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Exactly, and this technical advantage needs to be limited, because in a race that has 50-100 of the best open wheel dirt drivers, its stupid to only have 2 cars capable of winning. I feel that the fans are getting robbed of seeing the best of the best compete for the driller.

What is not legal on front ends????? Look up any rule book and tell me if they mention not legal front ends. I do not see a sway bar on the front and no one has mentioned a Drinan DriBar on rear, but both of these a legal anyway. Also if you just race 1 race a year you should not have engine problems. I think Esslinger should be getting more motor orders, if you can not beat them join them.

Its not that simple. Just millimeters make a difference. The swindells aren't the only ones building a car for the chili bowl, they just are the only ones that have figured out this perfect combination. You can't copy it just by looking at their cars. My problem isn't the swindells themselves, its the competition. Its not very exciting to have the same car win every year. The swindells haven't done anything wrong. Sammy has built a genius car, but allowing the best car builder/set-up man to go crazy and build a far superior car takes away from the race, and takes this race, which is supposed to be the best of the best from a variety of racing mixing it up. The swindells are turning this into a 24 hours of le mans like mechanical race. But this is a driver's race, not a manufacturer's race. I don't really want to see Audi build a midget and come in and dominate the chili bowl for a decade.

You are kidding right? Yes people have complained for years about WOO and the fact is Sammy won most of his races before 1999 at the Chili Bowl. So are you saying that in the last 15 years nobody has come up with the so called magic car.Get real!!! And Tony would complain if they hung him with a new rope..He doesn't mind going to other peoples series and crashing a bunch of them..But whines when he gets beat,,That is sad

Can’t run with the big dogs , if you’re gonna pee like a puppy 

Good God, have you ever seen those cars in person? Other than the tail tank they look damn near exactly like every other car there in the pits. I bet you the ranch you could put Sammy in anybodys car down there with his shock package and set-up and he would run just as well as he does in his car. Pull you pubes out of those wadded up panties and relax buddy, did Sammy and Kevin take a single dollar out of paycheck this weekend?

Sammy won 1989, 1992, 1996 and 1998. He didn't win most of his races at the chili bowl before 1999. And he sure as hell didn't dominate for 5 years in a row. Back then the field was a lot smaller, and it wasn't worth spending the money to build a special car. Sammy was a damn good driver and won 4 chili bowls back then, but he never dominated like this. He won with driving skill back then. But notice, he never even won 2 in a row, in fact no one did. Now all of a sudden he and his son win 5 in a row in the same two cars. Before people brought basic midgets to put on a race. Now the swindells have finally took advantage of the open rules and built a superior car. In order to beat them, someone will have to build a car superior to theirs, and the mechanical dominance will transfer to a different team. This is what I am afraid of, and why rules on weight and dimensions need to be instituted.

I am absolutely against innovation when it takes away from competition.

Then maybe you should write the rules for next years Chili Bowl and you could mandate VW powered, 80's style chassis with WalMart bought Monroe socks and Michelin radials since you are so damned against technology. I'd bet the farm Sammy could make one of those run just as well as the cars he brings now. And you would still be on here bitchin' about him cheatin' because he won within the confines of your rules.

Keep on beatin' that Dead Horse, it's an open race with no rule book. That is how the Bondio cars get to run each year. It must not bother the other 280 racers that pull all the way to Tulsa from all over the US each January just to watch the Swindell's wax their asses as you see it.

You can't win unless you put all four wheels on the track, and that track is exactly the same for
those racers as it is for the Swindell's. So what really is eatin' your butt Rogue-9?

WOW, you would have hated racing in the old days when everyone built their own car in their garage. Every car was different and the guy who came up with the best legal design won a lot of races. For years it was who built the best car as well as who built the best motor (at home) and was the best driver that won most. When chassis and motors were bought instead of built by competitors everything changed. Soon everyone had the same thing. Thats why so many races are follow the leader. Everyone has basicly the same car & motor, so it's easier for everyone to be fast. I liked the old days better!

