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dsc1600
July 19, 2017 at 02:23:53 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on July 19 2017 at 05:49:54 AM

You're right.....luck had nothing to do with it. Three years in a row, Brown ran second to Schatz at the Nationals. Two of those years, Brown really had the opportunity to win, but a mistake really hurt his chances.

In 2012 It was obvious that Brown had what it took to get by Donny. Brian was definately stalking at the end.  On the white flag lap, however, Brian missed the cushion on the white flag lap, gathered it in and made his move coming out of four, but came up half a car length short and Donny wins at the line. 

In 2013 Brown lead pretty much the entire race, while Schatz steadily made his way to the front. I forget where he started. With about 10 to go, Schatz passed Brown and drove away for the win.

In 2014, Brown really had his best opportunity. Schatz led pretty much the entire race, while Brown moved up to get in to second to place. The last half Brown steadily stalked Donny....with Donny getting away, and then Brown reeling him back in. towards the latter stages, Brown was not only there, but right on Donny. Both were running seperate grooves, Donny low, Brian high, and it was obvious that Brown was the quicker of the two. The second Brown made his move I thought to myself "DAMN YOU PASSED HIM TOO EARLY"...(I have often wondered if Brian had thought that back in 2012 he waited too long?) it was lap 43.....Brown went around Donny coming out of two and led down the backstretch. Brown showed Schatz the faster line! Donny even said so in his interview. Anyway, Schatz immediately changed his line and on lap 45, Brown changed his line to "block" Donny, and Donny went around Brown and went on to win. Brown really made two critical errors that race. He passed Donny too early, then changed his own line thinking Donny was still running low. 

That's how I remember those races. But....we know how memories can be....Smile 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



I think that's pretty much spot on. 

2012, Schatz uncharacteristically wore his tires out. Brown was faster, but came up a bit short. 

2013, Schatz came from 21st, historic run, but benefitted from the race being 50 laps. 

2014, if I remember correctly, Brown didn't protect the bottom in 3 and 4 once he passed him in 1 and 2 and Schatz came right back. 

One of the things that makes Schatz great, is that when he's passed, he gathers it back up immediately and goes back for the kill. Many drivers get too flustered and lose too much time gathering themselves back up. 



Saldana fan
July 19, 2017 at 03:07:05 PM
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80+cars now on the list



Stroker_Race
July 19, 2017 at 03:23:07 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 19 2017 at 02:23:53 PM

I think that's pretty much spot on. 

2012, Schatz uncharacteristically wore his tires out. Brown was faster, but came up a bit short. 

2013, Schatz came from 21st, historic run, but benefitted from the race being 50 laps. 

2014, if I remember correctly, Brown didn't protect the bottom in 3 and 4 once he passed him in 1 and 2 and Schatz came right back. 

One of the things that makes Schatz great, is that when he's passed, he gathers it back up immediately and goes back for the kill. Many drivers get too flustered and lose too much time gathering themselves back up. 



I am just curious.  How do you know he wore his tires out in 2012?




dsc1600
July 19, 2017 at 03:29:40 PM
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Posted By: Stroker_Race on July 19 2017 at 03:23:07 PM

I am just curious.  How do you know he wore his tires out in 2012?



If I recall, I think he said it in victory lane.



dsc1600
July 19, 2017 at 03:32:00 PM
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Asked if the sixth time felt as good as the first time, Schatz exhaustingly replied, “I think it was the hardest one to win.” Pausing for a moment, the six time Nationals Champion continued, “Man I burned the tires off of it. I just couldn’t get myself feeling very good and I knew someone would be coming those last few laps. It was everything I could do to keep it going forward. Last night was a lot of fun, tonight was a lot harder but it feels great.” 



GTigers55
July 19, 2017 at 04:17:48 PM
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Posted By: ogob on July 19 2017 at 01:24:52 PM

Entry list know up to 81.  Who is the 51 that Saldana is driving for?



Pure speculation but maybe the 51 James McFadden drove for Willie Kahne and crew during the Cali WoO swing.




chathamracefan1
July 21, 2017 at 12:36:14 PM
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Who all do we think is missing from the entered list so far?

