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Topic: How fast would a 410 sprint car go at Talledega?
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beezr2002
September 22, 2017 at 01:38:42 PM
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Not sure about mile track top speeds, gotta be 160+ with a winged car. Talladega is kinda ridiculous to even think about. I was down at Bristol the first year they put dirt on it and it was damn fast but don't remember hearing any top speeds but I imagine it might have been close to 140 or so on the straights. Sammy was bad fast there also but he did cause a scene on the front stretch with his pissy attitude, he did dominate the race though. Not a big fan of the slammer but he always seemed to run up front on the fastest tracks.

Hey Chathamracefan, you going to go to the Fairbury sprint races in Oct. One of your posts on another site made me check that place out this year, thanks for the tip. Wish I could be there in Oct., That little place is just super!



dirtracer74
September 22, 2017 at 04:57:51 PM
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This message was edited on September 22, 2017 at 05:02:01 PM by dirtracer74

Well, bummer. Tallest gear we can get on IRacing is a 4:86. 

At a 4:86, it tops out at 152 mph or so at Daytona, 8600 rpm's. About 2.5 gallons per lap of methanol burnt. 30 gallon tank, i ran out of fuel just before completeing the 10th lap. Best time was a 59.196. I wonder how much draft would play in to this. Might have to get a couple friends together for a test session, lol. 

Winged 410. Wing all the way down, and forward. 1.500" bars on all 4 corers, -4.0 turns on each corner. Tie down shcoks on all 4 corners. Can only go as low as 8" of stagger also. Softer bars made the car move a lot more on the straights, and it was hard to control any corrections. Dragging the left rear frame rail in the corners. 

In short, there is 10 minutes of my time I will never get back, lol. 



cubicdollars
September 22, 2017 at 05:07:30 PM
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Hanagan holds the track record at Talledega with a 10.998...lol.

The highway down the street? 180mph stock with wings flat. Special body and wings you would think close to 200 but would be neat to find out. Maybe Humpy Wheeler will come out of retirement to help the Frances out.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


linbob
September 22, 2017 at 05:25:47 PM
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Posted By: ROTORGLOW on September 22 2017 at 01:51:02 AM

Check out the speeds at Belleville Highbanks with a 410, I witnessed a race there I believe was 2005 and first time they went by I couldnt believe the speeds. I think McMahan has the record their at 174mph.   Ive been to Eldora and I think Belleview is much faster, track is huge and round and banked.  Big league speeds!



I saw a listing at 128 mph.  Bellview is a circle track, no straights.  You can not go as fast in a circle as you can with straights.



jdfast
September 23, 2017 at 03:04:45 AM
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I bet this is one of the very few tracks a non wing USAC car would kick the crap out of a WOO car  ;)

at these speeds, the tires would likely be the biggest issuie.  I saw winged sprint cars at kern, they had to lift down the straightaway due to tires and were full throttle through the corners.  

 



alum.427
September 23, 2017 at 05:16:44 AM
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lift due to the tires ?



RxIxCxH
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September 23, 2017 at 08:54:35 AM
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Love this topic, strange question.  First a quick reminder, Talledega is asphalt.  Tires would be a huge factor.  I'd like to see Damion Gardner's Bonneville car properly shoed by our friends at Hoosier Racing Tire.  Long straights and massive banking would make a wingless car faster.  A few small fins and flaps are needed for stability.  If you think for a second this car wouldn't top any stock car track record, yer nuts.  It's half the weight and more power.  Somebody call Paul Allen and tell him we have a new verture for him, it will take his check book to try it.  After that the biggest challenge is going to find someone to strap in and drive.  250mph is possible. 

RIch M



RodinCanada
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September 28, 2017 at 12:30:23 AM
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What happened to the Syracuse Mile?



beezr2002
September 28, 2017 at 07:17:15 AM
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The moody mile has been shut down.



