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Topic: Name a 410 Sprintcar Driver ( Born ) in Iowa to Win A WOO A MAIN ?
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EZ2BME
February 12, 2018 at 07:54:28 PM
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Murphy
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Terry McCarl?



blazer00
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Terry McCarl?



Terry's father Lenard was in the military.....I'm doubting Terry was born in Iowa, but not sure.



OhioSprinter
February 12, 2018 at 09:59:45 PM
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Rocky Hodges has 1 win...born in Des Moines



railfan33
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As well as Knoxville fans.



Super Chuck
February 13, 2018 at 08:57:48 AM
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Super Chuck says he'll take "Iowa WoO Winners" for $400, Alex.  Who is Mike Brooks?

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HoldenCaulfield
February 13, 2018 at 03:59:54 PM
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Super Chuck says he'll take "Iowa WoO Winners" for $400, Alex.  Who is Mike Brooks?

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So we have 2 so far, with McCarl still in question. At that rate, we'll have enough to fill out a Jeopardy category in somewhere around 50 years.


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Johnny Gibson
February 13, 2018 at 04:22:10 PM
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Mike Brooks does not have a World of Outlaws win.  He won a preliminary night at Manzanita in 1978, and a preliminary night at the Nationals in 1980.  Not counted as official WoO wins. 



macinblack2424
February 13, 2018 at 04:38:22 PM
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mccarl is from bonaparte iowa so im pretty sure he is iowa born 



railfan33
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Based on the WoO win list I’m counting 21 from Posse land. That doesn’t include Tim Sheaffer and Ed Lynch Jr from western Penna.



EZ2BME
February 13, 2018 at 06:08:48 PM
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WOW HARD TO BELIEVE ONLY 1 DRIVER From Iowa, THE CAPITAL OF SPRINTCAR RACING has won a WOO FEATURE RACE OVER 40 YEARS  ;)

 

 



IADIRT
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And people told me the demographics between Pennsylvania and Iowa were so similar when Badlands was going against Knoxville. I know I know don't bring it up. Just goes to show you there are a lot fewer race teams from Iowa (especially high dollar ones) when compared to Pennsylvania.



z-man
February 13, 2018 at 09:12:05 PM
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Need to consider the population also. 2013 Census: Pennsylvania 12,773,801 / Iowa 3,090,416. Just sayin'...z



newbeevur
February 13, 2018 at 10:46:33 PM
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Wow Rocky Hodges with one career win is the answer pending as someone said T Mac if he was born in the US. I didn't know Lenard spent time in the military, thanks for the heads up.


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longtimefan
February 14, 2018 at 04:02:46 AM
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Posted By: z-man on February 13 2018 at 09:12:05 PM

Need to consider the population also. 2013 Census: Pennsylvania 12,773,801 / Iowa 3,090,416. Just sayin'...z



When you are counting population of Pa. consider the cesspools at the Eastern and Western ends of Pa. aren't where the sprint car racing takes place. That is where a large percentage of Pa. people are but  the Sprint Car racing takes place in a few mostly rural counties of Southeastern Pa.



railfan33
February 14, 2018 at 07:11:47 AM
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Need to consider the population also. 2013 Census: Pennsylvania 12,773,801 / Iowa 3,090,416. Just sayin'...z



Geographic boundaries of “Posse land” where the majority of owners and drivers reside is limited to 12 (arguably) counties in southeastern Penna. 2015-2016 population 2,528,095. I doubt anyone in Philly even knows what a sprint car is.



Murphy
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     My bad. I thought this was just a general interest / trivia thing, not an invintation to join in another worthless pissing contest.

From the WoO website, here are the totals of WoO final night feature wins per home state of the driver. To be honest, I only went through the top 20 (Top 21 actually, as #20 is a tie). This doesn't take into account a bunch of guys with just a handful of wins or less. Nor does it enter into the other pissing match about whether someone like Hodnett is, or is not Posse, blah, blah, blah.

