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larry, you know I like me some Northpole Nightmare.  I mentioned him and Carson so I agree with you.   

This post brings up an interesting talking point that I have been thinking about for some time and that is the number of former World of Outlaws drivers racing locally.  It seems that the WoO has been goiing through a NASCAR type youth movement.  I don't think the veterans have for gotten how to get it done but says as much about losing their rides with big budget teams.  They fall back to running locally and have a tough choice between lesser rises or not racing.  They take a low budget deal and don't run up front and get a bad rap that snowballs into a downward spiral.  Thoughts?

Without a doubt the goofiest nickname in dirt track racing!!!

I'm usually a pretty rational person when it comes to these threads as you can guess by my post count. I'm not saying that you're all wrong, but let's think logically. There are only a handful of drivers that tour the country without club affiliation. By the way, I'm from Posseland so don't think we're all the same over here. Danny Dietrich doesn't race well outside of Central PA. Bill Balog doesn't do well outside of IRA and select TT events. All other drivers that have been mentioned are just hometown love affairs. We all love our hometown guys whether they do well home or away, but chances are that we're left disappointed afterwards. 

Brian Brown, Kerry Madsen, Ian Madsen, Tim Kaeding, Christopher Bell, Rico Abreu, Kyle Larson

Those would be my picks based on the races they choose, their performance at the end of the day, and their geographical selections.

This is probably the most spot on post I've ever read on here.    I'm from Pennsylvania and love our local dirt track racing too, but our guys suck outside of PA.      I take notice to a lot of racing from all over the country as much as I can.    Besides Larson, Rico and Christopher Bell obviously, the top non-Outlaw driver this year has to be Kerry Madsen.   Two up and comers I've really been paying attention too are Carson Macedo.....and the other is Spencer Bayston who I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet on here.   

I'd have to throw Dylan Westbrooks name into the mix at this point. He's 18 years old. He was a 360 rookie last year coming from micro sprints. He didn't win his 1st feature until last July. Since last July 1st he's won over 20 360 races in the Northeast in basically ever sanctioning body (SOS, ESS, Patriot Series, Ohsweken Fri Night Sanctioning) at several different tracks. Last night was his forst ever night in a 410 and he cane from 17th to 5th in the WoO A Main at Ohsweken on an ultra slick track. He passed Pittman Stewart and Sweet like they were standing still. He's definitely by far the best natural talent that I've ever seen in this area.

I'd have to throw Dylan Westbrooks name into the mix at this point. He's 18 years old. He was a 360 rookie last year coming from micro sprints. He didn't win his 1st feature until last July. Since last July 1st he's won over 20 360 races in the Northeast in basically ever sanctioning body (SOS, ESS, Patriot Series, Ohsweken Fri Night Sanctioning) at several different tracks. Last night was his forst ever night in a 410 and he cane from 17th to 5th in the WoO A Main at Ohsweken on an ultra slick track. He passed Pittman Stewart and Sweet like they were standing still. He's definitely by far the best natural talent that I've ever seen in this area.

I mean, last night was really impressive, but let's keep some perspective here.

Fair piint. Certainly not THE best non outlaw driver right now but I would still put him on the list. Gio Scelzi has been mentioned several times here and he has what, 2 or 3 wins? 

Fair piint. Certainly not THE best non outlaw driver right now but I would still put him on the list. Gio Scelzi has been mentioned several times here and he has what, 2 or 3 wins? 

I don't think Gio should be mentioned yet either - he's got a lot to prove. But yes, three 410 wins and a 360 win in a tougher region than the Northeast, plus being finishing in top five or just outside in damn near every race he's ran this year is more impressive than what Westbrook's done.

Also, I hate to knock him for it, but Oshweken can't be the best gauge of competitiveness. It carries a similar feel to William's Grove in that it's very unique compared to what the Outlaws usually see, thus giving advantage to local guys with a lot more laps on it. 

What's unique about Oshweken's layout? Other than the ice rink surface, the configuration looked similar to many other tracks across the US!

Sorry, wasn't clear and guess I can see where you'd think I was inferring layout by comparing to Grove - I was talking the surface. It has to be one of, if not the slickest tracks the WoO run all year. 

I don't think Gio should be mentioned yet either - he's got a lot to prove. But yes, three 410 wins and a 360 win in a tougher region than the Northeast, plus being finishing in top five or just outside in damn near every race he's ran this year is more impressive than what Westbrook's done.

Also, I hate to knock him for it, but Oshweken can't be the best gauge of competitiveness. It carries a similar feel to William's Grove in that it's very unique compared to what the Outlaws usually see, thus giving advantage to local guys with a lot more laps on it.