
20TH – 78
21ST – 76
22ND – 74
23RD – 72
24TH – 70
B-MAIN
1ST - Transfer
2ND – Transfer
3RD – Transfer
4TH – Transfer
5TH - Transfer
6TH – Transfer
7TH – 60
8TH – 59
9TH – 58
10TH – 57
11TH – 56
12TH – 55
13TH – 54
14TH – 53
15TH – 52
16TH – 51
17TH – 50
18TH – 49
19TH – 48
20TH – 47
21ST – 46
22ND - 45
23RD – 44
24TH – 43
Any additional transfers from the B Main will only earn A Main points.
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March 21, 2008 at
06:25:33 AM by SkyHarborCowboy
Scott,
I think this is a nice program but I would like to make one comment on it. I think most of us fans would rather help out the under-funded teams and this championships seems to cater to those that can make it to all of the races and are competitive at all of the races which usually means they have better funding then the low buck guys. I think it would be better to make this a "B-Main" Championship fund from the fans. I would use your same point system but only use the C and B Mains to earn the points. That way the lower funded teams are more likely win the money.
This is soley my opinion and I do not mean to create a controversy on the subject but just offering my opinion on what could possibly help the lower funded teams.
I am starting a company www.gooseneckshades.com (I dont have my website up yet should be soon) but and I will pitch in $250 into the program to get the B-Main Fans Champion started.
Thanks,
Joe
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I wrote that while I was on break at work last night and had to rush out to the plane so I didnt really get to finish my post as I intended to. To complete my thought.
I would really like to thank Don for doing all he does for all of us by providing such a great facility for all of us to enjoy. This is yet another example of him listening to what we have to say on this message board and reacting in a very positive way! The list is endless on what the PAS has done to listen to what its fans have to say and actually doing something about it that truly benefits all! I would also like to Thank Jim Cardey for making the phone call!
A very sincere Thank You to the PAS staff for all they have done!
Sincerely,
Joe Godoy
PS. Now lets show the car owners who sacrifice great amounts of money so we can hang out with our friends on Saturday nights and enjoy the best sport in the world (even better then my beloved team roping!) how much we appreciate them!
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One more question, are you planning to Pay the point fund to the drivers or the car owners?
Joe
PS. Just to be clear with my B-Main suggestion and the $250 I have pledged to it, the B-Main Championship Fund will be paid to the car owners as they are putting up the money to put the car on the track.
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Posted By: ScottDaloisio on March 21 2008 at 12:25:59 AM
PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY...
18700 Lake Perris Drive...
Perris, CA 92571
(951) 940-0134
www.perrisautospeedway.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY PEOPLE'S CHAMPION SPRINT CAR FUND!
(MARCH 20, 2008, PERRIS, CA) Perris Auto Speedway promoter Don Kazarian announced a brand 2008 People's Champion Sprint Car Fund on Thursday afternoon. Kazarian and Jim Cardey, father of USAC/CRA star "Dynamite David" Cardey, kicked off the new program by throwing $500.00 each into the pot.
When Temecula Valley Pipe & Supply presents the USAC/CRA Series at the famous Riverside County clay oval on March 29th, drivers will begin accumulating points in the 2008 Perris Auto Speedway Sprint Car Championship Series. Drivers will be racing for points over the final 20 races of 2008 in both the A and B mains (point charts listed below). At year's end, the top 15 teams at The PAS will be paid from the point fund. 100% of all money raised goes to the teams. This point fund is totally separate from the USAC/CRA Series point fund.
"This program really got kicked off with a phone call from Jim Cardey on Wednesday afternoon," Kazarian said. "This comes from the fans voicing their desire to help support the teams that provide the best Sprint Car action in the Nation. In these tough economic times we all need to work together in an effort to help differ the rising costs of Auto Racing. On our original 2008 schedule, The PAS had a 12 race series planned (PAS point fund for the drivers), but was not able to find a sponsor to fund the series. Jim's approach was a fresh idea and with everyone's effort there is no telling how much money can be raised over the season long campaign. It will be exciting for the teams and exciting for the fans as well. 100% of the money raised will go to the teams after the inaugural Glen Howard Memorial on November 29."
Fans may contribute any amount they wish and they can do so by calling The PAS office (951 940-0134) or they can contribute at the souvenir stand at every race.
Anyone wishing more information could contact Perris Auto Speedway at (951) 940-0134.
Perris Auto Speedway is located on the Lake Perris Fairgrounds, home of the Southern California Fair. The track is approximately one hour east of Los Angeles and one hour North of San Diego. To get to the track, take the 215 freeway, exit at the Ramona Expressway and go two miles east to the fairgrounds.
