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FYI The 43 is a Dwane Wolf(Welder) resto of one of the earliest, if not the first Pius Slenske/Parker Oil cars from Wichita. Just like in the day, it still runs a full house Merc flathead.

Cool!

A few more cars from KAR, would love to see these down here at OkC,

Olds powered Don Sprier coupe!

This car is out of Dodge City, looks very much like a Parson springer

These next 2 cars are actually twins, built by Walt McWhorter and Wylan Cantrell

Check out the rare 6 window slot magnesium wheels! Yes I posted this car earlier, but still a great shot.----By the way, are those main rails smaller than 2"? Since both cars are time tested it's curious just how small the rails did get before the space frames took over.

The owner of this car indicated interest early on,

NSRA SW NATS-2009-

April 3-5

Just looked it up.

Still needing pictures of cars with interest to make a case. Any stage of completion.

e-mail is [email protected]

mail is

Brian Satterwhite

po box 391

Springer,Ok. 73458

Also, anyone you do know that has a car of these eras that could be interested, let me know and I'll call to see.

the score

19 solid interest cars---------Some owners are scored with 2 cars, anything over 2 is a possibility.

38 possibles----------------- I know these cars exist, I have visited with most in the last 18 months.

These only represent cars that are in running, roller, or close to roller form at this time. Includes those posted here, and those inquired by phone, e-mail. Those also I know who would have to be six feet underground before they'd miss something like this.

close to roller form- basket case with enough parts in inventory to build in a week reasonably.

You do have to tell me if you want your car posted, I wish not to offend.

One more thing,

Need to look at ways to defer the costs involved for those traveling 75-100 miles or more. Have a few ideas(they are cheap like talk). Need yours.

I would love to come to your meet depending on the date

LETS RACE BOYS

We haven't heard a big block sprinter in 25+ years!

I'm wanting something substantial on the first weekend of April at OkC. I think it could ignite the whole thing a little more down here. It could add fuel to others promoting more shows in the future.

Talked to a member of the Latimore Valley shows in PA today. They are doing very much like what I'm looking at here. They had 50+ cars this year, Williams Grove Old Timers at WG had 80+ with 50+ running. Oh yes, a lot of cars change hands there too. He made a few points to note-

Safety- Suit up as if you're stepping into a 410 sprinter for the money. Safety gear is a must.

Hubs, spindles, radius rods and the like. Know them as well as the back of your hand especially if you have a cageless car. ACOT in PA requires safety wire on those fasteners, and a small ski on the front in case of a hub/spindle failure. They might look funky, but it's a quiet way to save you and your car...........and maybe someone else.

Insurance- Like the members of KAR have told me, insurance is a priority. For now expect to pay at the gate per car to cover that. I would like to see at least that expense covered up front somehow.

Atmosphere- For now they have one of their shows right alongside a Steam Engine(?) show. The crowds don't mix well except for a little, but the whole feel is definitely a fun one.-----

------------These are "exhibitions". Sure, there may be a little racing now and then but still it is about the people and the cars without the 'drama' few will remember years from now. Mainly targeted to an older race fan crowd where fast times, the most horses,latest trick parts etc are not as important. Those at the NSRA are also 'exhibitionists' too with a common thread in that there is a lot of back and forth transfer in technology new and old, as well as the 'art of motion' with nostalgic spirited cars and memorabilia.

Also talked with a friend on the west coast about the Ascot Legends show. A few cars do run, but many I took it were for display only. Since Ascot is no longer, there are several that have not restored their cars since the last night the track ran. In a few cases, some have not even washed off the Ascot clay since that last night in I think '90(?). Interestingly, I was told the famed Ascot clay was actually leftover from graves dug and filled at a cemetary across the street. So, anytime someone was laid to rest in that Gardena cemetary, Ascot was due a little topsoil!

This event is at Parris Island Speedway and with the way things seem to be, will remain a small numbers show although notable.

Knoxville sounded a little tight with their time. This from a KAR member

Colorada sounds short on vintage race cars to really get a show going there, although there are many hidden in amongst those big hills.