RodinCanada
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September 28, 2017 at 09:04:08 AM
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Why? Noise in the city? Run down too far? Real estate buy out? Is it still there and closed or gone?



rolldog
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September 28, 2017 at 10:18:20 AM
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250 MPH in an 88" wheelbase car?  Not for me!



FORD97
September 28, 2017 at 10:28:43 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on September 28 2017 at 09:04:08 AM

Why? Noise in the city? Run down too far? Real estate buy out? Is it still there and closed or gone?



Do they have Google in Canada? 

Your incessent questions on this page that could be quickly answered with a quick Google search lead me to believe you've never heard of it.


Unless I know you, I don't care what you think.

revjimk
September 28, 2017 at 12:37:59 PM
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This message was edited on September 28, 2017 at 12:49:36 PM by revjimk
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Posted By: FORD97 on September 28 2017 at 10:28:43 AM

Do they have Google in Canada? 

Your incessent questions on this page that could be quickly answered with a quick Google search lead me to believe you've never heard of it.



Don't give him a hard time for asking questions!

His questions start good discussions, especially compared to some of this silly season BS

RodinCanada, feel free to ask anything you want...



Murphy
September 28, 2017 at 01:06:53 PM
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Posted By: FORD97 on September 28 2017 at 10:28:43 AM

Do they have Google in Canada? 

Your incessent questions on this page that could be quickly answered with a quick Google search lead me to believe you've never heard of it.



We could just tell everyone to look it up on Google and there would be no reason at all to have a message board. Life would sure be less interesting if we let that happen. Better that we share what we have- the common bond of an interest in sprint cars than razz someone about something they may not posses- local acces to Google.



FORD97
September 28, 2017 at 01:32:58 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on September 28 2017 at 01:06:53 PM

We could just tell everyone to look it up on Google and there would be no reason at all to have a message board. Life would sure be less interesting if we let that happen. Better that we share what we have- the common bond of an interest in sprint cars than razz someone about something they may not posses- local acces to Google.



Explain to me how one would get to this site and somehow not be able to access a search engine?


Unless I know you, I don't care what you think.

beezr2002
September 28, 2017 at 02:16:05 PM
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This message was edited on September 28, 2017 at 02:18:57 PM by beezr2002

Back around the late 90's I heard about this site. I typed in the website and found Hoseheads, didn't use google to find it. Rod in Canada causes no problems on here asking questions, he is not trying to antagonize people or bash on people it just seems he is curious. Were you always so brilliant that you never asked about things you didn't know or were unsure of? Would it kill you to post something positive  for a change?



FORD97
September 28, 2017 at 02:44:00 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on September 28 2017 at 02:16:05 PM

Back around the late 90's I heard about this site. I typed in the website and found Hoseheads, didn't use google to find it. Rod in Canada causes no problems on here asking questions, he is not trying to antagonize people or bash on people it just seems he is curious. Were you always so brilliant that you never asked about things you didn't know or were unsure of? Would it kill you to post something positive  for a change?



Sorry, stupid people irritate me.

I post positive things all the time. If I thought positive posts would kill stupid people, I'd post nothing else.


Unless I know you, I don't care what you think.

beezr2002
September 28, 2017 at 03:37:53 PM
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Stupid people irratate me also, but curious people don't. One of my best buds told me years ago that being around stupid people makes you live longer. LOL. At this rate I should live to be a couple of hundred years old.



revjimk
September 28, 2017 at 05:27:04 PM
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Posted By: FORD97 on September 28 2017 at 02:44:00 PM

Sorry, stupid people irritate me.

I post positive things all the time. If I thought positive posts would kill stupid people, I'd post nothing else.



He could be a near genius, but new to sprint cars. No need to insult him

& he might get facts from Google, but not back & forth conversation

You've been in plenty of controversies here. The guy is just asking innocent questions. Lighten the hell up....



sprintcarfanatic
September 28, 2017 at 05:37:05 PM
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How fast could a sprint car go if a sprint car could go fast. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhahahaLMFAOhahahahaha.



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