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nonwing48
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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 06:01:43 PM

THIS IS MY LAST REPLY ON THIS MATTER, BECAUSE IN BOTH OF YOUR CASES 'YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' AND THATS WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE. NO I DO NOT HAVE ANY AFFILIATION WITH SPRINGFIELD RACEWAY NOR DO I CARE TO. AND AS FOR THE RAKING THE LEAVES I HAVE A YARD MAN DO IT, AND AS FOR WORKING ON RACE CARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND FOR A GENTLEMEN WHO HAS WON OVER 400 FEATURES AND 20 PLUS CHAMPIONSHIPS AND HAVE BEEN BLESSED ENOUGH TO WIN OVER 120 FEATURES MYSELF SO YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO GO THERE.IN CLOSING I HOPE BOTH OF YOU HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.



Well I'm gonna go there cause those are impressive #s. I would like to meet and talk to anyone with that kind of history if its true. I'm not calling you a liar thats just impressive you should be proud enough to post your name. Darin Robison



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Posted By: david_jones on December 01 2008 at 07:15:39 PM

Darin is a MAN. He is 40.(give or take a few years). Better leave him alone or I will have to get the steel cage out for a match.



Lmao i dont know Dave im old and broke down. If you ever actually get a steel cage out UFC is done because you could book matches everyday and thats for just one of the guys you worked for. I think we all know who he is but seriously you would get rich. Hope you and your family had a good Thanksgiving.



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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 06:01:43 PM

THIS IS MY LAST REPLY ON THIS MATTER, BECAUSE IN BOTH OF YOUR CASES 'YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' AND THATS WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE. NO I DO NOT HAVE ANY AFFILIATION WITH SPRINGFIELD RACEWAY NOR DO I CARE TO. AND AS FOR THE RAKING THE LEAVES I HAVE A YARD MAN DO IT, AND AS FOR WORKING ON RACE CARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND FOR A GENTLEMEN WHO HAS WON OVER 400 FEATURES AND 20 PLUS CHAMPIONSHIPS AND HAVE BEEN BLESSED ENOUGH TO WIN OVER 120 FEATURES MYSELF SO YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO GO THERE.IN CLOSING I HOPE BOTH OF YOU HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.



SUNSHINE, are you talking about Steve Kinser? LOL




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I live in Oklahoma and have relatives in Waverly, Ohio. This summer I went to a race at KC Raceway in Chillicothe, Ohio and it got rained out after hot laps and Jim Nier refunded my money. Anytime during the summer that I am in Waverly I will go back to KC Raceway



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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 06:01:43 PM

THIS IS MY LAST REPLY ON THIS MATTER, BECAUSE IN BOTH OF YOUR CASES 'YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' AND THATS WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE. NO I DO NOT HAVE ANY AFFILIATION WITH SPRINGFIELD RACEWAY NOR DO I CARE TO. AND AS FOR THE RAKING THE LEAVES I HAVE A YARD MAN DO IT, AND AS FOR WORKING ON RACE CARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND FOR A GENTLEMEN WHO HAS WON OVER 400 FEATURES AND 20 PLUS CHAMPIONSHIPS AND HAVE BEEN BLESSED ENOUGH TO WIN OVER 120 FEATURES MYSELF SO YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO GO THERE.IN CLOSING I HOPE BOTH OF YOU HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.



LOL!  Whenever I read a post like this,  i instantly know that the poster is a fake, a phony, a nobody, a blowhard.  To be fair,  I'm a nobody as well.  I just don't (anonymously) pretend to be something I'm not.  Q-Sara Q-Sara



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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 06:01:43 PM

THIS IS MY LAST REPLY ON THIS MATTER, BECAUSE IN BOTH OF YOUR CASES 'YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' AND THATS WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE. NO I DO NOT HAVE ANY AFFILIATION WITH SPRINGFIELD RACEWAY NOR DO I CARE TO. AND AS FOR THE RAKING THE LEAVES I HAVE A YARD MAN DO IT, AND AS FOR WORKING ON RACE CARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND FOR A GENTLEMEN WHO HAS WON OVER 400 FEATURES AND 20 PLUS CHAMPIONSHIPS AND HAVE BEEN BLESSED ENOUGH TO WIN OVER 120 FEATURES MYSELF SO YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO GO THERE.IN CLOSING I HOPE BOTH OF YOU HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.



If nobody else will, then I guess I have to play my BULLSHIT card. Sunshine, just say no to inbreeding...
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Posted By: Hawker on December 01 2008 at 10:33:46 PM
If nobody else will, then I guess I have to play my BULLSHIT card. Sunshine, just say no to inbreeding...


What is inbreeding? Is that like a bleeder valve on the right rear?