Jungle Park up north seems more like a reunion/car show without much track time(is there a track there?). Still a good car count.

Winchester is doing great with car numbers growing steady per year. 1/2 mile paved and banked

New Hampshire is doing well I guess, but that 1 mile track is paved and rather large for 1/2 mile and under cars like ours.

Not sure anyone has quite pitched for a date and crowd like I have here. If all these are wortha shot, ours deserves one too. Where there are fans and cars like these, Legends tend to show up. Kids tend to form a little respect too, just like the rest of us did long ago.

Projected attendance for the street rod show is very promising from what I've found on a reputable Oklahoma site for the NSRA Street Rod SW Nats.

Number of cars projected to be there is also good. I've attended many (read that ,many) types of either show that relate to what I'm pitching here, and the number of attendees as well as the number of cars seems proportionate. You could even cut those numbers by 25% and they are still good. Not totally out of this world, but solid.

Both groups, ours and theirs have a lot of similar likes and dislikes. Yet both groups bring a product to the table the other group doesn't see often due to their own commitments. I know 1+1 equals 2. The pursuitable number here is the power of 3.

The few of us who have gotten to pull these cars around in the past several years have found that people love these 'things', even if most do not know what they are. If a Pinto bodied mini-stock deserves a stage, so too do the types of cars we admire on this site.

By the way, I have found that many of those who could be interested in participating, do not even have the internet or don't bother looking if they do. If you like this idea, get the word out. Word of mouth is the better known valuable advertising tool there is.

Update,

Kansas interest is growing. That is good because we all know they have active, legitimate race cars.

Haven't heard anything from the Dallas area....yet. There are a lot of neat exposed tire race cars in those Lone Star suburbs.

500TT mentioned the possibility of an Offy midget entering the ranks. Made me think of the Offies they had at Wichita Falls in 2006 for Lloyd Ruby day. Those 4 cylinders hade a deep tone growl to them that caught your attention. They weren't rice-burners, they took methanol straight from the barrel without a twist of lime! Meant business. Someday I've got to tell the story about what I saw there, it was overwhelming for me to say the least. The #4 Kurtis purred like a song, as well as the white/red #5 behind it. The three red cars represented some very interesting histories. From front to back, the makes are Kurtis, Lesovsky,Watson, Elders. The Elders car is also on the bottom picture, it didn't run, only displayed. There was a time when these would have made some great supermodifieds! Still could I guess, but they are pricey. IF they were for sale, these cars would bring a healthy 6-figure amount. Funny thing is, my period incorrect super was right outside and I felt like a king. I met people I had heard of or watched race years ago. It is the people that make it all worthwhile, but the cars we love sure do make a great conversation starter. No race track this day, but we did get to make a round through downtown.

This was the day I realized my super got more attention than my '71 Blazer that was lost out there in the custom car show. Of course , these roadsters got the most attention, but it was a blast to be a small part of it.

Okay, here you go

NSAR show

1,600 -2,000 cars bring in

20,000 people over 3 days-most on Saturday-bringing in

100 vendors of parts,clothing , art etc

live music, kids games, activities for the Ladies (not sure if you have to be a member)

Still a high turnover in the parking lot, I know i see it every year.

Bring in a crowd from our side(small, but solid), ---theres more , but that's for later.

I do not like to embellish because it could bite me later. The truth is better.

Brian, Believe this car to be the orginial or copy of Larry Prathers #97 that Harkness drove, Nance built the orginial version which was black & silver also believe there was a metallic brown version of this car also.

I believe Rick Salem from Obelin, KS (URSS) told me this was his old car #22 before they bought the Jelly car. He bought it from Jim Toombs out of Wichita. I think Jim ran it as a modified.

I have a photo of it on this page and another one later on. http://www.racingfromthepast.com/kansassuperslap5index17.html

http://www.racingfromthepast.com/kansassuperslap24index159.html

Warren Vincent
Cans 4 Kansas Heroes