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Unless there is some hidden magic on that car why cant others do the same ?

Bigrob, they do have a 4 car draw and the 5-8 draw and 9-12 draw. Larson could have just as easily drew the 1 or 2.

Sprints rule

Doesn't look like anything particulary out of the ordinary. I was expecting an Independent front suspension or something off the wall. There maybe some details I can't see in the pics.

I am pretty sure sammy and kevin will hold there own anywhere, rules or no rules. I also am pretty sure sammy won the most woo races, as well as the most fast times in woo. That was with rules and he was the oldest driver out there. Dont bash them enjoy them its just hard work and dedication.

He went from 8th to 1st at the halfway point on Saturday then spun because his brakes failed.

Bring back Santa Fe, and LaSalle .

It's funny when Don Moore made comments about how Tonys car was illegal for the rumble according to the rules and it was. Now Tony says it about Swindells cars. Karmas a bitch aint it Tony. The only differece is the Swindel cars were legal. Now if Tony would use his own words he had to say to Don. If you would put as much effort in your own cars Tony and quit crying about the Swindel cars maybe you could win another Chili Bowl. That is just paraphrasing what Tony said to Don.

The front downtubes actually angle inward, making the nose narrow. Most midget chassis don't do that. That definitely affects how the front end works.

I wasn't talking about the suspension.

Sammy will, but not Kevin.

Mechanical gremlins caught up with Smoke at Fort Wayne in December. He was running well, but a blown motor and loss of brakes on night 2 took him out. It is suprising that the Swindell's have not had any mechanical trouble the past 5 years..unreal for anyone.

Not here to argue, but just wanted to point out that the fast qualifyer at Fort Wayne was Derek Bischak in a Spike/Gaerte Ford on night one. Joe Liguori/Lebanon, IN Joseph Liguori/C&R Racing – Liguori Racing/POS-Jacobs/Volkswagen was 2nd fast, David Gough/Machesney Park, IL David Gough/Manic Racing – DSR Mechanical – Janssen Machine – Midwest Supplies/Thompson/Autocraft was third, and Tony Stewart 4th fast.

On night two it was Fedorcak 1st and Stewart 2nd in Munchkin's.

Friday results-

http://www.midgetmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23883

Saturday results

http://www.midgetmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23889

Okay, here are two shots of Tony Stewart's Midget this year. The downtubes taper in just like the Swindell's down tubes do.

Come to think of it, the front axle and suspenssion appears to be almost exactly the same as well.

So what is your next conspriracy theory Rogue-9? Other than you hate the Swindell's and the cars they bring that is.

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And he is not running the car anywhere else so get over yourself and dont go or watch the race next year, get over it

Every body else has the same option of building a car with a special front end just for the chili bowl but apparently aren't concerned enough about it to build one to compete, that is their choice. get over it

Does Kyle Larsen have of those special front end for his car? He seemed more than capable of winning before he spun out. again get over it.

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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Stealth's wide body midget chassis angle in at the front as do Edmunds chassis.I think that Sammy's car is a wide body chassis.

I hate races that take the driver out of the car, not just the swindells. Like I said, eventually one team will figure it out, but then they will become the dominant car. Anyone who thinks Larson's car was as good is kidding themselves. The reason he spun in the first place was he had to overdrive the car just to keep up. And Yeley said in an interview that Kevin appeared to be playing with him in the RoC. I doubt Kevin was even pushing it that hard when Larson was racing him. Kevin was cruising and then got up on the wheel when Larson slid him and then drove it right back by. Then Kyle had to drive it in too deep to try to get back by and lost it.

Sammy had no brakes in the RoC, only reason JJ got by.

I don't have a problem with the cars. It is only cheating if you get caught, and if there are no rules, it is hard to get caught.

Do I think that Kevin and Sammy are benefiting from a superior technical advantage? Yes. Sammy only drives a midget once a year, but he does have years of experience. The last several years Kevin has had a very nomadic schedule. I don't think that he has a full time ride in any national series for the last two years, rather picking and choosing his rides. It appears that he is trying to create a NASCAR career.

It is hard for me to believe that Sammy and Kevin can win the biggest midget race five years in a row of the year over guys/teams that race midgets full time without some form of technical advantage. They do not have the midget experience that other people at the Chilli bowl. If the Kuntz team, or the Wilke team, or the Clauson team won five in a row, I would say it makes sense. For the Swindell team to do it, does not make sense unless they have some technical advantage.

PS I still hate Sammy.