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Topic: Kyle Larson vs the Posse: Round 2 (PA Speedweek Edition)
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cubicdollars
June 23, 2017 at 04:27:47 PM
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Kyle Larson vs the Posse this time?
Option's Votes  
Gets spanked again? 6 22 %
Spanks the Posse this time? 18 67 %
Just lucky he is not running the Grove? 3 11 %
Total Votes 27  

Larson is supposedly racing Sun-Wed of PA Speedweek. Will he fare better this time with the Posse since he isn't able to run the Grove? Come out and attend the weekday shows to find out... https://www.paspeedweeks.com/


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


Anthony Corini
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June 23, 2017 at 05:18:20 PM
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I would be absolutely stunned if he leaves the area winless. Path Valley and Grandview wins I have him down for. McFadden could stop him at GView though, he has a win there coming. 



laudarevsonhunt
June 23, 2017 at 05:27:56 PM
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he's cherry picking



revjimk
June 23, 2017 at 05:48:33 PM
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I'm a Posse fan but would love to see him do well. He was awful a few years ago at Speedweek, but I think it was his car.

Path Valley is his best chance, IMHO... bullring

I'd love to see him get in a duel with Lance....



egras
June 23, 2017 at 05:50:44 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on June 23 2017 at 04:27:47 PM

Larson is supposedly racing Sun-Wed of PA Speedweek. Will he fare better this time with the Posse since he isn't able to run the Grove? Come out and attend the weekday shows to find out... https://www.paspeedweeks.com/



I hope he can win.  If he doesn't, his career will be meaningless. 

(Sarcasm for those about ready to throw a fit)



revjimk
June 23, 2017 at 05:52:53 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on June 23 2017 at 04:27:47 PM

Larson is supposedly racing Sun-Wed of PA Speedweek. Will he fare better this time with the Posse since he isn't able to run the Grove? Come out and attend the weekday shows to find out... https://www.paspeedweeks.com/



You left out my option in your poll: "No idea, can't wait"....



GTigers55
June 23, 2017 at 06:02:28 PM
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on June 23 2017 at 05:27:56 PM

he's cherry picking



He's racing as much as Chip Ganassi allows him to.



Johnny Utah
June 23, 2017 at 06:37:42 PM
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Posted By: Anthony Corini on June 23 2017 at 05:18:20 PM

I would be absolutely stunned if he leaves the area winless. Path Valley and Grandview wins I have him down for. McFadden could stop him at GView though, he has a win there coming. 



Pretty much, word for word, what I was thinking. Weird.



Early Cuyler
June 23, 2017 at 07:38:51 PM
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Pubic gets excited when anyone from out of trailer park area in Pennsylvania can lose. Sumbitch you need to get of the COUCH son. There's badass racing all over the country,  but no you just want to stroke your self inflicted ego more and that's a crying shame for the rest of us sprint car fan's across this country. 


Where's my beer or scotch on the rocks? God-damn it! 40 
plus years of dirt track racing in these old veins might 
get me condemned by the EPA.

minthess
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June 23, 2017 at 08:50:08 PM
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If he has an ounce of sticky and something more to lean on than the light poles, he spank them like he does everywhere.  Grit, talent, balls, will to win etc does one no good most nights in pa on our hard smooth dry surfaces.  Give him some tricky rough and he'll show us our current stars are as average as the equipment they compete with. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

sprintfast
June 23, 2017 at 09:20:50 PM
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Posse is way down..... I bet they don't even get a win against the WOO this whole year!



fiXXXer
June 23, 2017 at 10:39:25 PM
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Posted By: minthess on June 23 2017 at 08:50:08 PM

If he has an ounce of sticky and something more to lean on than the light poles, he spank them like he does everywhere.  Grit, talent, balls, will to win etc does one no good most nights in pa on our hard smooth dry surfaces.  Give him some tricky rough and he'll show us our current stars are as average as the equipment they compete with. 



Couldn't agree more. Give him a real honest to god curb instead of a Port Royal paper thin strip of watered dust, and he'll do just fine.



longtimefan
June 24, 2017 at 05:24:23 AM
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A couple of things are certain.

1-They will all be running the same track which won't be prepared for any one driver.