Video and DVD productions for all USAC/CRA at races Perris Auto Speedway are available from North Hollywood, California's Raceway Video. For more information on these shows call Jeff Kristensen at (818) 618-9764 or visit the website at www.racewayvideo.com
racesatthepas@aol.com is the only authorized Internet address to issue official media news released from The Perris Auto Speedway or Oval Entertainment
PERRIS AUTO SPEEDWAY PEOPLE'S CHAMPIONSHIP POINT FUND POINT STRUCTURE
A MAIN
1ST – 125
2ND – 122
3RD – 119
4TH – 116
5TH – 113
6TH – 110
7TH – 107
8TH – 104
9TH – 101
10TH – 98
11TH – 96
12TH – 94
13TH – 92
14TH – 90
15TH – 88
16TH – 86
17TH – 84
18TH – 82
19TH – 80
20TH – 78
21ST – 76
22ND – 74
23RD – 72
24TH – 70
B-MAIN
1ST - Transfer
2ND – Transfer
3RD – Transfer
4TH – Transfer
5TH - Transfer
6TH – Transfer
7TH – 60
8TH – 59
9TH – 58
10TH – 57
11TH – 56
12TH – 55
13TH – 54
14TH – 53
15TH – 52
16TH – 51
17TH – 50
18TH – 49
19TH – 48
20TH – 47
21ST – 46
22ND - 45
23RD – 44
24TH – 43
Any additional transfers from the B Main will only earn A Main points.
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This is just what is needed, I wll call today and pledge $250.00. I only hope everyone will get involved with this no matter what size the donation, remember if the fans don't step up the result could be this type of racing will go by the wayside.
Grady
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This is the worse idea possible.A charity supplemental points fund,given to the top 15 points finishers,hows that going to make racing better.Not one of those guys has an open trailer and pick up. It does'nt take $200000 worth of tow'er to go racing .ECONOMIZE.As a fan I do my part ,Don't try to guilt me .Perris chose to screw SCRA ,signed with USAC,hows that working for you....If you're a fan and you wish to help ,GIVE your money to Ken Wagner,it'll go to the needy in sprint car racing.Every time a racers injured,we reach into our pockets to help out [despite the fact I'm not the one that chose to race without proper insurance coverage to protect my family]and when one of the mainstays of racing gets old and ill ,we respectfully do our best to help them financially.Considering the mindset of Perris and USAC,I think I'll go to Ventura and Victorville .I'm bias,when I was racing Wag's bucks keep me going more than once..........
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What a great start to an idea that comes from you the fans. Personally, I won't be statisfied until we raise $40,000 or more and its the little contributions of $1.00 or your personal change at the tract that will go along way to reaching this goal. There is so much uncertainty in racing right now that I wanted to be a part of your grassroots effort to help fund our racers and also assist in keeping our PAS alive and well. It is our intention to make sure the underfunded teams receive a fair share of this fund, however, it is equally important to take care of the points leaders also. There will be much more written and explained about this in the near future. Don K, the drivers and owners all want a very interactive relationship with their fans and I think you will be pleasantly surprised by some of the changes in the future. As far as racing goes, this is going to be a ball to have all your favorite drivers starting on an equal points basis and fighting for a tract champion. Tony Jones tract champion, nah he's to old ,Like heck he is. Let the fun begin and thank you Don K and staff for the opportunity to make a difference. Your imput is important, but please keep it constructive.......................................Jim Cardey
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Posted By: race88 on March 21 2008 at 11:45:22 AM
This is the worse idea possible.A charity supplemental points fund,given to the top 15 points finishers,hows that going to make racing better.Not one of those guys has an open trailer and pick up. It does'nt take $200000 worth of tow'er to go racing .ECONOMIZE.As a fan I do my part ,Don't try to guilt me .Perris chose to screw SCRA ,signed with USAC,hows that working for you....If you're a fan and you wish to help ,GIVE your money to Ken Wagner,it'll go to the needy in sprint car racing.Every time a racers injured,we reach into our pockets to help out [despite the fact I'm not the one that chose to race without proper insurance coverage to protect my family]and when one of the mainstays of racing gets old and ill ,we respectfully do our best to help them financially.Considering the mindset of Perris and USAC,I think I'll go to Ventura and Victorville .I'm bias,when I was racing Wag's bucks keep me going more than once..........
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Go ahead and support your other tracks.... Losing one ungrateful fans is a step in the right direction!!!!1
Good job trying to ruin a great Idea of DK and the PAS.
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"A charity supplemental points fund,given to the top 15 points
finishers,hows that going to make racing better.Not one of those guys
has an open trailer and pick up. It does'nt take $200000 worth of
tow'er to go racing."