Sheldon Haudenschild

Jac Haudenschild??

Brad Loyet  - does he usually run the Nationals

Sammy Swindell

Jason Sides

David Gravel

Brent Marks

Dominic Scelzi ??

Christopher Bell ??

Trey Starks - I know he had an ASCoC win earlier this year.

Tony Stewart??

Any other west coast guys coming? (Bud Kaeding, etc)

 



Sprinteratheart
July 21, 2017 at 04:33:32 PM
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Hollywood Herrara



TWSprunk
July 25, 2017 at 10:38:36 PM
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92 as of today...




revjimk
July 26, 2017 at 01:50:58 AM
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Posted By: TWSprunk on July 25 2017 at 10:38:36 PM

92 as of today...



Where's Alum427 when ya need him???? wink



revjimk
July 26, 2017 at 01:58:38 AM
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Posted By: Paintboss on July 18 2017 at 06:07:32 PM


Probably more like a $100,000 after you add up the Qualification night & Friday purse



True dat.... another good point



revjimk
July 26, 2017 at 02:03:33 AM
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Posted By: chathamracefan1 on July 21 2017 at 12:36:14 PM

Who all do we think is missing from the entered list so far?

Sheldon Haudenschild

Jac Haudenschild??

Brad Loyet  - does he usually run the Nationals

Sammy Swindell

Jason Sides

David Gravel

Brent Marks

Dominic Scelzi ??

Christopher Bell ??

Trey Starks - I know he had an ASCoC win earlier this year.

Tony Stewart??

Any other west coast guys coming? (Bud Kaeding, etc)

 



I just checked Sammy's schedule... he has both 360 & 410 Nats on the list

Also found out he's in 3 Allstar races this weekend in Upstate NY....was debating whether to go, now its pretty much settled. Last year he earned what I suspected was his last 410 victory at Lebanon Valley, who knows, he could get 3 more. Also the last ever race for Steve Kinser, glad I witnessed the historic nite




alum.427
July 26, 2017 at 05:56:45 AM
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revjimk, chewing on sole, dam nike makes a tuff sole to bite into. lol



Justatireguy
July 26, 2017 at 07:52:53 AM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on July 19 2017 at 04:17:48 PM

Pure speculation but maybe the 51 James McFadden drove for Willie Kahne and crew during the Cali WoO swing.



Yes Saldana is in the 51 willie kahne car



chathamracefan1
July 26, 2017 at 01:16:37 PM
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This message was edited on July 26, 2017 at 01:37:15 PM by chathamracefan1

95 as of today with Haud in the 17 & Cole Duncan in the 12N now entered.  




vande77
July 26, 2017 at 01:46:00 PM
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Posted By: chathamracefan1 on July 26 2017 at 01:16:37 PM

95 as of today with Haud in the 17 & Cole Duncan in the 12N now entered.  



94, Lasoski is listed twice (the 1M and the 33). 

That also includes (3) TBA teams that may or may not find a driver (I think 2 of the 3 will for sure, but you never know).



alum.427
July 26, 2017 at 08:32:29 PM
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Ford 97. Stop reading my posts or b4 you do ask my permission. 



dsc1600
July 26, 2017 at 10:25:17 PM
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So who is left? Of the 30 or so that were there Saturday, only Brazier and Hafertepe aren't on the entry list. 

Chad Trout was an early entrant not likely to attend, so we're at 93. 




chathamracefan1
July 27, 2017 at 07:46:28 AM
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Tony Stewart is not listed yet but seems likely given he ran a 410 there a couple weeks ago & has now entered the 360 Nationals.  Christopher Bell has a truck race in Michigan on Saturday at 1:00pm in Michigan.  Would seem he could get back on time for Saturday night barring any weather delays.  Don't know what his contractual arrangement is regarding running races the same day as a truck race though.  

I heard thru my limited grapevine that Joey Moughan from Springfield IL is going to run it but don't see him listed yet.  



BeersFriends&410s
July 27, 2017 at 09:12:31 AM
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Easy now. I am from PA and was not dropped on my head. Some of us have common sense! lol. 





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