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Good one! :)

But nobody on a political site would know what you're talking about....

True, but they would already have strong opinions about sprint cars and would argue to the death that their opinions on sprint cars were the only correct opinions on sprint cars. ;)

Quite an assusumption.......:)

I almost never agree with blazer00 on here, but he is just killing it in this thread. The government is already involved in healthcare. What do you some of you guys think Medicare/Medicaid is?

The ACA is not perfect. But it is better than what was out there before -- which was nothing. It is easy to say it sucks and is terrible when you are not the person with a pre-existing condition that couldn't insurance before the ACA because of that pre-existing condition.

Sorry to those who are sick of this ongoing debate......Strawser.....you speak as though you've actually read the "2,700 pages of bloated/earmarked government" legislation. I don't believe that. Don't say "I could go on and show other years of increases, but I'm not going to look for them" What a cop out! Do it if you have it. The last refrence you gave in an earlier post collapsed in your face......have you even read them yet? Answer this......WHY are the insurance companies raising the rates on ACA policies for 2018? It's spelled out in the article you pointed out a few posts of yours back. READ IT! Don't just state "I know differently" when you debate......Show some evidence that can be backed up, and then stand by it.

I have never said the ACA is perfect, or the total answer to the health care problems in our country. But I do maintain the opinion that we had to start somewhere. We had nothing before that legislation. Our current president promised affordable healthcare for everyone......how's that legislation coming along? Rather than destroy the entire ACA legislation, why not enhance it with amendments. Take out what doesn't work......improve what does.

Actually, I'm going to answer the question here and now as to why policy rates are going up so high in 2018. Our current administration attempted to repeal the ACA and failed. So, a different tactic has emerged that will cause it to implode. Trump plans to (or is going to attempt to) remove all of the subsidies from the private insurance companies providing policies through the ACA that did allow for affordable healthecare policies to exist. Because those insurance companies stand to lose the monies that allowed a "buy down" on policies making them affordable, those companies need to raise the prices of those policies as much as 60% in some cases, in order to keep those insured under the ACA insured. Of course that will drive prices to the point where many will have to drop their policies, therefore imploding the ACA.

 Now, before anyone gripes about the subsidies, remember this. We are paying for the uninsured with tax dollars anyway, so why not use tax dollars to find a way to insure those people? One method is subsidies. Using tax dollars already being spent on a problem, in a different manner to solve the same problem. And, the more people signed up, the less the problem costs. Because the young and healthey are signed up, also. At least that's the premise.

Me too, it's long overdue.

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EXACTAMUNDO!

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STIDA - google it.  Not that expensive for racers as a supplemental insurance.

So help me if someone starts talking politics at the Chili Bowl..... I go to races to avoid this kind of talk.

Blazer, I'm buying you a beer if we ever meet.

By the way, expect an even longer diatribe from Strawser using more exclamation points.

Insurance premiums are going up across the board.  Not just Obamacare.  My Wifes company is switching carriers, which means new Doctors, (which means I lose every Doctor and therapist I had built up a repoire with) just to be in the 'network'  I loved the coverage we had for the last 4 years.  I had hip replacement surgery and coupled with Medicare, I paid a total of no more than 300 bucks out of pocket.  Maybe this new carrier will be as good, if not better, but I highly doubt it.  It costs the company less money, while the wifes share is higher, but not as high as the last carrier.  ACA has nothing to do with this.  It just sucks all around.  Strawser or whatever his handle is is just a tRUMP suckie. Ignore him, tRUMPS balls are impeding his vision.

As long as blazer00 doesn't have seats next to you at the Chili Bowl you should be fine. LOL Nothing pisses our group off more than to have a bunch of know it alls sit down next to us.   It's terrible what hoseheads has became do to certain posters that seem to always change the topic and run it in the ground. A thread that started out about Richard Marshall ends up in a debate about who dont know what about the ACA.  SMH

Probably wont be much politics in the pit stands ;)  I should be safe.

Good grief!

Confress screwed with the original bill for months. Take a hard look at who congress was made up of in Obama's first term. 

Deductables have been changing in the private and group sector, also. Insurance companies blame rising medical costs.

What do you consider insurance options? The ACA covers more than was previously covered....like pre existing.....

Some insurance companies have chosen to no longer participate in group coverage, if that's what you mean by co-ops failing. Has nothing to do with the ACA. Please clarify your statement.

There is no shortage of doctors. Doctors have the option of participating in the ACA, or not. Yes, they do recieve a reduced amount of money for many procedures. Just my opinion mind you, but I think they tend to way over charge in many instances, to begin with. No doctor is excluded from participation. So if your doctor opts out of the ACA, that's his or her choice.