I would like to see Emmitt Hahn do what I have seen some other tracks do.

Offer Sammy and Kevin extra money if they give up their front row starting position,and

start on the back. And if they come up and still win it...give them X amount of money for

doing so. Get a sponser for that amount of money..

OR,, would like to see Sammy and Kevin donate all the winnings to a childrens non-profit organization,

like St Jude's or Make A Wish..

Maybe this will keep people from having such hard feelings towards them two for dominating.

I can't think of anything USAC has not screwed up. Indy 500 they screwed up royally. They use to run a stock car series ie 4 crown at Eldora. Screwed it up. No more pavement sprints. Lets see the silver crown cars. Pretty much decimated the midgets also. Lets see what is left. Oh yea the neutered sprint cars. I will say they have improved on the neutered sprints and midgets. I guess there is still hope for those. But your right. If there is a way to screw something up USAC will do it. Right now they are running on NASCARS coat tails. But I have seen a decline in that also.
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I don't have a car. I don't have that kind of money.

Chili Bowl rules. I like the fact they keep winning, just makes the others have to step it up another notch. They didnt really run away with it, I mean, Brad Sweet almost got past Sammy at the end, and two others were right there with them. The difference seemed to be that they never slipped up or anything in the race, all the others I watched either would almost spin out, hit the wall, etc.....There is nobody holding the other teams back from modifing their cars too. If you dont like it, dont go, there are PLENTY of fans that would like your seat in the stands.

Unless Sammy will do an interview and kiss everyone's ass there are alot of people that won't like him, I doubt Sammy will ever do that. Sammy is as close to a geniuses as you will get in this sport and personality is not his strong suit.

Grady

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It doesn't seem that most midget owners will re-tool for one race. I'd prefer to see something more along the lines of what the midgets (either PowerI or USAC) run the rest of the year. That said, I give the Swindell's their due. They obviously figured it out better than everyone else.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

Well said Grady.

There's more than a couple of things here a lot of folks are missing...

1. Sammy and Kevin are NOT the first team to build Chili Bowl specific midgets.

2. Very few people have the talent of the Swindells from (A) driving perspective (B) track condition forcasting (C) car set up ability (D) race strategy (E) having cars that are one-race-a-year cars (F) preparation/focus.

3. When you have a race where the cars have essentially a "no rules" approach, there is NO excuse for not being 'up to par' with the Swindells' cars. Spend the money, or go figuring that (barring any bad luck for Sammy & Kevin) 3rd is the best you can expect. Even Brad Sweet said after Saturday's feature 3rd place was in his words "best in class"...plain and simple Sammy and Kevin perform as if they're in a different class.

4. Sometimes, MORE power is too much. If you don't have the car or the driver doesn't have the skill to keep it under him, more power will make you look like you have the only midget at the race with reverse.

Technically superior cars, superior preparation, superior ability, and luck is what keeps Sammy and Kevin on the podium at Tulsa. Had Kyle (Larson) kept his cool, saved his tires and raced the track instead of Kevin, he was likely capable of outrunning Kevin and Sammy both. He had enough car.

It wasn't horsepower, nor any trick front end, that won Saturday's A main. It was a comibination of more than that. The man next to me said "Sammy's car is shit and he's just holding up the field! That's bullsh!t!" To which I said..."Watch the lap counter, and watch how much better his car gets when Kevin gets to lap traffic." WOW...what happened? Kevin began closing up on the back of the field and all of a sudden Sammy's car comes back in and he goes and runs Kevin down...STRATEGY...at that point, Sammy had controlled everybody's race and HE was the only one with OPEN track in front of him, and could actually probably watch the lappers as good OR BETTER than Kevin. The old man has talent on a multitude of levels....oh, and my buddy next to me looked at me several laps later and said "Son of a b!tch, you were right!"