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Speed71
March 17, 2018 at 05:15:16 PM
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This message was edited on March 17, 2018 at 05:16:45 PM by Speed71

My uncle called me and had me go to this site and read the replies to the above titled "article".  I very rarely look at this site unless he calls and tells me "ya gotta read this".  Afterall, I'm a lifelong NHRA fan, 10 of my young years anyway.  The first reply where some guy named motorhead says the reason we can call Schatz's future engine a Ford, whenever he gets it, July supposedly I guess, is that its not the "norm", its different from the "norm". So we know Schatz's future engine is a Ford and the rest, well, you know what they are, the norm or to be truthful a Chevy small block.  What the hell is the norm?  Obviously if they are all Chevy, the "norm" engine is a Chevy engine. This is nutz!!  The guy can't even used the word Chevy, how sick is he, he can't describe the greatest engine ever produced and wins that poll year after year, he has to use the word Norm to identify all the other engines, the Chevy engines.    Been to WoO races at Husets 3 or 4 times, once to Badlands (sad) and twice to River Cities.  Other than that, no sprint car races. Not into circle track that much.   I read the Flat Out February one-page article by Bob Mays (whoever he was) where he said 99% of the sprint car engines today are Chevy.  Then in reading this months Speed Sport (Sheheen's great rag), I see the 2018 inductees into the National Sprint Car hall of Fame and there is Bob Mays.  And Kistler, whoever he is, says he uses all small block Chevy's in his 410 builds.  And on and on.  Yert this knucklehead uses the word "norm" to describe them.  

I took my 2013 ZO6 to Doug Rippie Performance near Minneapolis last summer to increase my flywheel HP 200 HP, very expensive to say the least, but according to these hosehead guys who say the Chevy sprint engine is modified big time (no kiddin--950HP) and thus can't be called a Chevy, but the Shaver Ford being built by Shaver can be called a Ford cuz it separates it from the other engines, the "norms".  Are you really kiddin me.  So any engine with modifications can't be called a Ford, Chevy or Dodge but has to be put in the category "other".  Tell that to the NHRA, where in their NHRA magazine they list the winners of all approx 50+ classes from the previous national event and 3/4 are listed as having Chevy engines.  Shame on you NHRA.

Tell Rick Hendrick or Jack Roush that they don't have Chevy and Ford engines in their Napscar cars.  Tell anyone in America inclding me and my ZO6 that we can't call it a Chevy engine anymore.  Put split fire spark plugs in your Mustang and you can't call it a Ford engine anymore,   Whoops, its a Ford so gets a pass.  Bob Mays must be laughing his azz off.   


Go young guns!

Johnny Utah
March 18, 2018 at 03:47:04 PM
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Posted By: Speed71 on March 17 2018 at 05:15:16 PM

My uncle called me and had me go to this site and read the replies to the above titled "article".  I very rarely look at this site unless he calls and tells me "ya gotta read this".  Afterall, I'm a lifelong NHRA fan, 10 of my young years anyway.  The first reply where some guy named motorhead says the reason we can call Schatz's future engine a Ford, whenever he gets it, July supposedly I guess, is that its not the "norm", its different from the "norm". So we know Schatz's future engine is a Ford and the rest, well, you know what they are, the norm or to be truthful a Chevy small block.  What the hell is the norm?  Obviously if they are all Chevy, the "norm" engine is a Chevy engine. This is nutz!!  The guy can't even used the word Chevy, how sick is he, he can't describe the greatest engine ever produced and wins that poll year after year, he has to use the word Norm to identify all the other engines, the Chevy engines.    Been to WoO races at Husets 3 or 4 times, once to Badlands (sad) and twice to River Cities.  Other than that, no sprint car races. Not into circle track that much.   I read the Flat Out February one-page article by Bob Mays (whoever he was) where he said 99% of the sprint car engines today are Chevy.  Then in reading this months Speed Sport (Sheheen's great rag), I see the 2018 inductees into the National Sprint Car hall of Fame and there is Bob Mays.  And Kistler, whoever he is, says he uses all small block Chevy's in his 410 builds.  And on and on.  Yert this knucklehead uses the word "norm" to describe them.  