The percentage of uninsured in the USA has dropped each year since the inception of the ACA. Propaganda to the contrary is distorted or made up.

Funds.....if you or anybody else for that matter can figure out where and how congress honestly decides to draw from the tax pool, your a genius! With 20 million plus now insured through the ACA, It would make sense that fewer tax dollars are being paid out for the uninsured.

Healthcare IS a privilage, not a right. There are those, me among them, that would like it to become a right. When the ACA was introduced, our group carrier had a store wide meeting to discuss the ACA. One of the younger guys at work spoke up that he was aginst it being "mandatory " to have insurance. He and his GIRLFRIEND were having a second child and he couldn't afford insurance! I told him he should keep his pecker in his pants. I paid for my kids. He should pay for his! In my entire working life my family was never uninsured. 

Your standard personal tax deduction takes in to account that health insurance and other living costs are personal expenses. Health insurance is not an individual tax deduction. I can't deduct mine, nor can you. So if someone does get reimbursed by an employer, it would be considered income. That's only right.

I have some trouble with what illegals recieve, also.

There are other governments around the globe, should you choose to perfer one over ours. And there's a good chance that if you choose a free country, you'll have government funded healthcare. And again, your choice of words is false.....the private sector does not ALWAYS do it better. The amount of fraud and out right greed in our society proves that.

Don't think S-10 actually even go's to the races!!!

( ) Republican 

( ) Democrat 

(X) Pissed Off

This is why Trump got elected in the first place!! The sad part is, neither side has still figured that out yet!?!?!? We need a government that wants to work FOR THE PEOPLE!! We need some common ground, before they totally screw this country up worse than they already have. Carry on:)

Hey Blazer why would you say look who controlled the Congress in Obama's first term. It was the Democrats,  they definitely controlled the Senate and I think the house.  Some all the bad and a little good is all on the Democrats. They are the ones who passed it in the middle of the night. You seem like a sharp person. You would never sign  a contract for a new cell phone or car without reading it first. Yet quote Nancy Pelosi " We need to pass it then read it" , so one of the most important legislation passed in the history of our country was less important than people signing their new cell phone contract.

Also if Obamacare is so good and the Democrats believe in it so much. Why did Obama and the Democratically controlled Senate exempt themselves from having to sign up for it and be part of the mandates.  That is like a restaurant saying we have the best food and then you ask the cook to join you and they say I would never eat here.

Also if the government is so good at running things why is Amtrak so far in debt. Also how is the Post Office doing?

OKAY>>>>>I GIVE UP>>>>>but you should do some homework. The Dems only had control of congress for the first 72 days of Obama's administration. That's a fact that is reported by all sources regarding the issue of congress control and Obama. Had the ACA not been passed when it was, it wouldn't have existed at all. Which seems to be what would have made you and others happy. Keep in mind, it wasn't written solely by one party. There was give and take to even bring it to a vote.  

I am actually an independant. I have voted both ways in my lifetime.

Look this up: Dates back to inception of the ACA.

Q: Is it true that there are bills in Congress that would exempt members and their staffs and families from buying into “Obamacare”?

A: No. Congress members and staffers will be required to buy insurance through the exchanges on Jan. 1.

Amtrak is a government owned corporation and is only partially funded by the government. Amtrak is a for profit corporation that was formed during the Nixon years. There isn't just one answer as to why it runs in the red. It's a multitude of things. Amtrak has continued to recieve huge government subsidies, even while showing losses.  One reason for continued funding may be the thinking that Amtrak could become important to National Security at some point. Many things are funded for reasons such as that.

Congress has required USPS to prepay retiree medical benefits far into the future for employees that haven’t been born yet. That is just one thing that contributes to the "losses". Another may be the price of simple letter postage, and the feebees that get mailed from non profit organizations and such. Maybe a $1.00 per letter or card would make a difference, too. Plus, the computer has eliminated a lot of simple communication.

Good news..........I will refrain from continuing to post regarding theses issues.....simply because the nay sayers are simply misinformed, and clearly repeating scuttlebutt and not facts. It's obvious that scuttlebutt voters never vote on the issues. I love this country, and politics is a passion of mine. I find it extemely troubling, that we could put 50 or 100 middle class citizens, same incomes, same family sizes, etc......in one room together and they wouldn't be able to agree on a single thing. When in fact, the middle class is the largest segement of our society.

Strawser speaking truth!

"illegal people can get Obamacare"?  False. where are you getting your info?

"What has the government ever touched that hasn't been done better by the private sector?" Lets see: defeating the Nazis, putting a man on the moon, Medicare for starters...

"The private sector always does it better"... yea, they're doing a great job ending homelessness....