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dirtraceorbust
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December 21, 2017 at 08:58:56 AM
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If ifs and buts were candy and nutz what a merry Christmas we'd all have.


  

dirtraceorbust
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My uncle just mentioned to me that as far as he knew Schatz never raced a go cart or a mini sprint or micro sprint or midget whatever the long list of "beginning-type" cars there are, but just jumped into a sprint car at age 15 and that was it, not even a fendered-type dirt car. That's like your 15 year old neighbor decides he's going to buy a sprint car and start racing Saturday night.


  

blazer00
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on December 21 2017 at 09:21:16 AM

My uncle just mentioned to me that as far as he knew Schatz never raced a go cart or a mini sprint or micro sprint or midget whatever the long list of "beginning-type" cars there are, but just jumped into a sprint car at age 15 and that was it, not even a fendered-type dirt car. That's like your 15 year old neighbor decides he's going to buy a sprint car and start racing Saturday night.



Actually Schatz started racing go karts at age 11. He went to 358 sprinters at age 15. He went to 410's at age 18. 



hardon
December 21, 2017 at 09:18:33 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 21 2017 at 12:18:09 PM

Actually Schatz started racing go karts at age 11. He went to 358 sprinters at age 15. He went to 410's at age 18. 



I watched him race his first 3 races at Husets.  There was no such thing as 358 sprint cars in this area.  And I'm certain he was in a 410.  The rumor back then was his dad would fly him to and from the races from Minot so he wouldn't miss any school.  By the way his first 3 races resulted in 3 destroyed race cars.



blazer00
December 22, 2017 at 12:02:11 AM
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Posted By: hardon on December 21 2017 at 09:18:33 PM

I watched him race his first 3 races at Husets.  There was no such thing as 358 sprint cars in this area.  And I'm certain he was in a 410.  The rumor back then was his dad would fly him to and from the races from Minot so he wouldn't miss any school.  By the way his first 3 races resulted in 3 destroyed race cars.



I wasn't aware of 358's in that area either. Wikipedia stated the 358's at Red River Valley Speedway at age 15 as his first venture in sprint cars. I wonder if 360's were the actual class? Then according to Wikipedia stated 410's at age 18. Maybe someone closer to Donny can clarify whether or not he actually started in 410 sprints right out of karts or not. I posted only because I was aware from a competitor of Donny's back in the karting days that he started in karts. And.....always had the very best of equipment even back then.



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December 22, 2017 at 12:54:24 AM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 22 2017 at 12:02:11 AM

I wasn't aware of 358's in that area either. Wikipedia stated the 358's at Red River Valley Speedway at age 15 as his first venture in sprint cars. I wonder if 360's were the actual class? Then according to Wikipedia stated 410's at age 18. Maybe someone closer to Donny can clarify whether or not he actually started in 410 sprints right out of karts or not. I posted only because I was aware from a competitor of Donny's back in the karting days that he started in karts. And.....always had the very best of equipment even back then.



Check out the "Open Red" podcast that Kyle just did on the World of Outlaws website.

It was quite enlightening. He says there is no doubt there will be a day he will be on the road with the WoO. Could be 10 yrs from now although that wasn't his original plan... He also said for the longest time ( until Owen came along) that Donny wouldn't even give him the time of day!  And I could have misunderstood as I was trying to listen at work so don't I'm sure I'll be reprimanded. But it's a good listen!



motorhead748
December 22, 2017 at 09:53:33 AM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 22 2017 at 12:02:11 AM

I wasn't aware of 358's in that area either. Wikipedia stated the 358's at Red River Valley Speedway at age 15 as his first venture in sprint cars. I wonder if 360's were the actual class? Then according to Wikipedia stated 410's at age 18. Maybe someone closer to Donny can clarify whether or not he actually started in 410 sprints right out of karts or not. I posted only because I was aware from a competitor of Donny's back in the karting days that he started in karts. And.....always had the very best of equipment even back then.



I'm not sure of the era in question but not that long ago sprint cars were not watered down into different categories based on engine size. At any race you may have seen cars with engine sizes ranging from 300 to 500 cubic inch.... and bigger was not necessarily better. 

I would guess that Donny started out in the best equipment but it could have very well been 358/360 cubic inch up against bigger motors 



dirtraceorbust
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No such thing as a 358 sprint car in the Dakota's, ever.  And the go cart Schatz raced was the old type go cart you could make in your garage or on the farm, not the stream lined super low go carts found today that can go 100 mph and cost upwards of $25,000.  More like the go carts you can race at many summer entertainment facilities for $5 or $10 for 5 to 10 laps. 

