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Topic: Kings Royal 175k!!!
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turn4guy
May 23, 2019 at 01:57:48 PM
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This message was edited on May 23, 2019 at 01:59:19 PM by turn4guy

Holy fuck. I'm not sure what to think about this. I mean its good. It's great. But Knoxville.....ehh...um.  Oh boy.



shernernum
May 23, 2019 at 02:03:55 PM
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Posted By: turn4guy on May 23 2019 at 01:57:48 PM

Holy fuck. I'm not sure what to think about this. I mean its good. It's great. But Knoxville.....ehh...um.  Oh boy.



While this is great it sounds like they are only increasing the winners share.  Knoxville‘s total purse would still be much higher then.



bgtexpress
May 23, 2019 at 02:10:34 PM
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You can thank the Sprint Car World Championship @ Mansfield Motor Speedway for the nice increase in the winners share @ Eldora.



thowell29
May 23, 2019 at 02:13:50 PM
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Does Knoxville up their winners share?



bgtexpress
May 23, 2019 at 02:19:28 PM
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This message was edited on May 23, 2019 at 02:20:07 PM by bgtexpress

And the fans thought it was exciting when Jason & Donny banged wheels at the Nationals a few years ago. Can you imagine a last lap with two drivers going neck and neck with a difference of $150k between first and second??????



YungWun24
May 23, 2019 at 02:20:56 PM
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As a Knoxville fan, I think this is great. IMO Knoxville doesn't need to increase anything, however if you look through the years the purse has increased, plus the purse for SATURDAY NIGHT ALONE is huge, even to simply start in the A, exceeds many A-main features. 

It's good for racing. 


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Nick14
May 23, 2019 at 02:24:27 PM
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I would say its a good thing but people will still complain. For years people have been complaining about how the winner's share hasn't gone up even though they have added an extra day to the even, and added more money throughout the field, and more money for the non-transfers. Couple years ago people were complaining that it had set attendance records 2 or 3 straight years but the purse stayed the same. Then last year people were bashing it becuase Mansfield came out with a 100K to win race and the Kings Royal which was thought to be a Crown Jewel race was now being out done by another promoter without a sanctioning commitment. Then there was more complaining because the 50/50 winner from last year took home a couple more dollars than the winner of the Kings Royal. Now some people are probably going to complain because they went too far? Or they did this in spite of Mansfield.

The Knoxville Nationals is still one of, if not the best race & series of races in my opinion. With the format during the whole week, the winner is no doubt the best driver and the purse overall is still the best purse throughout the course of the week. If more tracks want to follow suite and increase their purses & hold different formats because of the Nationals then I see no problem in that. And this is coming from an Ohio Native who has attended The Kings Royal each year since I have followed Sprint Car racing, and attend almost every sprint car race there. I have only been to 2 Knoxville Nationals and to me the best is Knoxville and a very very very close second is The Kings Royal. Everyone on here complains about purses not increasing so don't complain about this after they have already made other increases in the past. Sometimes a good thing can just be a good thing no matter what caused it

 



shernernum
May 23, 2019 at 02:31:25 PM
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Posted By: Nick14 on May 23 2019 at 02:24:27 PM

I would say its a good thing but people will still complain. For years people have been complaining about how the winner's share hasn't gone up even though they have added an extra day to the even, and added more money throughout the field, and more money for the non-transfers. Couple years ago people were complaining that it had set attendance records 2 or 3 straight years but the purse stayed the same. Then last year people were bashing it becuase Mansfield came out with a 100K to win race and the Kings Royal which was thought to be a Crown Jewel race was now being out done by another promoter without a sanctioning commitment. Then there was more complaining because the 50/50 winner from last year took home a couple more dollars than the winner of the Kings Royal. Now some people are probably going to complain because they went too far? Or they did this in spite of Mansfield.

The Knoxville Nationals is still one of, if not the best race & series of races in my opinion. With the format during the whole week, the winner is no doubt the best driver and the purse overall is still the best purse throughout the course of the week. If more tracks want to follow suite and increase their purses & hold different formats because of the Nationals then I see no problem in that. And this is coming from an Ohio Native who has attended The Kings Royal each year since I have followed Sprint Car racing, and attend almost every sprint car race there. I have only been to 2 Knoxville Nationals and to me the best is Knoxville and a very very very close second is The Kings Royal. Everyone on here complains about purses not increasing so don't complain about this after they have already made other increases in the past. Sometimes a good thing can just be a good thing no matter what caused it

 



Just to clarify, I think this is awesome.  I was only responding to whether Knoxville needs to do anything to match it.



saphead
May 23, 2019 at 02:35:03 PM
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I like to bag on Eldora for lots of things. Mostly billboards, suites and Coke products. But this is pretty damn impressive. 