I took my 2013 ZO6 to Doug Rippie Performance near Minneapolis last summer to increase my flywheel HP 200 HP, very expensive to say the least, but according to these hosehead guys who say the Chevy sprint engine is modified big time (no kiddin--950HP) and thus can't be called a Chevy, but the Shaver Ford being built by Shaver can be called a Ford cuz it separates it from the other engines, the "norms".  Are you really kiddin me.  So any engine with modifications can't be called a Ford, Chevy or Dodge but has to be put in the category "other".  Tell that to the NHRA, where in their NHRA magazine they list the winners of all approx 50+ classes from the previous national event and 3/4 are listed as having Chevy engines.  Shame on you NHRA.

Tell Rick Hendrick or Jack Roush that they don't have Chevy and Ford engines in their Napscar cars.  Tell anyone in America inclding me and my ZO6 that we can't call it a Chevy engine anymore.  Put split fire spark plugs in your Mustang and you can't call it a Ford engine anymore,   Whoops, its a Ford so gets a pass.  Bob Mays must be laughing his azz off.   



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ryanhunsinger
March 19, 2018 at 07:59:11 AM
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Posted By: Speed71 on March 17 2018 at 05:15:16 PM

My uncle called me and had me go to this site and read the replies to the above titled "article".  I very rarely look at this site unless he calls and tells me "ya gotta read this".  Afterall, I'm a lifelong NHRA fan, 10 of my young years anyway.  The first reply where some guy named motorhead says the reason we can call Schatz's future engine a Ford, whenever he gets it, July supposedly I guess, is that its not the "norm", its different from the "norm". So we know Schatz's future engine is a Ford and the rest, well, you know what they are, the norm or to be truthful a Chevy small block.  What the hell is the norm?  Obviously if they are all Chevy, the "norm" engine is a Chevy engine. This is nutz!!  The guy can't even used the word Chevy, how sick is he, he can't describe the greatest engine ever produced and wins that poll year after year, he has to use the word Norm to identify all the other engines, the Chevy engines.    Been to WoO races at Husets 3 or 4 times, once to Badlands (sad) and twice to River Cities.  Other than that, no sprint car races. Not into circle track that much.   I read the Flat Out February one-page article by Bob Mays (whoever he was) where he said 99% of the sprint car engines today are Chevy.  Then in reading this months Speed Sport (Sheheen's great rag), I see the 2018 inductees into the National Sprint Car hall of Fame and there is Bob Mays.  And Kistler, whoever he is, says he uses all small block Chevy's in his 410 builds.  And on and on.  Yert this knucklehead uses the word "norm" to describe them.  

I took my 2013 ZO6 to Doug Rippie Performance near Minneapolis last summer to increase my flywheel HP 200 HP, very expensive to say the least, but according to these hosehead guys who say the Chevy sprint engine is modified big time (no kiddin--950HP) and thus can't be called a Chevy, but the Shaver Ford being built by Shaver can be called a Ford cuz it separates it from the other engines, the "norms".  Are you really kiddin me.  So any engine with modifications can't be called a Ford, Chevy or Dodge but has to be put in the category "other".  Tell that to the NHRA, where in their NHRA magazine they list the winners of all approx 50+ classes from the previous national event and 3/4 are listed as having Chevy engines.  Shame on you NHRA.

Tell Rick Hendrick or Jack Roush that they don't have Chevy and Ford engines in their Napscar cars.  Tell anyone in America inclding me and my ZO6 that we can't call it a Chevy engine anymore.  Put split fire spark plugs in your Mustang and you can't call it a Ford engine anymore,   Whoops, its a Ford so gets a pass.  Bob Mays must be laughing his azz off.   



I put splitfire spark plugs in my Chevy Z06 and now I call it a Ford Mustang.



dirtdevil
March 20, 2018 at 11:11:11 PM
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Posted By: Speed71 on March 17 2018 at 05:15:16 PM