PS   "Donny wouldn't give him the time of day"  . Yeah, sure.  Maybe when Kyle Larsen was 10 years old and just another kid walking around some track and Donny busy on the car.  Why would Schatz have a clue as to who he was at that time.    I'd say another statement thrown in by a Larsen groupie to bash Schtaz and get another ugly rumor started. It's the primary reason Schatz fans stay away from Hoseheads.  They ain't wanted so why go there.  Hosehead's loss and they know it or they have their head up their butt not wanting to think about it.   What the hell, do some of these guys sit in the bathroom looking at pictures of Kyle Larsen while enjoying themselves?   In one year's time, say 2017, there will be hundreds of positive posts about Kinser or Larsen or Swindell and maybe 4 or 5 positive ones about Schatz (not counting the derogatory ones). And Kinser is not even racing.  And how many times did Swindell race with the WoO in 2017?  Single digits for sure but yet that's all we see is Kinser, Swindell and Larsen posts..  Look at the Schatz's record of accomplishments each year and think about how rediculous that is. 


  

blazer00
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Posted By: motorhead748 on December 22 2017 at 09:53:33 AM

I'm not sure of the era in question but not that long ago sprint cars were not watered down into different categories based on engine size. At any race you may have seen cars with engine sizes ranging from 300 to 500 cubic inch.... and bigger was not necessarily better. 

I would guess that Donny started out in the best equipment but it could have very well been 358/360 cubic inch up against bigger motors 



360's have been around for over 30 years. The 28th Annual Knoxville 360 Nationals will be this next August.



blazer00
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on December 23 2017 at 11:48:29 PM

No such thing as a 358 sprint car in the Dakota's, ever.  And the go cart Schatz raced was the old type go cart you could make in your garage or on the farm, not the stream lined super low go carts found today that can go 100 mph and cost upwards of $25,000.  More like the go carts you can race at many summer entertainment facilities for $5 or $10 for 5 to 10 laps. 

PS   "Donny wouldn't give him the time of day"  . Yeah, sure.  Maybe when Kyle Larsen was 10 years old and just another kid walking around some track and Donny busy on the car.  Why would Schatz have a clue as to who he was at that time.    I'd say another statement thrown in by a Larsen groupie to bash Schtaz and get another ugly rumor started. It's the primary reason Schatz fans stay away from Hoseheads.  They ain't wanted so why go there.  Hosehead's loss and they know it or they have their head up their butt not wanting to think about it.   What the hell, do some of these guys sit in the bathroom looking at pictures of Kyle Larsen while enjoying themselves?   In one year's time, say 2017, there will be hundreds of positive posts about Kinser or Larsen or Swindell and maybe 4 or 5 positive ones about Schatz (not counting the derogatory ones). And Kinser is not even racing.  And how many times did Swindell race with the WoO in 2017?  Single digits for sure but yet that's all we see is Kinser, Swindell and Larsen posts..  Look at the Schatz's record of accomplishments each year and think about how rediculous that is. 



Today's racing kart can top 160 mph.........karts were doing 100 mph 25years ago. And Donny wasn't running anything similar to a "rental" kart. Go karts made a big change back in the 70's when they began to mount the engines offset, and  the first racing bodies came along in the 80's according to a couple friends of mine that were street racing them back then.



revjimk
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 24 2017 at 04:17:11 AM

Today's racing kart can top 160 mph.........karts were doing 100 mph 25years ago. And Donny wasn't running anything similar to a "rental" kart. Go karts made a big change back in the 70's when they began to mount the engines offset, and  the first racing bodies came along in the 80's according to a couple friends of mine that were street racing them back then.



160??? Really?? thats crazy.....



motorhead748
December 24, 2017 at 07:27:47 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 24 2017 at 04:09:28 AM

360's have been around for over 30 years. The 28th Annual Knoxville 360 Nationals will be this next August.



You missed my point... I'm saying it was common for all engine sizes to race against each other 



blazer00
December 25, 2017 at 10:47:23 AM
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Posted By: motorhead748 on December 24 2017 at 07:27:47 PM

You missed my point... I'm saying it was common for all engine sizes to race against each other 



Sorry.....got cha now.



blazer00
December 25, 2017 at 10:48:45 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 24 2017 at 07:07:43 PM

160??? Really?? thats crazy.....



Yeh really......and you're right......that's crazy!





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