It's a sprint car purse money arms race!

 

 



chathamracefan1
May 23, 2019 at 02:46:07 PM
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Tony gets lots of heat from some folks.  I have attended events at Eldora every year since 2007.  He has poured lots of $ back into both the facility and the purse $ going to the drivers over the years.  I go to the Dream late model race every year & the purse structure for it & the World 100 have been bumped up several times over the years.  Also, more nights of racing have been added.  

Not claiming he is perfect, but by my standards he has done a hell of a job of taking the legacy that Earl built & bringing it up to date & elevating it's stature.  

Kudo's to them.  

 



blazer00
May 23, 2019 at 03:46:33 PM
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This message was edited on May 23, 2019 at 03:48:01 PM by blazer00

My thought is this. Will that increase the number of race entrants? I doubt there was anybody missing the past couple years or so that had a realistic chance of winning. I'm still in favor of increasing purses throughout the field. Raising KR to 100k and another 75k spread back in woud have done just as much and possibly more. Mind you I'm not complaining. It is an awesome to win amount!



dsc1600
May 23, 2019 at 03:48:31 PM
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Kings Royal and Eldora  has always been about a massive winners share. This is awesome news. 



luvit
May 23, 2019 at 04:09:38 PM
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Posted By: shernernum on May 23 2019 at 02:31:25 PM

Just to clarify, I think this is awesome.  I was only responding to whether Knoxville needs to do anything to match it.



What's the Kings Royal pay for 2nd? How about starting the "A",,Asking for a friend



bgtexpress
May 23, 2019 at 04:29:15 PM
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What's the Kings Royal pay for 2nd? How about starting the "A",,Asking for a friend



I believe $20,000 for second and $3000 to take the green



sprintcarfanatic
May 23, 2019 at 05:12:25 PM
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Back when they did The Mopar Million I ask why is it 10,000 to start when the top few guys get what they won ? Someone said it wasn't a charity. Why not only 5,000 to start & pay those low buck guy's a little more ? Wouldn't it have them more that didn't already have the big sponsor ?



fiXXXer
May 23, 2019 at 05:14:57 PM
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Now, restore the banking in the corners to the pre-NAPCAR days and we'll really be set. Cool to see Eldora raising the bar like this. Our sport can always use more of that.



Murphy
May 23, 2019 at 05:35:02 PM
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This message was edited on May 23, 2019 at 05:36:11 PM by Murphy

    If you were a high level, winged sprint car racer and you only won one big, premeire sprint car race, which would you have rather won: The Knoxville Nationals once, or The King's Royal for more money once?



revjimk
May 23, 2019 at 06:29:43 PM
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Posted By: Nick14 on May 23 2019 at 02:24:27 PM

I would say its a good thing but people will still complain. For years people have been complaining about how the winner's share hasn't gone up even though they have added an extra day to the even, and added more money throughout the field, and more money for the non-transfers. Couple years ago people were complaining that it had set attendance records 2 or 3 straight years but the purse stayed the same. Then last year people were bashing it becuase Mansfield came out with a 100K to win race and the Kings Royal which was thought to be a Crown Jewel race was now being out done by another promoter without a sanctioning commitment. Then there was more complaining because the 50/50 winner from last year took home a couple more dollars than the winner of the Kings Royal. Now some people are probably going to complain because they went too far? Or they did this in spite of Mansfield.

The Knoxville Nationals is still one of, if not the best race & series of races in my opinion. With the format during the whole week, the winner is no doubt the best driver and the purse overall is still the best purse throughout the course of the week. If more tracks want to follow suite and increase their purses & hold different formats because of the Nationals then I see no problem in that. And this is coming from an Ohio Native who has attended The Kings Royal each year since I have followed Sprint Car racing, and attend almost every sprint car race there. I have only been to 2 Knoxville Nationals and to me the best is Knoxville and a very very very close second is The Kings Royal. Everyone on here complains about purses not increasing so don't complain about this after they have already made other increases in the past. Sometimes a good thing can just be a good thing no matter what caused it

 



So let them bash, go to the races & have fun. wish i could make it....maybe I will ;)



revjimk
May 23, 2019 at 06:32:02 PM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on May 23 2019 at 05:14:57 PM

Now, restore the banking in the corners to the pre-NAPCAR days and we'll really be set. Cool to see Eldora raising the bar like this. Our sport can always use more of that.



I've only been to Eldora once (4 Crown a few years ago), & it wasn't crazy fast like you used to hear about, seemed like a pretty standard 1/2 mile

I'm all in favor of more banking & speed too.....



RodinCanada
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May 23, 2019 at 06:42:53 PM
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I thot I read somewhere that one of Earls trademarks was always having a bit more prize money the following year. Even if it was a small increase he made sure the purse grew every year. Is this true?



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