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So in regard to the WoO rule that drivers must race in the WoO sanctioned events, does this not affect Gravel because when he is missing he wont be in a sprint car?

Does the JJR team need to fill the seat and attempt to qualify to maintain premium status or whatever they call it?

So in regard to the WoO rule that drivers must race in the WoO sanctioned events, does this not affect Gravel because when he is missing he wont be in a sprint car?

Does the JJR team need to fill the seat and attempt to qualify to maintain premium status or whatever they call it?

Interesting numbers about Gravel. I know we discussed if he would get to within 100 points of 1st and he did. But being 82 points back I also saw he had 4 top 10s less than Sweet and Schatz. 11th spot awards 22 points less than 1st I think, so that multiplied by 4 is 88 points and he would be part of a 3 way mix for first, all single digits apart. It is pretty cool the way it is but....

I know  it's a could of would of thing, but the math interests me

Well looks like Gordon was the exact guy to go and open up a spot for Gravel in the truck ranks haha

Ok so another question. It appears the WoO keep driver and owner points separate, so if the JJR team gets most points as a team with 2 or 3 different drivers, who becomes the WoO points champion?

Has a team ever won with a shared seat program,, could it be done?

Gravel has a mediocre start to the season but wouldn’t be surprised if he had the most points from about May 1 onward. 

Ok. I took a little time and crunched some numbers to test your hypothesis because I was curious as well. Using your hypothetical date of May 1^st puts us in the tiniest quandary though because there was no race on May 1^st. Sandwiched around the date were two races, one at Lake Ozark on April 26, and another at Eldora on May 10^th. So I used Lake Ozark as the first cutoff. From Lake Ozark to Charlotte in November, Gravel and Sweet tied for the most amount of points with 8374. Schatz was behind them by 14 markers with 8360.

If you started your tallying with the May 10^th race at Eldora and worked from there Gravel did score the most points with a total of 8228.  Sweet trailed at 8224, and Schatz was third with 8216. Had Gravel started the year a little bit better we might have had an insane points battle involving three guys slugging it out in the Queen City for the title.

By the way, I used 90 show up points for the Nationals. Is that correct? Quite honestly it doesn’t make a difference “gap wise” because I counted Knoxville as the same for all three drivers. It would just change the overall total numbers, but I think everyone gets the idea.

Thanks for this! I was curious as well. How did you compile the data? Were you able to find points standings from those points earlier in the season? If so where did you find them?

I manually checked each race result from the Outlaws website and then put each driver's point total from that race into a spreadsheet. I then added the totals up.

Ok. I took a little time and crunched some numbers to test your hypothesis because I was curious as well. Using your hypothetical date of May 1^st puts us in the tiniest quandary though because there was no race on May 1^st. Sandwiched around the date were two races, one at Lake Ozark on April 26, and another at Eldora on May 10^th. So I used Lake Ozark as the first cutoff. From Lake Ozark to Charlotte in November, Gravel and Sweet tied for the most amount of points with 8374. Schatz was behind them by 14 markers with 8360.

If you started your tallying with the May 10^th race at Eldora and worked from there Gravel did score the most points with a total of 8228.  Sweet trailed at 8224, and Schatz was third with 8216. Had Gravel started the year a little bit better we might have had an insane points battle involving three guys slugging it out in the Queen City for the title.

By the way, I used 90 show up points for the Nationals. Is that correct? Quite honestly it doesn’t make a difference “gap wise” because I counted Knoxville as the same for all three drivers. It would just change the overall total numbers, but I think everyone gets the idea.

Thought so... couldn't have been a quick task haha. Was wondering if there was a tool or site I wasn't aware of.

I believe Kings Royal is also 90. Any race that doesn’t follow the normal format gets the 90 point treatment. 

Ok. I took a little time and crunched some numbers to test your hypothesis because I was curious as well. Using your hypothetical date of May 1^st puts us in the tiniest quandary though because there was no race on May 1^st. Sandwiched around the date were two races, one at Lake Ozark on April 26, and another at Eldora on May 10^th. So I used Lake Ozark as the first cutoff. From Lake Ozark to Charlotte in November, Gravel and Sweet tied for the most amount of points with 8374. Schatz was behind them by 14 markers with 8360.

If you started your tallying with the May 10^th race at Eldora and worked from there Gravel did score the most points with a total of 8228.  Sweet trailed at 8224, and Schatz was third with 8216. Had Gravel started the year a little bit better we might have had an insane points battle involving three guys slugging it out in the Queen City for the title.

By the way, I used 90 show up points for the Nationals. Is that correct? Quite honestly it doesn’t make a difference “gap wise” because I counted Knoxville as the same for all three drivers. It would just change the overall total numbers, but I think everyone gets the idea.

Thanks for doing that...its very interesting. One thing kind of on the same topic, I don't remember Gravel having a single DNF on the season and I don't think he bent a top wing all season other than from him and Jaxx doing wing dances. Or am I "MISREMEMBERING "  LOL.

One of the most amazing stats from 2018 was Brad Sweet transferred to every WoO A Main through his heat and didn't have to run a single B Main all season.  That wasn't the case this year, but THAT was pretty consistant.