My uncle called me and had me go to this site and read the replies to the above titled "article".  I very rarely look at this site unless he calls and tells me "ya gotta read this".  Afterall, I'm a lifelong NHRA fan, 10 of my young years anyway.  The first reply where some guy named motorhead says the reason we can call Schatz's future engine a Ford, whenever he gets it, July supposedly I guess, is that its not the "norm", its different from the "norm". So we know Schatz's future engine is a Ford and the rest, well, you know what they are, the norm or to be truthful a Chevy small block.  What the hell is the norm?  Obviously if they are all Chevy, the "norm" engine is a Chevy engine. This is nutz!!  The guy can't even used the word Chevy, how sick is he, he can't describe the greatest engine ever produced and wins that poll year after year, he has to use the word Norm to identify all the other engines, the Chevy engines.    Been to WoO races at Husets 3 or 4 times, once to Badlands (sad) and twice to River Cities.  Other than that, no sprint car races. Not into circle track that much.   I read the Flat Out February one-page article by Bob Mays (whoever he was) where he said 99% of the sprint car engines today are Chevy.  Then in reading this months Speed Sport (Sheheen's great rag), I see the 2018 inductees into the National Sprint Car hall of Fame and there is Bob Mays.  And Kistler, whoever he is, says he uses all small block Chevy's in his 410 builds.  And on and on.  Yert this knucklehead uses the word "norm" to describe them.  

I took my 2013 ZO6 to Doug Rippie Performance near Minneapolis last summer to increase my flywheel HP 200 HP, very expensive to say the least, but according to these hosehead guys who say the Chevy sprint engine is modified big time (no kiddin--950HP) and thus can't be called a Chevy, but the Shaver Ford being built by Shaver can be called a Ford cuz it separates it from the other engines, the "norms".  Are you really kiddin me.  So any engine with modifications can't be called a Ford, Chevy or Dodge but has to be put in the category "other".  Tell that to the NHRA, where in their NHRA magazine they list the winners of all approx 50+ classes from the previous national event and 3/4 are listed as having Chevy engines.  Shame on you NHRA.

Tell Rick Hendrick or Jack Roush that they don't have Chevy and Ford engines in their Napscar cars.  Tell anyone in America inclding me and my ZO6 that we can't call it a Chevy engine anymore.  Put split fire spark plugs in your Mustang and you can't call it a Ford engine anymore,   Whoops, its a Ford so gets a pass.  Bob Mays must be laughing his azz off.   



now im a big fan of corvettes, I like the NHRA  because i love mechanical things and thier engines are amazing, my true passion fo rthe past 20+ years has been sprintcars, now,  mind you, the generic "norm " engine is of that,  a sbc, alltho,  dont be fooled, these things are anything but norm, the blocks are aluminim, dart,brodix,donovan,rodeck to name a few, not even close to the same block introduced in 1955 from gm (similar) yes,  but look closer, its completly different, and built for strength , high compression,rpm,  stress and hp, they utilize a crankshaft from crower,callies,bryant, typically a 3.8" ish stroke ,  not your standard 3.48   350 ci stroke,- rods are  5.85". 6" , 6.125" yea, high end jobbers,  that will kick you in the shorts about 2k, and "honda journals whaaat? yea, honda... bbc cam journal size -  55mm sometimes , oe btw, a  raised cam block,yea,  throw  your tin timing cover and trick double roller timing chain away... lifters at the bore of a chrysler style, oe and try run the styers style cam in your Z28..  notta..  shaft rockers?? shaft? what is this?  SBC? buick? pontiac? wth?  your not gonna spear your stud mounted stamped rocker with a toothpick pushrod at 8000 rpm.. not in todays world, nor the past 20 years of sprint engine developement,  remember when pinned studs,threaded studs  or rocker girdles were the sh&t? thos days are over.. Parker has worked and developed a front mount distrubutor(magneto) . for sbc? whaaat? i strongly believe these cars can be named whatever the sponsor wants them to be named, its motorsport,  ironically im a chevrolet guy, and lately i have been looking at BBC heads, Arias is one im interested in.. but, where does the overall construction of this head come from? thats right, Mopar.. a Hemi.. so , is that a Arias headed BBC? or a mopar bottom ended chev? mopar thingie?, the ford engines have a large differance vs a SBC desighn thus the origin of the engine kinda makes the lable, but the components are anything but traditional stock and NOT a $20 set of plugs and octane boost.. it is what it is and i love it, it makes power and its interesting..  call it what you want, its just good parts..



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March 21, 2018 at 12:25:16 AM
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Just my 2 cents but isnt racing kind of about taking the best of this and the best of that and putting it together somehow to make fast. If a chev bottom end can go faster with 351W heads on it sell me an adapter plate please.

At the grass root fender car level most people i raced with had ford carbs on chev engines in chev cars with ford differentials. Because it saved money and was easier to work on.

I dont care what its called as long as its faster than your " what you call it."


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