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It's about time we stop looking at this car as such a good ride or opportunity.  Justin Henderson seems to be doing alright without it, Lucas Wolfe seems to be doing alright without it. Scott Winters seems like he chose like he would be alright without it.  Kevin Swindell seems to have chosen the INDY race parts ride over it.

The only reason this ride is perceived the way it is - Justin Henderson qualified for the A-Main at Knoxville in it, keep in mind this was on the non-qualifiers night that Knoxville put together that year that gave everyone a second chance.  Then he took a first year team half way through the season the next year and put it on the podium.

Seems like it's time for us to just realize this car is what it is, average with a fancy paint scheme and a logo we recognize.  The local Pepsi distribution company can sponsr a car too, doesn't mean that Pepsi Co has any clue it's going on.

If you dont like the way he runs his team then start your own team. Then you can beat him and his revolving door of drivers. 

And BTW, when did it become such a crime to give drivers a shot to prove they can run well in a well funded car?

Forest for the Trees.

considering the BWW sponsorship (not really) is just the car owners putting it on the car, e-mailing corporate won't do much good (and could actually do harm).

What happens if the franchisee agreement states that BWW corporate must sign off on all sponsorships greater than $XXX and they had no clue.  All of a sudden the car owners could have their franchises pulled and a car disappears.

Do I think what the BWW team is doing with drivers is ok?  No, but it's thier $$$, they can do what they want.  On the flip side of hte coin, I never hear anyone saying boycott buying driver XXX's t-shirts because he left car owner XX high and dry as he told them when he got to the track that he got offered a ride in the XX car and he's leaving them effective immediately.

I remember the days when drivers, crewmen, etc. would be fired at the end of the night  after the races were over and had to find a way home (and when the races are over, people are already bugging out).  Contracts are worthless to me, the drivers aren't any more loyal than the owners are.

What would you sue him for?

no matter how you slice it, that was a chicken shit move. like smokefan, i've been around this sport for 30 + years, and have seen crew chiefs sabotage a driver to get rid of him. it happened here in pa recently to a hall of famer. yea, i know, it ain't my money or my team and no, i'm not gonna fork over the money to buy or start a team, but i don't see how anyone can defend that clown. some of you people need to grow a set.

That is what I thought.

I wonder at what point driver's will simply decline to work with them. 

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This thread should be shut down. The nerve of some fans is ridiciulous, the 82 car is pumping money into the sprint car economy and you guys bitch!  What's stopping any of you clowns from putting these drivers in a car. ? 

yes by all means...fans need to STFU...the jack@sses have spoken...this is not a spectator sport.

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

agree totally.

What's next, throwing a hissy fit to FVP or STP because the Outlaws go to a racetrack you dislike?? 

It does the sport ZERO good for fans to go complaining directly to sponsors.  It leaves a bad taste in their mouth and I'm sure others thinking about spending $$$ in sprint car racing ask those that already are about it.

3 sides to every story; Side 1, Side 2, and somewhere in between; the TRUTH.

To the BWW #82 owner and management:

I love Buffalo Wild Wings.  I live in Iowa.  I have a mediocre racing career in karts and IMCA stuff.     I just want my shot at the BWW #82.  Everybody else has had their shot.  I don't care if you fire me and leave me in the middle of nowhere.  That's business.     We'll have a blast, I promise  

Ben T

"If you're gonna run the bottom, you might as well get 
a real job."

Bingo!  Once quality drivers stop taking this ride, then the ride becomes irrelevant.  Until then, the owner can do as he wishes and will suffer no consequence. 

It's happened for decades.  Firing a driver and leaving them at the track has happened for as long as I can remember, the things we didn't have back then were cellphones though.  Being stranded in 2014 is way different than being stranded in 1970, 1980 or even 1990.

Not sure what Roger's side of hte story is (he hasn't publicly stated it), if he  indeed was fired WHEN THEY GOT TO THE TRACK, he had opportunity to land another ride in the pit area, or make arrrangements to ride with someone to the next track or possibly to the airport.  And I have no doubt he had a cell phone and could call a cab to pick him up and take him to Minneapolis or wherever was closest.

If they waited until the races were over, everyone else had left and they handed him his seat and said "see ya", that's totally different.

Is it the way I would do business?  No, but it's not my business, it's theirs.

If the shoes were reversed and they arrived at the track and Roger said: "Take my seat out, I just got an offer to drive the TSR car for a couple nights", no one would say anything about him leaving them in limbo.

I'm sure the "truth" lies somewhere between what the BWW team is saying and what Roger is saying privately.  Being a racecar driver has never been a "solid gig".  Very few have stability.

What is your leverage when writing? What will be gained by Corporate if the for-profit entity reads your E-mail? Are your intentions to cause fiscal harm to a franchisee in the Northwest as the result of actions of a franchisee in another part of the country.  I concur wth those who feel your endeavours are futile for the long term benefit of racing and are not going to result in any driver being reinstated. Your attempts to enlist others in your campaign may ease the animosity you hold toward the independent franchisee, but your personal vendetta will, in all likelihood, be to the overall detriment of the sport.

Sam Hafertepe drove it last night.  He was running good then spun out toward the end of the feature.  I guess that's the crew and/or owners fault.

Dear Buffalo Wild Wings

It's obvious that not having hot dogs on your menu has upset Deano.  That, or your wings are too expensive (in his eyes).  Afterall, it's just chicken, right?  Please give some thought to marketing a chicken based hot dog and placing them on your kiddie menu so they are priced accordingly in Deanos eyes.  Thanks

The greatest knowledge is to know that you know nothing
at all.

Sucks for Roger.  Pretty sure he'll continue to race and win races though.

The sport could lose every fan who is upset with that one team and still not suffer near the effect of losing a funded car because someone who has never spent a dime of his own money decides to try and play politics with someone elses business.

You're an idiot Deano.

The greatest knowledge is to know that you know nothing
at all.

It's already happening after what went down with Crockett. 

BIG J

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."