Although I agree with that statement, I really do not believe you should be complaining that people are trying to help! I (we) could give our money to whomever we wish to but to make an impact I think it is great to pool our money together to show everyone how much we care for this sport. Ken isnt at every race anymore collecting at each individual race (that I know of) and to kick people when they are trying to help is not smart. You must change your tone in order to get people to listen to what you have to say when people are trying to do a favor to help sprint car racing in So. Cal!
Like I said in my post, I am contributing to a B-Main Championship Fund just for the reason in your quoted statement above. Since you obviously feel the same as I do I should be expecting your check to arrive at the PAS office shortly. If it doesnt, please refrain from replying because all you are doing is trying to ruin a great idea put forth by "Jim (I keep typing Jack everytime, sorry I am tired )edited" and Don!
Thanks,
Joe
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I like both ideas. BUT. I tend to lean towards helping the lower budget players more than the top in points. Both schools of thoughts are wonderful for racing. Maybe race88 can donate to someone in Ventura this weekend. It's like donating blood, who cares what bloodbank you go to it ends up in the right place.
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Posted By: SkyHarborCowboy on March 21 2008 at 01:38:31 PM
"A charity supplemental points fund,given to the top 15 points
finishers,hows that going to make racing better.Not one of those guys
has an open trailer and pick up. It does'nt take $200000 worth of
tow'er to go racing."
Although I agree with that statement, I really do not believe you should be complaining that people are trying to help! I (we) could give our money to whomever we wish to but to make an impact I think it is great to pool our money together to show everyone how much we care for this sport. Ken isnt at every race anymore collecting at each individual race (that I know of) and to kick people when they are trying to help is not smart. You must change your tone in order to get people to listen to what you have to say when people are trying to do a favor to help sprint car racing in So. Cal!
Like I said in my post, I am contributing to a B-Main Championship Fund just for the reason in your quoted statement above. Since you obviously feel the same as I do I should be expecting your check to arrive at the PAS office shortly. If it doesnt, please refrain from replying because all you are doing is trying to ruin a great idea put forth by "Jim (I keep typing Jack everytime, sorry I am tired )edited" and Don!
Thanks,
Joe
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I'm not going to take anything you say personal,I'll just explain myself hopefully more clearly.Your going to impound a fund of donations,hold it till the end of the season,then give it to the top 15 point finishers.Hows that going to keep any racer going this season.You talk about helping the low buck ,hard working racer but hows that going to keep them on the track?You guy call me an ungratefull fan ,I'm complaining. Bullshit.... I offered an alternative ...Ken Wagner ...for years he collected money and throughout the race night,If you wrecked or blew a motor,Ken Wagner would hand you an envelope of money to help get you back to the next race.Isn't this closer to what you you guys are looking to accomplish.Giving CPR to a 2hr dead corpse is not as good as pushing air in the lungs of someone who just stopped breathing.....Sky harbor cowboy there is no B-main championship fund ,except in your post,Scott defined the points fund clearly,and No I would'nt give money to your B main plan either.It does'nt address the owner/drivers immediate needs.I've explained my thoughts on the subject,if you find fault in my logic,feel free to educate me ..I'll listen to reason..If well meaning people want to help the teams let's give them the best way possible....most effective.I never suggested Don and Jim 's plan was less than an honest attempt to help the teams.Oh ,by the way if anyone has a better plan than mine ,POST IT,I win if you guys can help these race teams.
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Posted By: race88 on March 21 2008 at 11:45:22 AM
This is the worse idea possible.A charity supplemental points fund,given to the top 15 points finishers,hows that going to make racing better.Not one of those guys has an open trailer and pick up. It does'nt take $200000 worth of tow'er to go racing .ECONOMIZE.As a fan I do my part ,Don't try to guilt me .Perris chose to screw SCRA ,signed with USAC,hows that working for you....If you're a fan and you wish to help ,GIVE your money to Ken Wagner,it'll go to the needy in sprint car racing.Every time a racers injured,we reach into our pockets to help out [despite the fact I'm not the one that chose to race without proper insurance coverage to protect my family]and when one of the mainstays of racing gets old and ill ,we respectfully do our best to help them financially.Considering the mindset of Perris and USAC,I think I'll go to Ventura and Victorville .I'm bias,when I was racing Wag's bucks keep me going more than once..........
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After reading your post I feel bad that a winning team might get any money, maybe if nothing is done racing can just go away? I don't think any of the teams that are running now will continue under the current circumstances but then the fans will have cheap racing to watch.
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Like I said in the post ( Micro19's Challange ) I will put up 50.00 dollars on March 29th to help out the teams and Ralphie stated that we could give it to the first non qualifier or hard luck award but we would let the fans decide. I will also give 50.00 dollars to this new Idea I think that its a start in the right direction . I would rather give it to the race teams than to the casino down the road . We can still help the low dollar teams by doing the nightly donations if you choose to this may work or may not but we have to at least give it a try.
