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December 02, 2025 at
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We discussed costs on another thread. 5 more laps is 15% closer to an engine rebuild. 15% percent more tire and fuel used and more opportunity to wreck a car. Wouldn't cost more in pit passes or toter expenses but something to consider. Basing this off a "big time" type race with 3 hot laps, 3 time trial laps and an 8 or10 lap heat.
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December 02, 2025 at
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Posted By: TWSprunk on November 30 2025 at 12:28:27 PM
I don't disagree with you that pricing is important. But dirt track racing in general is one of the most economical forms of entertainment you can choose to attend.
Knoxville is $15 adults. Kids under 12 free. Have you attended any other entertainment event? Monster truck show? A concert? College football? Pro sports? NASCAR? If families and kids aren't coming I would suggest it's not because of ticket prices. Tracks do have to make it entertaining. They do have to keep everyone's attention and interest. And they have to get done at a decent time so families can get home. And look back on the evening and say "we'd absolutely love to do that again!"
Sometimes the things that make it a great evening for the younger crowd and families goes against what the old guard wants to see. "I've been at races until 3 am" "It's not fair that team didn't get more time in the work area" Ad nauseum. If we want the sport to survive there needs to be some flexibility To make it workable to attract families. And it's not the ticket prices right now making a difference. Those are already reasonable compared to any alternative.
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Ticket prices are definitely not the issue. I work in the technical wing of a small college. I see students up and down the hallway getting Doordash Jimmy Johns sandwiches and Starbucks every single day. They will spend $10-20 a day on something they've determined is important to them. Taking my family of 5 to see the Blackhawks, Cubs, or Bears play is a $1000-$1500 expense by the time we get lodging, food, and drinks. It's not the cost. If you want to be there, you'll find a way to be there. If you have better things to do, you'll find better things to do.
When people complain about the cost of a ticket right now, with what everything in life costs, it makes me laugh. Ticket prices at the sprint car races have almost defied inflation unlike all of the other costs in racing which seem to be right in line. I think I was paying $10 to get in our local track back in the mid-90's for a fender show.
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December 02, 2025 at
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Posted By: egras on December 02 2025 at 10:20:55 AM
Ticket prices are definitely not the issue. I work in the technical wing of a small college. I see students up and down the hallway getting Doordash Jimmy Johns sandwiches and Starbucks every single day. They will spend $10-20 a day on something they've determined is important to them. Taking my family of 5 to see the Blackhawks, Cubs, or Bears play is a $1000-$1500 expense by the time we get lodging, food, and drinks. It's not the cost. If you want to be there, you'll find a way to be there. If you have better things to do, you'll find better things to do.
When people complain about the cost of a ticket right now, with what everything in life costs, it makes me laugh. Ticket prices at the sprint car races have almost defied inflation unlike all of the other costs in racing which seem to be right in line. I think I was paying $10 to get in our local track back in the mid-90's for a fender show.
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I've mentioned this exact thing in previous posts. IMO the Knoxville weekly event to see 60+ sprint cars each week for $15 is a steal and has been for years. When was the last time they raised prices? I understand the goal is to get butts in the seats as they have the capacity. At some point lowering the ticket price or raising won't affect those who will attend a race.
I've seen the same thing at my work place with the younger generation willing to pay someone to deliver their happy meal, that is a mile away and then tip the driver.
At Knoxville, and this is me beating the dead horse again, we're so fortunate; the facility, class of competition, no fenders, well ran, good concessions, nice parking, #1 track in the world, and it's less than an hour away.
What would the tipping point for some of you to say " nope, too much, not going"
For me, going to Knoxville weekly, I'd pay $30 ish to see their weekly show.
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December 02, 2025 at
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Posted By: egras on December 02 2025 at 10:20:55 AM
Ticket prices are definitely not the issue. I work in the technical wing of a small college. I see students up and down the hallway getting Doordash Jimmy Johns sandwiches and Starbucks every single day. They will spend $10-20 a day on something they've determined is important to them. Taking my family of 5 to see the Blackhawks, Cubs, or Bears play is a $1000-$1500 expense by the time we get lodging, food, and drinks. It's not the cost. If you want to be there, you'll find a way to be there. If you have better things to do, you'll find better things to do.
When people complain about the cost of a ticket right now, with what everything in life costs, it makes me laugh. Ticket prices at the sprint car races have almost defied inflation unlike all of the other costs in racing which seem to be right in line. I think I was paying $10 to get in our local track back in the mid-90's for a fender show.
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Do you do that Black hawks.Cubs Bears thing every week? A lot people will spend the money to go Say Eldora or an Out Law race a few times a year as a special treat. Going to the local track every week is a different thing. For instance my local track is Port Royal a regulae show is $20 for adults $10 for students, so $60 plus concessions for a regular show for a family of four. More than half their showes any more are more than that usually close to $80 or $100 for admisions. That gets to be a lot to attend every week for a working class family. I don't have a problem with adult admissions but you gotta help the families out if you want future fans. Comparing what spoiled brat college kids spend on anything is hardly relevent as few of them ever heard of a sprint car. When they start paying their own bills they will change their ways somewhat or be in trouble. Yea I know I see 60 year olds who haven't learned yet.
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December 02, 2025 at
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Posted By: longtimefan on December 02 2025 at 11:39:09 AM
Do you do that Black hawks.Cubs Bears thing every week? A lot people will spend the money to go Say Eldora or an Out Law race a few times a year as a special treat. Going to the local track every week is a different thing. For instance my local track is Port Royal a regulae show is $20 for adults $10 for students, so $60 plus concessions for a regular show for a family of four. More than half their showes any more are more than that usually close to $80 or $100 for admisions. That gets to be a lot to attend every week for a working class family. I don't have a problem with adult admissions but you gotta help the families out if you want future fans. Comparing what spoiled brat college kids spend on anything is hardly relevent as few of them ever heard of a sprint car. When they start paying their own bills they will change their ways somewhat or be in trouble. Yea I know I see 60 year olds who haven't learned yet.
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Do I go to those events each week? Do you think I'm a drug dealer? ;) I try to do 2 or 3 per year. My point was that we are nowhere near the costs of the major sports, and I can go to an entire season of sprint car races vs. just 1 of these other events.
$20 for adults and $10 for students is an absolute steal for 3-4 hours of entertainment. Steal. $60 at concessions? That's your own problem. Grill some burgers at the house before you go to the track and go full. If you can get your family in there for $80-100, you will have a very difficult time finding anything else you can do anywhere for that amount of money.
"Spoiled brat college kids" is not what I am viewing at my community college. Most of these students have nothing and get nothing from their parents. You're thinking of a different type of college experience than what I'm viewing. They either bring public transportation to class, get a ride, or drive a car with 4 flat tires. My point being that it's priorities that make them decide to do this. If it's your priority to go to the races, you'll go if they double the price. (which would be good for the future of the track by the way)
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