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Posted By: nonwing48 on December 01 2008 at 04:29:43 PM

Ok Sunshin44 we will make this simple on the 2nd page of this post there is a guy Bill W and trust me he knows Koxville hell I think he has even been there a time or two. Thats sarcasm Sunshine so you know about being there a time or two. Anyway you go to the 2nd page find his post and email him and he will tell you if Knoxville gives refunds on rain dates. I bet he says they have in the past im not saying they do it evereytime like a weekly show they may not but a special show i bet Knoxville has. Cause you see not giving money back in a case like this is not standard procedure by profesionally run racetracks. Hope your still having a great day. Sincerely Darin Robison



As much as I hate to get in this inane thread, Knoxville does give the fan a choice of refunds or trade-ins if the heats don't get in. The exceptions in the past have been Nationals shows where the raindate is on Sunday (the next day, not five months away as is the case here)...

I have run across two tracks in my travels over the years that didn't give a refund in a case like this, and one caved in and gave them after legal action was threatened. The other, I don't go to anymore, and as far as I know, is dead to the open wheel world...


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nonwing48
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Posted By: Bill W on December 01 2008 at 11:03:27 PM

As much as I hate to get in this inane thread, Knoxville does give the fan a choice of refunds or trade-ins if the heats don't get in. The exceptions in the past have been Nationals shows where the raindate is on Sunday (the next day, not five months away as is the case here)...

I have run across two tracks in my travels over the years that didn't give a refund in a case like this, and one caved in and gave them after legal action was threatened. The other, I don't go to anymore, and as far as I know, is dead to the open wheel world...



Thank you Mr. Bill W sorry for dragging you into this but I do appreciate your time to answer to this thread. When someone speaks of false statements about one of the greatest racetracks in the nation i take offense to that. So thank you once again for your time. I hope you and your family have a great and safe holiday. Darin Robison




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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 01:36:17 PM

ALL THE INFORMATION THAT IS BEING POSTED ABOUT THE SPRINGFIELD RACE SATURDAY IS NOT COMPLETELY TRUE. FIRST OF ALL THE FEE FOR DRIVER PIT PASS AND ENTRY FEE WAS $50.00 DOLLARS PER CAR ADDITIONAL PIT PASSES WERE $35.00 DOLLARS IF SOMEONE PAID MORE THAN THAT YOU PROBABLY WERE NOT VERY CLEAR WITH WHAT YOU NEEDED AT THE PIT GATE. ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH RACING FOR ANYTIME AT ALL KNOWS WE ALL TAKE HUGH RISKS EVERYTIME WE LEAVE THE DRIVEWAY. IF WE HAVE A FLAT WITH A BRAND NEW TIRE WE DO NOT TAKE IT BACK TO THE TIRE TRUCK AND GET OUR MONEY BACK, IF WE BLOW UP THAT $3000.00 OR $40,000.00 DOLLAR MOTOR ON THE THIRD NIGHT OF THE YEAR WE DO NOT TAKE BACK TO THE MOTOR BUILDER FOR A REFUND, IF THE IDIOT 2 LAPS DOWN THRASHES OUR BRAND NEW CAR ON THE FIRST NIGHT WE DONT GET HIM TO PAY THE BILL, AND WHEN THOSE WHO PAY THE ULTIMATE PRICE OF THEIR LIVES ONE DAY OR NIGHT WE DO NOT GET TO ASK THE GOOD LORD FOR A REFUND ON OUR LIVES. BUT WHAT HE DOES GIVE US IS FREE WILL TO MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES AND OUR OWN RISKS. SO WHEN WE ALL LOADED UP THAT MORNING WE KNEW THE RISKS WE KNEW THE FORECAST. I HAVE BEEN TO KNOXVILLE, DAYTONA, ELDORA, AND ALL SORTS OF PLACES IN BETWEEN WHEN IT RAINS WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO BE THERE ON THE DATE IT IS RESET FOR OR NOT. WE ALL HAVE THAT SAME CHOICE HERE WITH THIS RACE I UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE SOMETIME IN MARCH IF WE CHOOSE TO GO THEN IT COSTS US NOTHING OTHER THAN FUEL TO GET THERE IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO THEN WE GET NO REFUND. JUST LIKE DALE EARNHARDT KNEW THE RISK WHEN HE STRAPPED IN FOR THE DAYTONA 500 THAT FATEFULL DAY WE KNEW THE RISK WHEN WE ALL LEFT THAT MORNING THE FORECAST WAS NOT A SUPRISE SO QUIT WHINING COME BACK IN MARCH AND RACE OR HUSH!!!!!!!



thats the most ignorant post i have ever seen on here - i mean - full of so much BS that the poster actually believed.

comparing this to Dale Earnhardt dying in a Nascar race? are you a complete fuc*ing retard?

but playing in to your horrible comparison. here is an irony for you. - on the "fateful" day - i'm sure there were some who wouldnt change a thing about it they could - because Nascar exploded and many profited by that. just like it wasnt "fateful" for those piece of shit promoters that the rain came ----- they made out like bandits.

they scheduled this race in HOPES to get many out of town guys. and then use a rain check as a ploy to get them to come back in the spring - when tracks closer to those will be racing. and no - as badly as they shanked all of that - just reading the MULTIPLE eye witness accounts of the whole deal - whatever BS race they did schedule would NOT pay the same.

