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Well after having the meeting at my shop last week and all of us figuring out a few rules we wanted to change , none of them got changed .

Lanny threw all of them out so none of them will happen !!

The only thing that will be enforced will be the one inch inspection hole in the oil pan , it's already there but this year it will be enforced . So dont plan on gettin your inspection sticker unless you have an inspection hole in your pan . they will be checkin ........

winners dont cry when they lose , they go back to the 
drawing board and come back for round 2 !

Hey Shawn thanx for lettting us all know that wasnt able to make it. I had to work so thanx.

I just checked the rules. You mean they won't enforce the rules that ARE in the rule book, but they will enforce a rule that ISN'T in the rule book? What a crock. I think they should go to crate motors in the factory and the pro's. It would make it cheaper for people to get into the factory's and others to move up into the pro's. That would be how to get the car count up.

I agree man somethin like that would be great , it's just gettin all the people to go for it . The money game comes into play there , you got the part time racers that don't wanna buy a crate motor .

If we were to go to a crate motor you would see some of the best racin around especially in the factories you would see who was all horsepower and the true drivers would put on a heck of a show !

I checked into that option and it's not really that high , heck a good crate engine is cheaper than most of the engines out there right now .

As for the inspection plug it was brought into the rules in 04 but I guess over the last two years it somehow slipped out of there .

winners dont cry when they lose , they go back to the 
drawing board and come back for round 2 !

I think we should have a 2bbl carb rule like the imca stock cars. We could use the same rule and you can buy a new carb for about $400. I believe it would even things up a lot for a little while but who knows.

Those who have $10,000 motors will still have $10,000 motors, just with 2 barrels. In order to get the car count up, you have to get rid of the high dollar motors. Remember, this FACTORY STOCK, NOT STREET STOCK. The cheapest GM racing crate motor is $2500 with everything but a carb. That's oil pan to intake including dist. and harmonic bal. They are just over 300 hp. Make it a driver/set-up race. There is nothing wrong with crate motors, unless someone wants to cheat. Which brings me to this, if you cheat and win, how could you feel good about it? But, it really doesn't matter, Lanny will do what ever he wants. Just my opinion. Man, I feel better, i think i'll go have a turkey sandwich. lol

My turn.

I've been trying for years to get the factory stocks to stop adding this part, that part, this part over there. But as history has shown I've failed. The factory stocks have followed the trail of the supers, and pro-stock. I've said this in 1990 and I'll say it again. Why do you want to spend $10,000 plus to win $250. Math lesson: 250 times 17 race nights plus fuel equals $4250 plus fuel. Now don't get me wrong, I can afford that kind of money. I just can't see spending that kind of money at this level of racing. I enjoy this kind of racing. Entry level. Racing for those who race on a small budget. A one or two person crew, Not five or six experts.

Anyway, some of the changes have helped like wider tires (now we don't rut the track), rear ends (more gear ratios), radiator (cooler motor), pulleys (less belts being thrown), power steering (less horse power drain), disc brakes ( better handling car), carburetor ( more horse power out of a stock motor), 108 inch bodies (112 bodies are hard to find and cost to much now), quick steering (better handling car less crashes and tore up equipment),

Bottom line is: We have done this to ourself. I was at the meeting. WHERE WERE YOU? If you were at the meeting, Thank you for being there. There was more big money guys there than guys who just want to race. You have a voice use it or loss it. I'm trying but I'm only one. Together were a group.

I could go on but.... Hey, God bless America, The land that I love.

That's my Opinion and I'm stick'en to it.

I was there and all the big money guys shot down everything. I told the guy next to my about crate motors and he that had been tried with no luck, just like the intake and rod deal. Right then I decided to cheat like they are. If ya can't beat'em, join'em. Group or individual will not matter, Lanny will do what he want's.

I've had some good stuff the last 3 or 4 years and I am always there in the top 5 , but I am still underpowered compared to a lot of the cars out there I just focus on usin what I got and handling , it's all about momentum bubba . I am one of the pushers of the crate engines it would be one of the best things that have ever happened to the class . But lets face it will never happen, its not what we want its what he wants . Quite frankly I am fed up with the class I am tired of all the funds it takes to run up front , I wont be back in a factory next year I have a good car sittin at the shop that is capable of winning , but its just not worth it ! I have more fun just goin from track to track and most of the time I win more $$ than I do at the city . Everyone keep tryin and someday somethin good may happen !!

Shawn Jorski

winners dont cry when they lose , they go back to the 
drawing board and come back for round 2 !

