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jimmyvan1977
May 26, 2014 at 12:04:10 PM
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Posted By: Bkcr on February 26 2014 at 03:14:22 PM

 

Ihave a photo of Karl Vanbeber winning at Tulsa in 1975. Iwill mail it to anyone in the Vanbeber family,if they  want it. Just let me know where to mail it.

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I i would be happy to mail to anyone in have a photo of Karl Vanbeber at the Tulsa Speedway from the night in 1975 that he won the feature. i would mail it to anyone in the Vanbeber fail,if they would like to have. just give me the address to mail it to

 

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Hey Ray it's been a long time since I have posted,but I would love the picture. My address is 1110 San Jacinto street, Rosenberg,Tx 77471. Thank you



BillyDamLux
May 31, 2014 at 10:45:30 AM
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Posted By: TulsaTV on December 03 2008 at 04:45:55 PM

I know Ron Lux died at the Tulsa Speedway in 1966 (not precisely the late 60s-early 70s timeframe, but close), and I saw a mention of Arnie Knepper involved in a lot of incidents in the 60s, but I didn't see it established that Knepper had anything to do with Lux' death. Can anyone pin this down?



I know my father died at Tulsa in 1966.  I also heard Johnny Rutherford was there in the announcers booth.  (His accident resulting in two broken arms occuring slightly earlier).  I had never been informed of intentional malice until discovering this article on the internet a few years ago.  Just a racing "deal" that changed the lives of our family everafter.  



Bkcr
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June 13, 2014 at 04:58:04 PM
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Posted By: jimmyvan1977 on May 26 2014 at 12:04:10 PM

Hey Ray it's been a long time since I have posted,but I would love the picture. My address is 1110 San Jacinto street, Rosenberg,Tx 77471. Thank you



Jimmy I have a letter in the mail to you and will mail the program when I get a big envelop. I think you will like it ,we all should be proud  and know what our faily has done. Why did  Karl move to Housto? I used to talk to him all the time at where he worked here in Tulsa and he just disappered. My son lives in you area. He lives between Rosenberg and Richmond. He works at Breakenridge. If you have e mail please email me at 1ray6255@att.net or call 918-6649172. I assume you want the program mailed to the address above

Ray Cate



Bkcr
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June 15, 2014 at 01:28:27 PM
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Jimmy Vanbeber, I was talking to my daughter in law a few minutes ago. She is from Rosenberg and wentt to school with somebody in your family. Her last name was Novestad or something like that. I have a letter in the mail to you.

 

Ray



redbandana
February 14, 2015 at 03:17:17 AM
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Posted By: Sprint97 on December 02 2008 at 08:20:06 AM

I ran my 1 st car at Tulsa in 1961. It was probavly in June. That night, a sprint with a roll cage wrecked on the back stretch and the supposedly the seat belt was not latched or broke & the driver was killed. That is the word circulated that night. Most of Tulsa cars at that time were sprints converted to what they advertised as, "California Super Modified". Jack Belk won in Al Weilands #37 & Bud Hatch ran 2 nd in his own #87.

Luther



On Sept 2nd 1961 at Tulsa Fairgrounds Speedway ....BIll Dillard in his car #1/2 was running late and jumped in his car without his helmet on to HOT LAP it...He fliped it and the bars beat him to death.He was bounding around in that car like a rag doll as it flipped..I can remmber Races as far back as 1959..But this wreck is one at age 6  that has stuck with me forever....He was such a mess that they tried to hide what happend and keep people away.Peopl were backing away with ther hands on there nees bent over...He died at 9pm of head injurys  and possible chest  injurys is what was told to my dad  Jack Belk..

On the way home i told my dad what i had seen ...And told dad Bill didnt have his helmet on...Dad knew then how much i had seen .Dad made me shut up becuase Mom was setting there....Dad said know you know why you wear your helmet on that Go Kart...He never had a problem with me wearing a helmet ever again

 

Also Bud Morgan was killed at Tulsa on May 20th 1961...I am not sure of all the details on it but i do know it happened.This may be the one Luther was talking about on the post before this one..


Win as if you are use to it.And lose as if you enjoyed 
it for a change.Its hard to get to the top and alot 
harder to stay there.

redbandana
February 14, 2015 at 05:30:00 AM
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on December 03 2008 at 11:39:05 AM

I believe somebody I was talking to in Parsons, KS a while back mentioned he was at the track where Harvey Shane was killed. Could it have been Coffeyville, (fairgrounds) Dewey, Iola. This conversation came up back when Bud Purkey passed away.



The Coffeyville Ks rumor about Harvey Shane is this.TRUE STORY..One night at Walter Johnson park in Coffeyville Ks..Happy Hart tried to pass Havey Shane on the outside on the front shot...Harvey tried to take Happy out by running him off the top of the track in turn one..Tipacal  Harvey move....But they got hooked together and they both went off turn one together..They went througth a fence killing one lady pretty quicky and another died the next morning. One young girl lost a foot,,and several more were injured badly.....Some people were setting in chairs and some on top of cars,,or in the back of pickup trucks.

There was never another Race ran in the City limits of Coffeyville.The laws suits pilled up..This crash changed the Insurance Laws on Motor Sports in the 4 state area of Missouri--Kansas --Oklahoma- Arkansas,,Mandates were writin for what happed there...It did cause 2 to 4  tracks that i know of to close because of rising Insurance rates.But that was probably a good thing for them to be insured..

I do not list the date on this for this reason.. Enough people have suffered from this deal already...I have talked to 3 eye witnesess  that were fans and 2 drivers that were there.And it was a topic around the race tracks for some time back then..As one drive said .. Harvey Shane  is died so i can tell it all now.They all looked over there shoulder when talking about it back then incase Harvey was close...His story match an old woman that is still alive that was there and 2 other people one that was related to a injuried person in the ordeal...And i do have 3 different New paper deals that were wrote on it from that time..One lady said  when i got married my last name changed and  nobody knew who i was ..I was glad to forget about it...

 

 

 


Win as if you are use to it.And lose as if you enjoyed 
it for a change.Its hard to get to the top and alot 
harder to stay there.

Chillebowl
May 27, 2016 at 12:34:59 PM
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Posted By: brian26 on December 03 2008 at 08:59:04 PM

Says he died July 16, 1966 at Tulsa.



Ron Lux died in Tulsa in 1966, I was there. I was 10 years old and I remember it like it was yesterday. He got out of shape coming out of turn 4, hit a rut going into 1, and barrel rolled along the top of the fence right through the cockpit. First and only time I saw a racer get killed with my own eyes, and I'll never forget it.



Verle's Daughter
September 20, 2017 at 05:08:17 PM
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Posted By: Satellite1 on July 14 2012 at 01:31:09 PM

Photos My error



Thank you for posting these pictures!  Verle was my Dad.  I was the youngest of his daughters.  I was only 10 when he passed in 1974. If anyone here can tell me of any racing stories about him or his cars, I'd love to hear them!  Thanks!





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