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robertaItman
December 30, 2018 at 11:56:19 AM
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Posted By: everhard on December 30 2018 at 01:06:00 AM

Atleast the track might reopen.  Who cares who owns it or who is going to buy it. 



Let's say they decide to run on Saturdays, are you and/or others going to accept that because the alternative is no track at all?

What if the Rubin sale falls through but another buyer sneaks in and happens to be a person even worse than Chuck...will people continue to be happy because the track exists or will they suddenly bash the new owner(s) because they don't aggree with the way they are running their track?

 

What if the Rubin sale is a success but all the issues that people had towards the end of Husets v1.0 still exist with Husets v2.0?  Will people still bitch?  

 

Hell, what if Chuck has a change of heart and decides to keep the track and re-open it under his ownership?  

 

Considering the alternative, if the track remains operational, no one should have any reason to complain ever again, regardless of the owner, the night they chose to run, the cost of nachos, etc, etc.  Unfortunately, I bet that won't be the case.  People will still complain... And therein lies the problem

 



newbeevur
December 30, 2018 at 12:18:26 PM
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A kind of History on Hartford, it opened in 1976 it WAS a half mile at that time and DID run on Sunday nights against Huset's. Several long time Sioux Falls area racers were upset about Husets staying with the 100 inch super modifieds as long as they did and opened their own track that ran sprints and late models on Sundays. By the late 1970's the place had WoO show, USAC midgets and was doing reasonably well and from what I heard at the time had Huset's about on its death bed. Then Dawley and Larsen their 2 big local drawing cards were killed in the same wreck at Knoxville and things rapidly went downhill. I think it had a couple sprint specials in 1981 and closed for a few years. Then former Huset's promoter Bill Leesch bought it, downsized it to 3/8's and ran 410's, 360's and street stocks on Fridays in about 1987. That went for a few years and then it changed to Saturdays with 360's as the headline class around 1990. At that time they were competing with Jackson and Madison SD just about 23ish miles away for 360's on Saturdays. They did run a few Saturday night 410 specials in the 1990's getting locals like Gary Dewall, Chad Mellenberndt and a few others. Went thru several ownership groups and ran on Saturdays and dropped the 360's I believe after 2014 season and ran 305's weekly in 2015 drawing about 4 of them. Of all of Chuck Brennan's management boners and money wasters to me the biggest was paying Hartford's owner to not run Saturdays in 2016 he should have let that place run against him and die a rapid death on its own with 20 people in the stands.

For 2019 Hartford WILL RUN SATURDAYS, 305's as the top weekly class with late model and 360 specials.

for 2019 Huset's WILL RUN SUNDAYS still waiting on details on what classes.

Any info on Huset's getting a WoO show? Johnny G what have you heard?



Nick14
December 30, 2018 at 12:27:24 PM
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Posted By: robertaItman on December 30 2018 at 11:56:19 AM

Let's say they decide to run on Saturdays, are you and/or others going to accept that because the alternative is no track at all?

What if the Rubin sale falls through but another buyer sneaks in and happens to be a person even worse than Chuck...will people continue to be happy because the track exists or will they suddenly bash the new owner(s) because they don't aggree with the way they are running their track?

 

What if the Rubin sale is a success but all the issues that people had towards the end of Husets v1.0 still exist with Husets v2.0?  Will people still bitch?  

 

Hell, what if Chuck has a change of heart and decides to keep the track and re-open it under his ownership?  

 

Considering the alternative, if the track remains operational, no one should have any reason to complain ever again, regardless of the owner, the night they chose to run, the cost of nachos, etc, etc.  Unfortunately, I bet that won't be the case.  People will still complain... And therein lies the problem

 



From what noticed in the past, no one was complaining that Chuck was running on Saturday. It was more of how he went about it and his tactics. Namely the finger pointing and bashing of the NSL at the time because of a disagreement and from what I remember, that is what led to the whole Knoxville issue. You add in the tweeting of car counts versus Knoxville and the condescending way they were written, just makes for a bad image.

While yes, 1 or 2 people may have gone overboard with their criticism of Chuck, that doesn't mean that people have to be quiet and just be happy they have a track. There is a responsibility on the owner and customers can hold him accountable for his actions. People have been stating their opinions about promoters since the first racetrack was built. The difference today is that all of us can see each other's opinion. Some people like to think this is new, but it's not, we not have a platform to state opinions now.