Thanks
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Like I said in the post ( Micro19's Challange ) I will put up 50.00 dollars on March 29th to help out the teams and Ralphie stated that we could give it to the first non qualifier or hard luck award but we would let the fans decide. I will also give 50.00 dollars to this new Idea I think that its a start in the right direction . I would rather give it to the race teams than to the casino down the road . We can still help the low dollar teams by doing the nightly donations if you choose to this may work or may not but we have to at least give it a try.
Thanks
Joe Clifton
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You hit the nail on the head give to both if you can
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Many thanks to Don Kazarian and Jim Cardey for stepping up for the 410 race group. Like Skyharborcowboy stated, I too appreciate the great race facility at the PAS. I will contribute each week to due my share, and to Sky's B main if it is available. Thanks again.
"When the green flag drops the bullshit stops" - The
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There is already $250 in the B-Main Championship Points Fund. I hope that if you are able to that both funds find donations. I havent had the chance to speak with the PAS yet but I am sure they are more then capable of holding on to both funds just make sure you state which one you want your donation to go to. If they do not want to do both I will run the B-Main deal and keep the points and post them here on the message board as the points are earned.
Take Care,
Joe
PS. Dan what makes you think that this program is going to dry up the money given to individual teams on a weekly basis? Secondly Dan, your negativity is just beyond unbelievable! Third, the B-Main Fund is a reality even if I have to run it myself! Fourth, I think we are all well aware of the situation in racing and in our own personal lives when it comes to the economics of what is going on right now. We do not need to be educated by someone that just wants to post negative comments on a thread that is supposed to be about helping others! Fifth, no one needs a middle man if they want to help an individual team they can just introduce themselves to the team and give them money. This is a novel idea to make a point to the teams that as a group we care and appreciate what they do for us! I am close friends with probably a scores of team members from various crews and I could easily go to them and donate money (usually in the form of a tire, arm guard or drinks) to their team and have done so in some circumstances when I could afford it. Most of my friends are on teams that are at the upper end of the financial spectrum and even some of them are hurting now. Having said that I still want my point fund to cater to the lower financial spectrum teams to help them out even if it is at the end of the year! Lastly, since you say you will not support or run at the PAS anymore I guess you will have no chance of winning any of this money so what do you care what we do with it!
I truly hope that from now on this thread is about the POSITIVE points about us fans helping the teams and that is it. If you want to whine and complain please start another thread! If you truly respect what Jim and Don have started you will honor them by doing so!
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This is a GOOD move to put more $$$ into the kitty. Sure it would be nice if the $$$ raised could just go to the lesser funded teams. Then again, where do you draw that line? Its easy to name the top 6-8 teams, but does an 'average' funded team count? Who's low $ and who's not? Too much grey area there.
Lets not forget that DK is running a business. Thus, he stacked the $$$ so cars would show up and race as much as possible. Any of us in DK's position would do the same or similar. Nothing wrong with a separate fund for "lower" funded teams if such a criteria is set by whom ever wants to set it.
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Thank You Don Kazarian, PAS, and Jim Cardey for stepping up and trying to help the car counts at the PAS (with a points chase).
(One question, what do you think USAC is going to do to increase car counts at Santa Maria, Vegas, and Manzy for the rest of the season, I think Ventura will be OK with their Local cars).
But with Levi Jones, Dusty Morgan, Chad Boat, Jesse Hockett, Casey Shuman, Cole Whitt going back to the Midwest to race, and with Cory (and his 3or 4 cars racing a partial schedule due to him racing the summer in the Midwest), Ricky Gaunt on a partial schedule, Josh Ford (normally goes back East to race), Nic Fass (is supposed to race asphalt this year in Midgets and Sprints), David Cardey and Crossno seem to be on a limited schedule, the talent pool could be thin at times during the year even if we can get the low buck racers out of their garages. I think the PAS needs both the low and big buck racers.
At least the PAS is proactive now.
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Lance,
Once the final outcome of the two funds are established would you be able to post a thread with the details as a sticky at the top of the first page so future fans will easily be able to find it and be able to donate to either the A-Main Peoples Champion and the B-Main Peoples Champion? I think we have come up with a tweak to the B-Main Championship that will make some people happy and address some concerns that have been mentioned concerning the finances of some race teams. I hope everyone donates what they can to either and/or both purses!
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Just a thought that occurred to me: Super Ricky did not earn the title " King of the B Mains " driving for a low buck team.
That said, I intend to contribute weekly to this fund, and think it is a great way to show support and help keep the sport alive.
Mike Brown
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