I would never go as far to say there is some code of ethics in promoting. but i PRAY that these guys just screwed themselved royally. and if their locals - either drivers or fans - think there is something defensible about what it being reported everywhere ----- ya;ll dont deserve a track - even the piece of shit one this sounds like.

i would be my bottom dollar. this show is DONE. them hosting and then actually GETTING a good field of sprint cars - DONE. and by all rights - as promoters - they SHOULD BE DONE. if there was any good intent involved --- there would not be so many of the same embarrasing accounts of the situation on here. they have screwed themselves. and sadly - for racers and fans up there - may have screwed that track up too.

this situation was not a huge risk BS that you're talking about. those trying to defend what happened up there are full of BS. there is no excuse for not giving the money back. certain ignorant swine can try to defend it ----- but take a look at what their "big" races draw next year ------ and tell me if I am right - or if I am wrong.

also - if they were talkin crap on ASCS officials - i doubt there would be a race taking place there next year. didnt something like that happen at Kilgore, Texas a few years back? not sure just thought i remembered hearin something like that.

and out of shameful curiousity - i wander just what remarks they made about ascs and/or their officials? thats a series that at least has some dignity and common sense - something these 2 blokes in SW Missouri appear to lack completely....


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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 04:01:21 PM

NONWING FIRST THING LEARN TO SPELL OK. NOW WITH THAT BEHIND US IF YOU WANT TO BE A JERK I WILL BE TOO.TELL ME HOW MANY RACES HAVE YOU EVER WON? I GO TO LOTS OF RACES AND I HAVE NEVER HEAR OF YOU. IF YOUR TEAM IS THAT BIG AND YOUR OWNER PAYS FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS THAN SURELY YOUR TEAM CAN AFFORD TO COME BACK AND GET THE MONEY



there are many things that could prevent people from returning on a certain date. a whole slew of em. and it aint right for the dirty bastards at that track to be so naive as to think everyone - driver, pit crew, whoever - - - can just come back. and your last statement kind of implies that if a team is big enough they should be able to make it back - so what? just take a shit on those that cant?

thats pretty much what Springfield Raceway did....

geez.......ya know. maybe all this would not have been so bad. just why in the hell did they not give back the money? i imagine they - as you are eluding to here and there - stated that in the end they will be giving it back - next spring........but thats still BS. as badly as it appears they mangled the set up of this show ----- who would look forward to coming back to it? what the hell is the problem with just giving it back same day ----- not waiting till spring next year?

ah I get it. because most of em wouldnt come back.....all those that got screwed should go back up there. race - get your reduced purse money - and then just to show how much you appreciate their efforts - go out on their race track and take a big giant crap! drop a duece to em - tell em exactly what you think of their racetrack. they've earned it. hell - find their mangy lil office space - and take a giant crap in there! and if they got something to say - just tell em "hey you shit on me - no I shit on you." hell just on principal alone - if I'm ever in the immediate vicinity - I'll make sure to eat some real spicy mexican food - and then go drop my little brown buddy off at Springfield Raceway. just on principal alone - ya'll took a giant crap on people that didnt deserve it. no matter your peawit excuses - - - ya'll should get the same treatment right back at ya!

LMAO. i think i spelled all of this right sunshine. so just focus on how much vulgar crap i am literally talking about your racetrack....


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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 06:01:43 PM

THIS IS MY LAST REPLY ON THIS MATTER, BECAUSE IN BOTH OF YOUR CASES 'YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' AND THATS WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE. NO I DO NOT HAVE ANY AFFILIATION WITH SPRINGFIELD RACEWAY NOR DO I CARE TO. AND AS FOR THE RAKING THE LEAVES I HAVE A YARD MAN DO IT, AND AS FOR WORKING ON RACE CARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND FOR A GENTLEMEN WHO HAS WON OVER 400 FEATURES AND 20 PLUS CHAMPIONSHIPS AND HAVE BEEN BLESSED ENOUGH TO WIN OVER 120 FEATURES MYSELF SO YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO GO THERE.IN CLOSING I HOPE BOTH OF YOU HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.



this is your last reply because you cant defend the situation....

and if your accomplishments are such - you should have given your name - even though that is a question i never think should even be asked. but nonetheless - you should give your name. because with bloated stats like that you should be in some sort of Hall of Fame somewhere. as it is - you're just on the very long and esteemed list of "anonymous".....

lmao - thats quality...