As for the track, the release said no more offers will be considered, and if this deal falls through the track will be demolished



RHC
December 30, 2018 at 01:10:16 PM
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Posted By: newbeevur on December 30 2018 at 12:18:26 PM

A kind of History on Hartford, it opened in 1976 it WAS a half mile at that time and DID run on Sunday nights against Huset's. Several long time Sioux Falls area racers were upset about Husets staying with the 100 inch super modifieds as long as they did and opened their own track that ran sprints and late models on Sundays. By the late 1970's the place had WoO show, USAC midgets and was doing reasonably well and from what I heard at the time had Huset's about on its death bed. Then Dawley and Larsen their 2 big local drawing cards were killed in the same wreck at Knoxville and things rapidly went downhill. I think it had a couple sprint specials in 1981 and closed for a few years. Then former Huset's promoter Bill Leesch bought it, downsized it to 3/8's and ran 410's, 360's and street stocks on Fridays in about 1987. That went for a few years and then it changed to Saturdays with 360's as the headline class around 1990. At that time they were competing with Jackson and Madison SD just about 23ish miles away for 360's on Saturdays. They did run a few Saturday night 410 specials in the 1990's getting locals like Gary Dewall, Chad Mellenberndt and a few others. Went thru several ownership groups and ran on Saturdays and dropped the 360's I believe after 2014 season and ran 305's weekly in 2015 drawing about 4 of them. Of all of Chuck Brennan's management boners and money wasters to me the biggest was paying Hartford's owner to not run Saturdays in 2016 he should have let that place run against him and die a rapid death on its own with 20 people in the stands.

For 2019 Hartford WILL RUN SATURDAYS, 305's as the top weekly class with late model and 360 specials.

for 2019 Huset's WILL RUN SUNDAYS still waiting on details on what classes.

Any info on Huset's getting a WoO show? Johnny G what have you heard?



At Hartford, 305 CI Sprint cars & Late model street stocks won't bring in more fans than what they had in 2015. They need 360's there on a weekly basis, & some touring specials (ASCS, All Stars) to make a profit.

If Husets runs, it wouldn't surprise me that the 410's will be back, most weeks if not weekly.  Even if there is only 10 - 12 cars in that class.

World of Outlaws @ Husets in 2019.  The outlaws will find a date to bring them in whether it's after the week after the Jackson Nationals, or the week after the Knoxville Nationals before heading to North Dakota.

 



Murphy
December 30, 2018 at 03:16:04 PM
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Posted By: robertaItman on December 30 2018 at 11:56:19 AM

Let's say they decide to run on Saturdays, are you and/or others going to accept that because the alternative is no track at all?

What if the Rubin sale falls through but another buyer sneaks in and happens to be a person even worse than Chuck...will people continue to be happy because the track exists or will they suddenly bash the new owner(s) because they don't aggree with the way they are running their track?

 

What if the Rubin sale is a success but all the issues that people had towards the end of Husets v1.0 still exist with Husets v2.0?  Will people still bitch?  

 

Hell, what if Chuck has a change of heart and decides to keep the track and re-open it under his ownership?  

 

Considering the alternative, if the track remains operational, no one should have any reason to complain ever again, regardless of the owner, the night they chose to run, the cost of nachos, etc, etc.  Unfortunately, I bet that won't be the case.  People will still complain... And therein lies the problem

 



What if the sky falls down and all the trees be broken?

To answer your concerns in order:

Anyone smart enough to buy it is already smart enough to know that Saturday night probably isn't the answer.

Who is going to 'sneak in' and buy the track? So far, no one has shown interest in the track at anything close to a fraction of the asking price, so someone sneaking in would really be only a dream at this point. And let's face it, a dream buyer should be someone better than Chuck anyway. wink

One of the major issues under the Rubins' ownership was that the facilities were showing their age. That problem has been pretty well taken care of.

What if Chuck turns into a leprechuan and gives everybody a pot of gold and some Lucky Charms? Just about as likely. Or, to quote Wayne from Wayne's World, "yeah- and monkeys might fly out of my butt too!".

I don't think anyone anywhere want to give up the right to have an express their opinions be they good or bad.

I see this current chapter of the dramaqueen olympics as being the start of the issue actually moving towards a satisfactory resolution. 



Sonicman1
January 18, 2019 at 10:59:26 AM
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Little info I just came across. Rubin's are still looking for money. They contacted State of SD and was denied. That tells me this deal is no where near done....yet.  If it fell through, I would not be at all surprised.  But I am 100% rooting for it to go through and work. 



