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Moon's record speaks for itself and he's a proven winner so I don't know if I'd go as far as to blame him. Anthony has been fast all season but he's time and again found trouble and has spent a lot of time hooked to a tow truck. A lot of the wrecks have come when he was running up front well in contention. Some of it was mistakes he made, much of it was mistakes others made that he got caught in but for whatever reason, he's looking like a force to be reckoned with the past few weeks. He seems like a good kid. I'm happy for him.

Just kidding fix. Moon has a strong resume’ having wrenched for some of the best.

I always made the joke that Moon made Rahmer and Rahmer made moon. Truth is, Moon kicked some ass with Stevie Smith when he was in the Hamilton 77 on the WoO tour and Rahmer was already a dominant force in the Lawrence 99 and the Apple 12 before they got together but man, it's hard to find anyone more dominant than they were from the mid 90's through the early 2000's when they were with Al. 12 straight wins at Lincoln in 1998. Most drivers consider 12 wins overall a great season. They won 12 in a row at just one track against tough weekly competition and he started 12th at all the regular shows. There was a WoO win during that streak in which he started 6th and flat out embarrassed them. I believe they finished with 33 total wins that season. Those 2 together were magic. Only fitting that they got back together and did what they did during Fred's retirement year. Fred winning the National Open is still my favorite race I've ever attended. It was surreal sitting there in person watching the laps click away knowing that this kind of thing usually only happens in movies yet it's actually happening for real.

Lance strikes me as anything but BUT "arrogant & smug"... he's always seemed pretty humble to me

If you want somebody else to win, fine, but you don't have to make up BS personal attacks

I always made the joke that Moon made Rahmer and Rahmer made moon. Truth is, Moon kicked some ass with Stevie Smith when he was in the Hamilton 77 on the WoO tour and Rahmer was already a dominant force in the Lawrence 99 and the Apple 12 before they got together but man, it's hard to find anyone more dominant than they were from the mid 90's through the early 2000's when they were with Al. 12 straight wins at Lincoln in 1998. Most drivers consider 12 wins overall a great season. They won 12 in a row at just one track against tough weekly competition and he started 12th at all the regular shows. There was a WoO win during that streak in which he started 6th and flat out embarrassed them. I believe they finished with 33 total wins that season. Those 2 together were magic. Only fitting that they got back together and did what they did during Fred's retirement year. Fred winning the National Open is still my favorite race I've ever attended. It was surreal sitting there in person watching the laps click away knowing that this kind of thing usually only happens in movies yet it's actually happening for real.

I agree that thanking fans is a necessity all driver recognize and do most of the time. However, like a politician you can tell when it is sincere or not. I've only seen a few interviews with him and he always seems to be kind and genuinely thankful and I cant say for sure but I dint think he has ever chopped at another driver in the few I have heard.

Ya, if you dont like him you should probably not feel the need to tell us about it.

And not to derail the thread, but the talk about sprint car attendance dropping...

Willamette and tuscarora set records this past week. Kville was sold out and , was Eldora sold out also.  I know they are special shows and weekly attendance may be dropping so maybe promoters need to follow the trend.

That was my point. People will come out to see the special sanctions or big shows. Maybe promoters needs to accept that and adjust their business plan.

" Fred winning the National Open is still my favorite race I've ever attended. "..... I REALLY wish i could have seen that, was living in Colorado at the time

I loved the victory interview: "Everybody thought I was a washed up bum" (or something like that).... pure Cliff Claven (who he looks like )

It really was special. I'll never forget how loud the crowd was he emerged from the scales onto the backstretch. There's a video on YouTube that someone took from the infield that really captured the essence of the moment. I grew up listening to Fred get booed....especially during his tenure in the 77. On this night, it was much different. Almost everyone there cheered loudly for him. Love him or hate him, he was a champion and that night brought the curtain down on the Rahmer era which no one can dispute, was an era of dominance that was unrivaled in our history rich area. I remember earlier in the night seeing 2 people in the infield wearing homemade "Rahmer hating tour 2013" shirts. I felt bad for those people that night. Talk about eating crow for everyone to see.

I think we are missing something important here though.  The special shows rely on the locals to fill the majority of the field (at least in PA) and without the weekly shows you don't have the guys that come out during the special shows and give the sanctioned guys a run for it.  It works both ways IMO.  

Words of a true race fan right there.

Here’s a test for ya Holden - remember the low, low budget 2D holding off the big dogs at the Grove on a spring Sunday afternoon way back when, until Keith Kaufman caught up to him? I knew that kid a great future that day.

What year was that? 1984 - 1985?

I'm thinking more like 87 or 88? That 2D was a shoestring budget car for sure. Sometimes it looked like it was held together with duct tape but it was pretty fast. I remember the 1st time I saw that car at Selinsgrove. Port had cancelled due to rain and back then a lot of cars would immediately head to the other track if 1 was rained out. As the Port cars starting coming through the gate, we kind of chuckled at this junky looking car on an open trailer. I believe he ran 2nd that night against a strong field.

It really was special. I'll never forget how loud the crowd was he emerged from the scales onto the backstretch. There's a video on YouTube that someone took from the infield that really captured the essence of the moment. I grew up listening to Fred get booed....especially during his tenure in the 77. On this night, it was much different. Almost everyone there cheered loudly for him. Love him or hate him, he was a champion and that night brought the curtain down on the Rahmer era which no one can dispute, was an era of dominance that was unrivaled in our history rich area. I remember earlier in the night seeing 2 people in the infield wearing homemade "Rahmer hating tour 2013" shirts. I felt bad for those people that night. Talk about eating crow for everyone to see.

I haven't been watching as long as you (only since 2010), but several yrs. ago I was at Port Royal for Speedweek & Fred crashed early in the race & lots of people cheered. From that moment on I was a Fast Freddy fan. I got the video of him beating Outlaws from last place many years ago, but unfortunately cameraman didn't show him fighting thru the pack, just focused on him when he got close....

I remember that night well. I was on 2nd shift and they had a lengthy rain delay. I got off work and busted ass down the highway. I parked on the backstretch and walked in just as the dash was lining up. Donny had a huge crash that happened literally right in front of me. I feared the worst but luckily he was ok. I think Lance got hurt but I don't think it was anything serious. Fred definitely put to rest the whole "can't pass on a heavy track" myth because be did just that. He had some help from others having trouble but he still passed A LOT of cars after using a provisional and they were all fast cars. There are no slow cars in a WoO field at Williams Grove. It was one of the most amazing performances I've ever witnessed. 

Just one more thing for me to envy....

I think i might move to Pa. some day.....