2-Port Royals track condition won't matter since he will not be running there.



cubicdollars
June 24, 2017 at 07:08:07 AM
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Anyone has to admire the height of possephobia that makes world class racers like Kasey Kahne and Kyle Larson hire Posse crew chief Lee Stauffer to help them win in Central PA. Hats off for your determination. Hopefully Smoke is at least paying attention, either for himself or his All Stars which are in a 47 year slump.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


minthess
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June 24, 2017 at 07:40:45 AM
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 24 2017 at 05:24:23 AM

A couple of things are certain.

1-They will all be running the same track which won't be prepared for any one driver.

2-Port Royals track condition won't matter since he will not be running there.



The same can be said about tracks he will be running at.  Hagerstown + water + Larson could equal 120 mph slide jobs ending in wheel stands like the old days.  Unfortunately most PA fans are totally stoked with a parched slow surface as long as the guy winning uses a PA mailing address??????????????????????


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

longtimemitchfan
June 24, 2017 at 11:31:27 AM
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Has he said what car he will be running the last time he was at the Grove he drove the Buch 13 in the National Open and a beat up and tired #1 during speedweek after running Ohio.

I THINK ITS GREAT that the Nascar point leader coming off a win has the desire to race for pocket change at tracks hes not familiar with when the rest of the feild will be trying to beat him.

Lets hope the weather is good those four days so the fans can show up to witness one of the greats on his way to superstardom.

Looks like Hagerstown will be the only matchup between Larson and Lance. 



PA Posse Fan
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June 24, 2017 at 11:52:07 AM
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Can't wait to see him at Path Valley. As mentioned already, he's got a great shot to win there and Grandview for sure. Has a shot to anywhere!



fiXXXer
June 24, 2017 at 12:21:02 PM
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This message was edited on June 24, 2017 at 12:32:13 PM by fiXXXer
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Posted By: minthess on June 24 2017 at 07:40:45 AM

The same can be said about tracks he will be running at.  Hagerstown + water + Larson could equal 120 mph slide jobs ending in wheel stands like the old days.  Unfortunately most PA fans are totally stoked with a parched slow surface as long as the guy winning uses a PA mailing address??????????????????????



What you described brings back fond memories of the classic dual between Rahmer & Jeff Shepard back in 2008. One of the best races I've ever witnessed. We sure don't see much of that these days since the Central PA tracks (with the exception of Lincoln most of the time) decided that the best method of track prep is to make it 3/4 pavement. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the hell out of going to the races and all in all, sprint car racing is still exciting but Central PA's obsession with beating the cushion down to nothing more than slightly more moist dust is making it easier to do other stuff when the weekend comes. Tonight at Port, they'll take a couple dozen fire trucks & parade them around the track for a half hour effectively beating it to a pulp. Gotta give them credit for being creative but I'm glad I won't be there to see it.

 



HoldenCaulfield
June 24, 2017 at 01:38:54 PM
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You guys have no idea wehat you are talking about. A heavy wet track will give you a high speed parade around the cushion with little passing 90% of the time. The good racing happens when the track slicks off and the cushion moves up to the fence and it actually takes some skill and balls to run there. Port nails it more often than not and when the track is too dry, they take the time to add moisture around the top so you still see a good feature. A heavy wet track is good for bullring racing but not for half-miles.     


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bigbrad115
June 24, 2017 at 02:13:14 PM
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I talk to Steve Swartz  almost every week at Port. When I ask him about the track prep, his reply is  "The driver's want it smooth and slick."

So, the way I see it, The track is just giving the DRIVERS what THEY want.  Don't blame the promoters or the people who work on and do the track prep. 

With that being said, Anybody who has been going to any of the big half miles in PA should already know that if they give the drivers a wet heavy track, the racing lane will be narrow and they will just be single file, hammer down around the curb. It is like watching sprint cars on a high speed rail. That is not the fault of the drivers. I blame that on the rules package that has been adopted by all three of the tracks that run 410 sprint cars on a weekly basis.

I always look forward to going to small bull rings like Path Valley for their 410 shows. I really miss the 410 shows that were held at Silver Springs. Just imagine what it would be like if they would make the surface at Path Vally heavy and a bit choppy, THAT would be some great racing! 

     

 



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