Jack Black
January 18, 2019 at 01:41:20 PM
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never had much faith in the deal. why would Rubins sell for 1.4 mil and buy back for 3 or 4 times as much.  



RodinCanada
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January 18, 2019 at 01:55:27 PM
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I dont have much money to invest and would probably lose a lot if I tried but to answer your question I think it makes a lot of sense,or at least could in a certain situation. Perhaps the Rubins only needed a few years away from the track to relax and not stare at the improvements required everyday. After a time away paying a million or 2 more for the track with more than that spent on improvements looks like a fire sale. Also maybe he isn't funding it all himself. Maybe he still has 1.1M in the bank and is back promoting at a better track with less personal finances in it and more or less collecting a paycheck at a better track than he worked for before not collecting a paycheck unless the season went well.

Just a scenario that looks good in my eyes. But all those details could be false.



blazer00
January 18, 2019 at 11:13:14 PM
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Gotta see it to believe it. I have it from a pretty good source that Husets/Badlands is not yet a done deal and might not happen at all. I hope whatever it is that may be holding it up is overcome and sprint car racing does return to Husets/Badlands.



ginelmore
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January 20, 2019 at 04:34:59 PM
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This message was edited on January 20, 2019 at 04:38:01 PM by ginelmore

Just to backup blazer00    I also have it from a very good source that no money has been secured from investors for Husets Speedway I'm in the same boat like everyone else I hope works out but I'm not holding my breath     Glen Murra



oswald
January 20, 2019 at 05:04:57 PM
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I can't see why anyone would invest in this deal. Don't see how any investor can possibly get their money back. $6.3 million for a dirt track with 9000 seats and a relatively short racing season? Plus concerts, etc? I don't have the money to invest but it does not look like a good idea to me IF you hope to get your money back.

What has happened with this racetrack makes me sick, and I hope some smart, wealthy folks can save the place.



RodinCanada
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January 20, 2019 at 06:21:42 PM
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I agree with you that it is a bad financial deal to turn a profit. That being said a smart rich person won't buy it,but a generous one looking to donate to the sport might. 



3togo
January 20, 2019 at 09:39:21 PM
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Reliable sources!!!



from a sponsor
January 20, 2019 at 10:08:41 PM
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Posted By: 3togo on January 20 2019 at 09:39:21 PM

Reliable sources!!!



Are you doubting the word of their sisters neighbors dog groomer???



Murphy
January 21, 2019 at 08:59:05 AM
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Posted By: oswald on January 20 2019 at 05:04:57 PM

I can't see why anyone would invest in this deal. Don't see how any investor can possibly get their money back. $6.3 million for a dirt track with 9000 seats and a relatively short racing season? Plus concerts, etc? I don't have the money to invest but it does not look like a good idea to me IF you hope to get your money back.

What has happened with this racetrack makes me sick, and I hope some smart, wealthy folks can save the place.



      Why would anybody offer more than the $3.1 milllion (or whatever that number was) reserve bid that was at the  auction?

     I know nothing of what's going on- just like everyon else. I keep hearing rumors that all sound like this:

Rubins is trying to put together a financing package with ________________, ___________________, and ___________________, three wealthy, well known local businessmen and ________________________, a current/former racer and/or team owner. The names seem to change on a daily basis.



DJW
January 21, 2019 at 11:14:15 AM
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Have they established a date for Cheaters Day? 



ginelmore
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January 21, 2019 at 12:12:03 PM
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Posted By: 3togo on January 20 2019 at 09:39:21 PM

Reliable sources!!!



Mr Holden Mcgroin



ginelmore
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January 21, 2019 at 12:20:37 PM
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Or was it Mr Jack Mehoff take your pick 3togo      Gm



Neisteadt
January 24, 2019 at 11:57:45 AM
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Posted By: Sonicman1 on January 18 2019 at 10:59:26 AM

Little info I just came across. Rubin's are still looking for money. They contacted State of SD and was denied. That tells me this deal is no where near done....yet.  If it fell through, I would not be at all surprised.  But I am 100% rooting for it to go through and work. 



Zero truth about contacting the state for funding. 



3togo
January 29, 2019 at 07:28:51 PM
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Posted By: Neisteadt on January 24 2019 at 11:57:45 AM

Zero truth about contacting the state for funding. 



Day 30 tommrow and no new news, however I have very unreliable sources!





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