Get a modified, you have proven yourself there Shawn. That goes for you others too that run factories or pro stocks. Tired of the rules (or the lack thereof) then get you a modified and you can race anywhere you want to on Friday or Saturday nights and make pretty decent money also.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

what i dont understand is why is lanny so hard headed. Y dont he make it more fair. Does he not realize that if there were less blowout races that there would be more fans. And not to mention the # of drivers that would come. More money for him and more for the drivers cause they wont have to spend as much on there cars. its a win win situation and he dont want it. maybe he is trying to push all the racers away. Maybe he dont want to do it anymore.

Dont get mad at me, im just the pushtruck guy.


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come on matt.........we all know the answer to the that one. Money talks and everything else walks......which tells you who Lanny listens to. DIRT TRACK 28&29 you hold a hell of a point man. Next time there is a meeting about that post it on here because I epitomize the end-all be-all for Lanny...fans. That class has turned into a bathroom break for the entire grandstand. I hope that makes those top 3 factory stocks with all that money sunk into their cars real happy. And they know who they are. Because while they sit and think they are the top of the class........in my opinion and many others as well.......they are the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM OF THE CLASS. For all those teams/cars do is hold that class back and cheat the fans out of what might possibly be a better (and more fair) show for the factory stocks.......of course Lanny gets a real big assist on that one.

Saddest thing about this is if I were to go to one of those meetings and voice my opinion I would most likely be told to keep my mouth shut as I'm just a fan so what do I know? I do hope that point of view might become less prevalent in time to come b/c fans like myself is where people like Lanny Edwards makes all his money. Considering the guy will not listen to common sense or voice of reason anymore.....and has developed (or already had) a little man complex. I seriosuly think the man has gone senile. Because for him to be the promoter he's been for 40 years he had to be doing SOMETHING right.........but it's starting to seem like when someone suggests something to him he considers it a challenge to his authority and barks at em like a dog. The man needs to regain the concept that had made him and so many other businessmen well-off. When you run a business you have to listen to your clients and take them seriously and show them some cinsideration. In this case his business is dirt track racing and his clients are drivers/teams/ and fans. For some time now.....I don't think he has listened to any of those.

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Look don't blame Lanny for everything. Sure mistakes have been made. But the changes in the rule in the factory class have been requested by the owners and drivers. Lanny approved them. So who do you blame? I blame us the owners and drives. Remember , We asked. No one could have predicted how the cost of racing has raised. On both sides. A few years ago the insurance doubled.

So, how do you fix the factorys? my solution is to go to dish pistons and stock rockers, go back to a stock engine. period. Sure there are things you can do to a stock engine. But dish pistons and stock rockers will equal most everyone. IT's time to back-up. You know nascar is changing. They are the leader of auto racing. I think the fair grounds is the same. We need to be the leader in dirtrack racing in Oklahoma We are not street stocks or super stocks. Lets get Back to Racing for the fun of it.

That's my Opinion and I'm stick'en to it.

I have been reading this for the last couple of days and here is my 2 cents worth. I think if there was a motor claim it would even up the field. Maybe a claim of one thousand dollars and it would make you think twice about putting a bunch of money in your motor. It would also solve the problem of Lanny having to tech the cars. You could still run a 10 thousand dollar motor but you would be taking a chance of losing that motor for a grand or if you decline the claim you would have to sit out the rest of the year.

I have to agree with champsprint50. The guys with the big money are always going to have the money and the motors and the best of what money can buy regardless of the rules you put on the class. But if you had to think that if I put 10k in this motor I am going to run and there is a claim rule in effect I honestly think it would make you think twice about putting that much in your motor. But thats just my opinion and I am just a factory stock driver. The thing that bothers me is there are people who have spent alot of time and do honestly care about the class like Shawn Jorski. But to put time in effort into something like having meetings and discussing things that could help the class to just have them shot down everytime is a slap in the face.

Jason Sauer

HERES A SIMPLE PLAN " NO WATER ON THE TRACK" DRY SLICK... IT MAKES A DRIVERS RACE NOT SO MUCH MOTER...

Build em light..Twist em tight...

No Water on the track = Too Many Cautions! which = Torn Up S%*T!!!

"Just a dirt track racer"

Everytime we had a dry track this year I thought that it was the best racing. Those heavy tracks teear up alot of S%*T. Just my 2 cents.

I have to agree with twofast4u and hoss2.

Dry tracks > Heavy tracks

I like dirt!

I'm not interested in watching single file racing around the bottom. Please give us at least enough moisture that there is more than one groove.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."