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Posted By: SUNSHINE44 on December 01 2008 at 03:52:31 PM

JENLAMB 35 IF YOU WISH TO START BEING UGLY ON HERE I CAN I HAVE NOT REFERRED TO YOU DISRESPECTFULLY AT ANY TIME BUT I CAN START. MAYBE THATS WHY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONSTANT BATTERY AND COMPLAINING GOT ONE FORUM CLOSED DOWN. AND IF THERE POLICY IS SO BAD WHY DID I NOT HERE CRAWLEY, LASOSKI, AND GUYS WHO WOULD KNOW AND BE UPSET NOT RAISING ***ELL. AND BY THE WAY I WAS LOOKING AT SPRINGFIELD RACEWAY SIGHT A FEW MINUTES AGO RACE IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 14TH.



Sunshine, is your last name Cook?



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Posted By: JenLamb35 on November 30 2008 at 10:07:55 AM

I called Jerry Hoffman (the other "spineless" partner) to explain our situation that we could not make it down there again and he was rude and said no way were there going to be any refunds. They are worthless.

From what I can see, they had EIGHT of the 26 midgets go out for 3/4 of a lap under a green for hot laps which was at 1/4 throttle because the track was so awful and they were sliding everywhere. They brought out the mods for a 20 second green lap (on an 11 second track) and called it good. That way they could justify keeping our money because hey - "we got some racing in and we have to pay expenses" I call bullshit.

If they wanted to be decent about it - they should at least pay the teams back 1/2 of the $85 they porked them for. Not to mention some had to rent transponders they never even got on the track with and didn't get their money back.

They raked in at least $35,000 last night - are you telling me that it cost that much? They didn't even have to run lights for their "hot laps"! It didn't even cost them 1/4 of that - so man up Springfield - give back some of the money.

Springfield news station is planning to do a story on this heist. That will be interesting. :o)



We came to Springfield Raceway to support Ozark Mountain Midget series in their second Turkey night race. This was our second trip to Springfield. We came about six hundred miles for this race and we were not told of a fifty dollar car cost. We were amazed the track promoters didn't refund the cost of entering this race since we did not get a chance to put our car on the track. We waited patiently like all the other race teams for the weather to change, but it was evident this just was not going to happen. We thought it was a folley when the track promoters were trying to start the heat races to get the track from becoming worst in condition. This was very unsafe and was a protential for damage to the race cars. Hopefully the promoters will realize their error and contact all the teams for a refund.



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this is excellent entertainment - starts off with two jokers screwing the racers and ends with "HOW MANY WINS DO YOU HAVE?"!

call the State AG and let reality take its course...maybe the AG will enjoy the tapdance too.

 


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the only thing missing from this thread is Mark Kinser and a trailer park reference!

 


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Posted By: Faster Pussycat on December 02 2008 at 09:00:23 AM

the only thing missing from this thread is Mark Kinser and a trailer park reference!

 



Trailer park? Now I am confused, I thought Mark Kinser drove school buses?

Where has Mark been lately? Could he be the one with over 400 wins as posted on one of the fifteen threads above?


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Im asking this as a legitimate question has anyone ever noticed if THE FABULOUS SUNSHINE44 has ever posted on here before. I get on here alot and have never noticed his or her whichever it is posts on here. Would really like some input on this as i have an idea who THE FABULOUS SUNSHIE44 might be. P.S. still Darin Robison dont want the great Jerry Hoffman to think Im hiding behind my screen name.




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Posted By: PowerSlave on December 01 2008 at 07:17:01 PM

Maybe the yardman can teach her about the proper use of the capslock key.

Just sayin..................

Back to your regularly scheduled argument.



This stuff is just too damn funny....................



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Posted By: pracing54 on December 02 2008 at 08:00:40 AM

We came to Springfield Raceway to support Ozark Mountain Midget series in their second Turkey night race. This was our second trip to Springfield. We came about six hundred miles for this race and we were not told of a fifty dollar car cost. We were amazed the track promoters didn't refund the cost of entering this race since we did not get a chance to put our car on the track. We waited patiently like all the other race teams for the weather to change, but it was evident this just was not going to happen. We thought it was a folley when the track promoters were trying to start the heat races to get the track from becoming worst in condition. This was very unsafe and was a protential for damage to the race cars. Hopefully the promoters will realize their error and contact all the teams for a refund.



Mr Pardo.....I was pitted right next to you in the 44.  And before anyone freaks out......I AM NOT affiliated with Sunshine44.  We didn't pay $50 for the car entry.  We paid $15.  $35 pitpass + $15 car = $50.  We also got our complete refund for the race receiver. 





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