Top 12 states:
Indiana 839
Tennessee 370
North Dakota 249
Oklahoma 129
Ohio 126
Pennsylvania 125
California 108
South Dakota 107
Missouri 90
Minnesota 59
Connecticut 39

      As you can see, Pennsylvania is solidly in the top 6. A more interesting data point (at least based op the top 21) is that North Dakota, South Dakota, Missouri, Minnesota and Connecticut totals are for one driver!

     Anyway, it's the internet and folks will need to point out where everything I've written is wrong.

 



sapper211
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Posted By: Murphy on February 14 2018 at 08:07:22 AM

     My bad. I thought this was just a general interest / trivia thing, not an invintation to join in another worthless pissing contest.

From the WoO website, here are the totals of WoO final night feature wins per home state of the driver. To be honest, I only went through the top 20 (Top 21 actually, as #20 is a tie). This doesn't take into account a bunch of guys with just a handful of wins or less. Nor does it enter into the other pissing match about whether someone like Hodnett is, or is not Posse, blah, blah, blah.

Top 12 states:
Indiana 839
Tennessee 370
North Dakota 249
Oklahoma 129
Ohio 126
Pennsylvania 125
California 108
South Dakota 107
Missouri 90
Minnesota 59
Connecticut 39

      As you can see, Pennsylvania is solidly in the top 6. A more interesting data point (at least based op the top 21) is that North Dakota, South Dakota, Missouri, Minnesota and Connecticut totals are for one driver!

     Anyway, it's the internet and folks will need to point out where everything I've written is wrong.

 



Note to self, read the post you are responding to and understand what it says before you post.  Got it.  Thanx, disregard everything that follows.  :)

 

Seems like the SD total would have to include at least Zomer and Wolfgang, no?  Also, wouldn't the ND total have to include at least two drivers, Schatz and Dobmeier?


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Murphy
February 14, 2018 at 09:59:59 AM
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Posted By: sapper211 on February 14 2018 at 08:27:22 AM

Note to self, read the post you are responding to and understand what it says before you post.  Got it.  Thanx, disregard everything that follows.  Smile

 

Seems like the SD total would have to include at least Zomer and Wolfgang, no?  Also, wouldn't the ND total have to include at least two drivers, Schatz and Dobmeier?



    You're correct, but like I said. I only went through the top 21. Then again, I'm not sure if Dobmeier lives in Grand Forks North Dakota, or East Grand Forks Minnesota, so that might mess up the Minnesota count as well.

      If you tallied up all the states represented (and at least one foreign country) you'd see more listed in Pennsylvania, Ohio, California and several other states. Maybe EZ2BEME or somebody could do that tally. Maybe he already has. I don't know. Imagine how many * would be required. Did a Canadian ever win a WoO feature?

    In the end, we're all sprint car fans. It doesn't make a lick of sense to break it down to teams of us verses them. We should be glad that we have a common interest.

"My team rocks, so your team must suck!". Whatever. The only problem I have with Pennsylvania sprint cars is that their season starts like, end of February, 1st part of March(?) Ours in South Dakota starts about never.



Langhorne
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Posted By: railfan33 on February 14 2018 at 07:11:47 AM

Geographic boundaries of “Posse land” where the majority of owners and drivers reside is limited to 12 (arguably) counties in southeastern Penna. 2015-2016 population 2,528,095. I doubt anyone in Philly even knows what a sprint car is.



I hestitate to reply to such an obviously stupid post, but as another (in)famous poster to this site soften says, "Sometimes you just have to pick the low hanging fruit."

Railfan33 you can rest assured there are, and always have been, more than a few people in the Philly area who know what a sprint car is.  And by the Philly area I am including the immediate suburbs, where those milliions of people you don't want to claim as living in 'central Pa', live.  Perhaps you have heard of Frankie Kerr, who grew up in one of those suburbs and started out driving a car from another.  Or maybe you've heard of Fred Rahmer, similar story there.  Damn, they might even have a victory or two against the WoO, whattaya think?  And there are quite a few more, and check this out, WoO didn't invent sprint cars, they were being raced in the Philly area long before Ted came along.

Ever heard of Hatfield, or Reading, East Windsor, Grandview, Vineland, or maybe Langhorne?  (All located in the Philly metro area, according to Wikipedia.)

Or are you one of those sprint car experts who never ventures outside of Pennsyltucky?



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